Comments on: Mixed reaction in press to McLaren’s punishment http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/ F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog with F1 news, pictures, video, comment and analysis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:43:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: milos http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-71506 milos Sat, 15 Sep 2007 05:00:43 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/#comment-71506 I would not say it is farce, but it definitely is an irony, that a guy who was deeply involved in all this can still end up being a world champion. but, that happens in other legal cases, and quite often. prosecutors often offer deals - immunity in exchange for information. but... McLaren can still sack him, right ? what I can't see is Mr.Alonso in McLaren next year, I can't even see Mr. de la Rosa in neither McLaren, or Prodrive (if it will be McLaren "B" team). Mr. Alonso should have no problems to get out of his contract now, if I were Dennis, I would have fired him yesterday the moment the FIA letter came out. unless ... well unless Dennis has known much about all the spy stuff more than he admits... I still did not fully digest the whole FIA explanation, but looks to me, the best next step for McLaren is to accept the punishment and go on I would not say it is farce, but it definitely is an irony, that a guy who was deeply involved in all this can still end up being a world champion. but, that happens in other legal cases, and quite often. prosecutors often offer deals – immunity in exchange for information. but… McLaren can still sack him, right ?

what I can’t see is Mr.Alonso in McLaren next year, I can’t even see Mr. de la Rosa in neither McLaren, or Prodrive (if it will be McLaren “B” team). Mr. Alonso should have no problems to get out of his contract now, if I were Dennis, I would have fired him yesterday the moment the FIA letter came out. unless … well unless Dennis has known much about all the spy stuff more than he admits…

I still did not fully digest the whole FIA explanation, but looks to me, the best next step for McLaren is to accept the punishment and go on

]]> By: Chris http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-71477 Chris Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:03:27 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/#comment-71477 It's a farse. After illicitly spying for months and collecting information to confer a dishonest and fraudolent sporting advantage upon McLaren......MCLaren has been just punished with a fine and banned from constructors cahmpionship and a McLaren can still win the drivers Championship - the only one which counts!! Congratulation Mr. Mosley and Mr. Eccleston. They tried to save McLaren avoiding the real punishment McLaren deserved but the victory of Alonso or Hamilton will have no sense and sporting value. It’s a farse.
After illicitly spying for months and collecting information to confer a dishonest and fraudolent sporting advantage upon McLaren……MCLaren has been just punished with a fine and banned from constructors cahmpionship and a McLaren can still win the drivers Championship – the only one which counts!! Congratulation Mr. Mosley and Mr. Eccleston. They tried to save McLaren avoiding the real punishment McLaren deserved but the victory of Alonso or Hamilton will have no sense and sporting value.

]]> By: simon http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-71318 simon Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:53:29 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/#comment-71318 I have been watching F1 for more than 35 years and it's never been any different “What Ferrari what, Ferrari get”. Max Mosley also has never been anything other that a Ferrari puppet for the 4 terms he has been head of the FIA. The FIA must be stupid to think that if a designer leaves team A , goes to team B and does not tell them what team A is up to. Just think if this was football can you imaging what the crowd would be shouting come the match on Saturday. Somehow I don't think people at this weekend GP will be shouting that the ref is a ****er, but it would be nice to hear. I have been watching F1 for more than 35 years and it’s never been any different “What Ferrari what, Ferrari get”. Max Mosley also has never been anything other that a Ferrari puppet for the 4 terms he has been head of the FIA. The FIA must be stupid to think that if a designer leaves team A , goes to team B and does not tell them what team A is up to.

Just think if this was football can you imaging what the crowd would be shouting come the match on Saturday. Somehow I don’t think people at this weekend GP will be shouting that the ref is a ****er, but it would be nice to hear.

]]> By: ade http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-71308 ade Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:33:45 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/#comment-71308 AndyJ - I meant that Alonso's McLaren seat would (supposedly) be taken by Button. AndyJ – I meant that Alonso’s McLaren seat would (supposedly) be taken by Button.

]]> By: AndyJ http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-71282 AndyJ Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:40:55 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/#comment-71282 An Englishman in a Ferrari! Yeh, that's always a marriage made in heaven...... An Englishman in a Ferrari! Yeh, that’s always a marriage made in heaven……

]]> By: ade http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-71279 ade Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:32:48 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/#comment-71279 Funny you should say that AndyJ - the most recent mailout from the PopBitch celeb gossip messageboard "reveals" that Alonso will jump ship to Renault next year and his seat will be taken by none other than Jenson Button(!) Funny you should say that AndyJ – the most recent mailout from the PopBitch celeb gossip messageboard “reveals” that Alonso will jump ship to Renault next year and his seat will be taken by none other than Jenson Button(!)

]]> By: AndyJ http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-71277 AndyJ Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:23:28 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/#comment-71277 With Alonso’s absence from yesterday’s farce and McLarens ‘conviction’, does this now give the Spaniard the green light to exit the team?? Wouldn’t be surprised to see him turn up at Ferrari at this rate. With Alonso’s absence from yesterday’s farce and McLarens ‘conviction’, does this now give the Spaniard the green light to exit the team?? Wouldn’t be surprised to see him turn up at Ferrari at this rate.

]]> By: bernie's nemesis http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-71263 bernie's nemesis Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:47:57 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/#comment-71263 Disgusting. Shame on you Max Moseley. It looks like the FIA have wanted to appease Ferrari (as always), but are terrified at loosing their audience in the most exciting season in a few years, and possible fairy tale ending, so have not punished the drivers. It appears, after the cars where examined, that no Ferrari secrets have been used. So why the Ferrari appeal. If they have disgruntled employees, thats something on their plate, not Mclarens. This is something that happens continually in F1, and the punishment does not fit the'crime'. Will everybody now ask for points to be taken from Ferrari for the illegal floor run in Australia. The most disturbing part of this is the way that Ferrari paint themselves whiter than white and believe themselves to be 50% of F1. Dirty cheats. Ron, keep on supporting your drivers, and letting them race each other, thats what racing fans want to see, not the choreography of prancing horses. Disgusting. Shame on you Max Moseley.

It looks like the FIA have wanted to appease Ferrari (as always), but are terrified at loosing their audience in the most exciting season in a few years, and possible fairy tale ending, so have not punished the drivers.

It appears, after the cars where examined, that no Ferrari secrets have been used. So why the Ferrari appeal. If they have disgruntled employees, thats something on their plate, not Mclarens.

This is something that happens continually in F1, and the punishment does not fit the’crime’.
Will everybody now ask for points to be taken from Ferrari for the illegal floor run in Australia.

The most disturbing part of this is the way that Ferrari paint themselves whiter than white and believe themselves to be 50% of F1. Dirty cheats.

Ron, keep on supporting your drivers, and letting them race each other, thats what racing fans want to see, not the choreography of prancing horses.

]]> By: Robert McKay http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-71255 Robert McKay Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:55:19 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/14/mixed-reaction-in-press-to-mclarens-punishment/#comment-71255 The "at least Our Lewis" is alright aspect of the press reporting in the most infuriating aspect of it all. The “at least Our Lewis” is alright aspect of the press reporting in the most infuriating aspect of it all.

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