Debate: Bring back which track?

Phil Hill, Ford GT, NurburgringThe European Grand Prix is at the Nurburgring this weekend. Sadly not the classic, fearsome Nurburgring Nordschleife – surely top of any F1 fan’s list of tracks they’d like to see return to the F1 calendar.

It got me thinking at which old tracks should be put back on the calendar – ignoring the cost and difficulty of making them safe enough (which, for the Nordschleife, would be gigantic).

Here’s a few of my picks:

Long Beach – A stunning street circuit, especially in its original form with dauntingly steep changes in gradient.

Pescara – A flowing road course through the Italian countryside.

Clermont-Ferrand – A tortuously sinuous course that hosted the French Grand Prix.

Buenos Aires No. 15 – The longer version of the Buenos Aires circuit with two gigantic straights and a series of massively fast corners plus a tight infield.

Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez – In the heart of Mexico City, with a long straight, a slowing series of fast corners, and the terrifying 180-degree Peraltada.

So what track would you pick? There’s just one condition – it can’t be the Nurburgring. That’s a given.

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29 comments on Debate: Bring back which track?

  1. Journeyer said on 16th July 2007, 10:33

    Hmmm. My top 5 would be Suzuka, Zandvoort, Brands Hatch, Estoril, old Kyalami. :)

    But hey, Suzuka might be back by next year! If it does, it will allow Donington Park to move into my Top 5.

  2. Robert McKay said on 16th July 2007, 10:36

    Heck, I’d settle for getting the “old”, i.e. pre-2002, Hockenheim back with it’s massively long straights and then the twisty stadium section done with minimal downforce. Plenty of slipstreaming there! The new Tilke version is a bit Mickey Mouse.

  3. Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 16th July 2007, 11:08

    Ah they made a mess of Estoril though – they put that horrible chicane in below Parabolica and they tightened the first corner as well after F1 left.

  4. Nathan Jones said on 16th July 2007, 11:44

    suzuka (prob back next yr and i hope so) zandvoort, brands hatch, old kyalami, the ostereichring, old hockenheim, long beach in it’s original form

  5. Sigmund said on 16th July 2007, 11:50

    I would like to see:

    Österreichring (the old, fast version)
    Anderstorp (close to my home)
    Long Beach (great street circuit)
    Le Mans (Grand Prix-racings birthplace)
    Kyalami (F1 would be a true world championship)
    Suzuka (If Fuji Speedway is anyway near as boring as in Gran Turismo 4, F1 should leave as soon as possible!)

    Also, Spa in the form it takes in Frankenheimer’s Grand Prix-movie is absolutely fantastic, though the current track isn’t too bad either.)

  6. AndyJ said on 16th July 2007, 13:01

    I agree with the others, old Hockenheim. Talking of oldie, how about old Silverstone? The current track is good (although, this years race wasnt great), but the old one was just mad!

  7. Now Spa is back it would have to be Suzuka for me.

  8. Tommy B said on 16th July 2007, 14:00

    Old Hockenheim!!!!!!!! :(

  9. Now that we seem to have lost Indianapolis, my thoughts turn inevitable to Long Beach. It was a brilliant street circuit, always producing good races and as spectacular as they come. Fat chance, I suppose, as long as Bernie continues to demand such outrageous prices for a GP.

    Kyalami is a great idea. In fact, I agree with all of the suggestions but would add one teaser. How about investigating Pau as a GP venue? It’s tight and narrow, yes, but no worse than Monaco and what a fabulous backdrop it provides! Would solve the problem of a French GP too…

  10. Suzuka, really hope they they bring it back

  11. Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 16th July 2007, 18:45

    I don’t know if the long loop from the Buenos Aires track still exists. It was famous in its time for being built on reclaimed marshland which stank in the broiling heat.

    I don’t think you’d get the Beckhams visiting…

  12. Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 16th July 2007, 23:31

    Cool I’ll have to have a look for some footage of that. Glad they didn’t get rid of it when they created the shorter F1 track.

    Don’t worry I’m not in the least bit interested in where the Beckhams go!

    Did you ever see F1 racing at the track?

  13. I’d love to see Argentina return simply because I think it’s unfair that there aren’t more races in South America.

    Is the objective to bring in both Suzuka and Fuji? While everybody knows Suzuka is more challenging, Fuji… has some meaning to me. ;)

    To the one that suggested Pau, I raise you Macau. Perhaps it would be deadly in an F1 car, but isn’t that the charm?

    I had to look up the classic Long Beach run. A hybrid of the current path and the classic one may make it interesting, but F1 on the circuit ChampCar runs on would suck. My evidence of this was the ALMS race.

    Donnington Park looks like it has been modernized enough for F1. Brand’s Hatch (to me) does not, so I’d much rather see Donnington get F1, especially if there won’t be Silverstone, or perhaps that venue-switching arrangement that Germany has could work it in…

    How about a venue-switching arrangement for the USA?…

  14. Mark said on 17th July 2007, 3:45

    I would love to see the French Grand Prix at Paul Ricard again, provided they allowed fans to come in (please Bernie not just for VIPs!)

  15. To Mr Chunter: I’ll see your Macau, definitely! We could have both tracks and then there’d be three Monacos every year – that’d give the moaners about no overtaking something to get their teeth into. :D

    As regards Long Beach, it would have to be the classic course. Without all those dips and humps, it wouldn’t be the same. But better than venue-switching would be two or even three races in the States. How about the Glen in the East, the Beach in the West and let Bernie have one somewhere in the middle?

    And as for Ricard, yes, I agree, as long as it can be the old track with the mile-long straight…

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