Stop throwing all that garbage at us. I hope someone paid to to so, the alternative doesn’t leave you a decent position. I cannot even start figuring out what drives you to say things like:

False and racist statement:
He is not very fluent in english, but that is a cultural thing, spanish people don’t like english/america very much, they are very conservative about stuff like that, and their accent is more like reading english in spanish, not giving it the proper accent. For example, he calls Lewis “Luis”, the spanish more similar sound. I really hate that, bollocks if you ask me.

You’re lying again, can you point JUST A SINGLE link to any of the Spanish media?
What is NOT good is rubbing your victory on the rest of the field, you know, comments like “My only regret is that we didn’t beat Ferrari by more time” and “I’m very happy this things happen to my teammate and specially in england”… Alonso has said a lot of this kind of stuff, particularly on spanish tv and radio.

Again, I dont know what you get from your intoxication, but I cannot understand those biased comments.

Cheers

I’m sick of this Alonso is a whinger stuff. ANyone who’s been watching F1 for the last 15 years at least can tell you, Schumacher was a (probably the biggest) whinger… go back earlier, Prost was a Whinger, Senna was a Whinger, Mansell was a Whinger,Hakkinen was a Whinger, Villeneuve was a Whinger, only champion in recent times that was the least whinging was HILL!!!,,

In F1 these days, the award for biggest Whinger is Scott Speed, remember the Radio Transmission aired (Speed and his engineer) just before the formation lap at the Montreal Grand Prix!!!!

some very good points above, and some not so, but I won’t elaborate, there’s no point, because we’re all F1 fanatics (.co.uk) and we need to agree to disagree

I miss Schumi, I like Massa as a package, probably Kimi even more, and I think Ron’s children are supreme drivers but have annoying personalities outside the car with arrogance (disguised in Lewis, hanging out there in Alonso) a common theme – and I’m a Ferrari fan, but honestly this has nothing to do with it

anyway, I don’t REALLY mind any of that since they can look as stupid as they want outside the cockpit, I just enjoy watching 4 drivers with 4 brilliantly different styles banging wheels out on track (and then fighting about it )

So, you see, in F1 is not as easy as “they both know what happened there”. Massa surely does. Fernando doesn’t. He only asumes Massa hit him intentionally.

Everyone is complaining about Alphonso’s attitude because we want quality champions, in every sense of the word. We don’t want crybabies who rub their victories over the face of their competitors.

Do you see Lewis complaining that Alonso is getting the better car everytime he loses? No.
Do you see Alonso complaining that Lewis is getting the better car everytime he loese? Yes.

About telemetry thing, I dont think they need it, they both know what happened there and both have no doubts about it, which I think is the case in most incidents.

Nobody want monkeys there, nobody wants boxers there, but I also do not want to see racers congratulating each other just to show that they are gentlemen, even if they feel different out there. It is F1, it is tension itself….

I think Massa was unhappy because he thought he deserved that race, and the tires did him in. That and the fact that he didn’t think Alonso was going to try to pass on the outside in the rain, especially on such crap wet tires.

This incident made me like both drivers more. I like the fire that Massa shows, maybe its a bit immature but at least we don’t question his drive to succeed. Alonso was amazing, he showed his poise all race and then made the pass when the door opened.

Personally I don’t see what the big deal is, they both finished didnt they? Rubbing is Racing.

So, I think yes, Kimi would said that too after an intentional indicent.

Besides, this is F1, you really can’t tell if it was intentional, not until you check the videos and read the telemetry. It might be unintentional, Massa could have just lost the car, I don’t know, I don’t have access to the telemetry. So Alonso is even wronger, he can’t tell if it was on purpose (at least in that moment).

We’re watching the very best drivers in the world, one would expect them to react like civilized people, not like monkeys. Rofl pushing the marshall? The thing with Speed and his pit crew? If you want to see fingers and punches, then switch to nascrap and champ car, there’s plenty of that there. I really think there’s no room for that behaviour off track in F1.

For the Nürburgring touch, helicopter camera video gives the best angle. You can see there two cars are side by side, Alonso a small distance forward than Massa. But a few meters before the touch, one of them approaches the otherside. Guess who?

On the tension before podium, I prefer Alonso telling Massa that it was intentional, than pretending to be the best friends out there which is not he case. These drivers-excluding a few of them-have huge egos, these kind of things are normal after stressful 2 hours, and I hope we see some more tension if it is to bring more fights on track

Kimi is absolutely calmer and reacts less than Alonso but I am not sure he would say “these things happen” if he thought he was hit intentionally?
Would he?

What is NOT good is rubbing your victory on the rest of the field, you know, comments like “My only regret is that we didn’t beat Ferrari by more time” and “I’m very happy this things happen to my teammate and specially in england”… Alonso has said a lot of this kind of stuff, particularly on spanish tv and radio.

You can win, you can celebrate, you can be one of the best drivers (btw, most pundits rate Kimi higher than Alonso, Alonso is not the greatest driver of this era, that would be Schumi) but there is really no need to be an utter sucker, arrogant little boy is it?

Now, considering all that, and the things we don’t see, is understandable that Massa send him to take a **** (literally, he didn’t use the F word, and Alonso also send him to do the same).

That is the real shame, the attitude Alphonso takes when he wins. And let’s not forget than when he’s not wining then “Lewis is getting a better car, the team is leaning towards him…” BOLLOCKS.

He’s a terrific driver, very agressive, I like the way he drives. But he has the brain of a 5 year old, a very spoiled one. I really like Lewis beatting the crap out of him. Oh yes, check the standings.

Kimi on the other hand, would have said something like “yes this things happen, he touched me, there’s no big deal, fortunately we both finished the race”.

An educated attitude.

Yeah, Alastair, it’s a shame Alonso isn’t as dull and listless as Raikkonen. Perhaps one day Fernando will learn that he has to act as he is at a funeral when he wins a race. Shame on him for showing emotion.

lol, true.

I enjoyed the little spat and finger wagging at the end. F1 really needs some of these characters.

I’m shocked at how everyone is so surprised over Alonso. It’s like none of you have ever been in a high pressure situation before!! He has a right to be a little annoyed or upset over the matter. Good for him for saying something to Massa. Let him know he won’t ignore his inane tactics anymore.

But there is more to an F1 driver than just his driving. His attitude also counts. He didn’t need to wag the finger at parc ferme, he didn’t need to blame Massa for what happened, he should’ve just been happy he won and congratulated Felipe on a good fight. Alonso shouldn’t have taken issue with the damage, it happens a lot in F1! Sheesh. Anyway, the apology was good, but not good enough in my opinion. Alonso didn’t ignore the f word, he continued to argue with Massa anyway, but did well to avoid saying the f word.

I’m with Felipe on this one, but he should be avoiding that f word.

Anyway, here’s a revised version of the dialogue I found from planet-f1.com

Alonso: You did it intentionally, as in Barcelona.
Massa: No, I did not.
Alonso: You broke my sidepod there – go and have a look at it!
Massa: Go f**k yourself!. You won and you say something like this.
Alonso: Mate, it can’t break itself.
Alonso: I have fought with Heidfeld, with everybody, what you did with three laps to go can’t be done.
Massa: He wins and says that. You must learn.
Alonso: It is you who has to learn. I have fought with everybody and with three laps to go, we touch!
Massa: (Sarcastic) Bravo.
Alonso: Bravo you!
Massa: You say that I did it on purpose, like I did that on purpose in Barcelona?. You were remained behind.
(As this point Ron Dennis steps in)
Dennis: Boys calm down.
Massa: Tell him to!