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	<title>Comments on: Mosley wants standardised F1 cars</title>
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		<title>By: brian Morrell</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/24/mosley-wants-standardised-f1-cars/comment-page-2/#comment-87915</link>
		<dc:creator>brian Morrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taking into consideration all the comments above relating to Mad Max Mosley and the FIA, then turning to the FIA Presidents outragious personal attack on Jackie Stewart,which smacked of a typical fascist response, (probably inherited) it indicates that the man is not fit for purpose and in relation to the presidents eagernes to supply a minder for Alonso, in response to a request by yet another FIA closet, it suggests the whole FIA board should resign and seek re election, as not content with a personal attack on Stewart, they seem to be quiet happy to besmirch the good name of Mclaren with their actions, which clearly indicates and can have no other meaning than, Mclaren are not to be trusted. Why not retire the whole bunch of vindictive clowns and leave the rules and requirerments of racing to more enlightened and less politicaly motivated individuals. Whatever, &quot;il Ducky Mosley&quot; should resign, he has brought the FIA into disrepute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking into consideration all the comments above relating to Mad Max Mosley and the FIA, then turning to the FIA Presidents outragious personal attack on Jackie Stewart,which smacked of a typical fascist response, (probably inherited) it indicates that the man is not fit for purpose and in relation to the presidents eagernes to supply a minder for Alonso, in response to a request by yet another FIA closet, it suggests the whole FIA board should resign and seek re election, as not content with a personal attack on Stewart, they seem to be quiet happy to besmirch the good name of Mclaren with their actions, which clearly indicates and can have no other meaning than, Mclaren are not to be trusted. Why not retire the whole bunch of vindictive clowns and leave the rules and requirerments of racing to more enlightened and less politicaly motivated individuals. Whatever, &#8220;il Ducky Mosley&#8221; should resign, he has brought the FIA into disrepute.</p>
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		<title>By: Fan</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/24/mosley-wants-standardised-f1-cars/comment-page-2/#comment-86355</link>
		<dc:creator>Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Eric M.

The new name will be &quot;Formula Universe&quot; or FU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Eric M.</p>
<p>The new name will be &#8220;Formula Universe&#8221; or FU.</p>
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		<title>By: machine steve</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/24/mosley-wants-standardised-f1-cars/comment-page-2/#comment-86179</link>
		<dc:creator>machine steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; That is perhaps the most childish thing I&#039;ve ever read on an F1 forum, and that&#039;s saying something.

F1 is going to need to be green of die - simple.

To make F1 green simply limit the BHP of petrol combustion engines and delimit the BHP of alternative energy systems. A re-chargable F1 car with zero emissions and unlimited BHP up against a severly limited petrol engine and Ron Dennis will be wearing tie dye and sandals in a flash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; That is perhaps the most childish thing I&#8217;ve ever read on an F1 forum, and that&#8217;s saying something.</p>
<p>F1 is going to need to be green of die &#8211; simple.</p>
<p>To make F1 green simply limit the BHP of petrol combustion engines and delimit the BHP of alternative energy systems. A re-chargable F1 car with zero emissions and unlimited BHP up against a severly limited petrol engine and Ron Dennis will be wearing tie dye and sandals in a flash.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/24/mosley-wants-standardised-f1-cars/comment-page-2/#comment-81494</link>
		<dc:creator>Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Max&#039;s problem is that he has to have both a driver&#039;s championship and a manufacturer&#039;s championship in the same series.  It can&#039;t be done for one without being unfair to the other. If you want to find the best driver, you have to have the cars be all identical.  If you want to find the best manufacturer, you have to make the driver irrelevant.

As a techno-geek, I don&#039;t really care about drivers. We have pilotless airplanes killing terrorists in arabia, why not have driverless cars?  F1 manufacturing rules should be like FIA land speed rules, i.e. none!  Just go as fast as possible around the course for 90 minutes.  With the driver out of the car, there would be no need for all those cumbersome safety regulations, either.  To make things a little more competitive, I would require the telemetry to be open, with published protocols and error protection but no encryption allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max&#8217;s problem is that he has to have both a driver&#8217;s championship and a manufacturer&#8217;s championship in the same series.  It can&#8217;t be done for one without being unfair to the other. If you want to find the best driver, you have to have the cars be all identical.  If you want to find the best manufacturer, you have to make the driver irrelevant.</p>
<p>As a techno-geek, I don&#8217;t really care about drivers. We have pilotless airplanes killing terrorists in arabia, why not have driverless cars?  F1 manufacturing rules should be like FIA land speed rules, i.e. none!  Just go as fast as possible around the course for 90 minutes.  With the driver out of the car, there would be no need for all those cumbersome safety regulations, either.  To make things a little more competitive, I would require the telemetry to be open, with published protocols and error protection but no encryption allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/24/mosley-wants-standardised-f1-cars/comment-page-2/#comment-81352</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the RED team think it&#039;s agood idea then so wil Max. I imagine he has asked for their opinion already. Bernie probably does want it to be a bit more interesting so that his bank balance can continue to grow, through more &amp; more TV sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the RED team think it&#8217;s agood idea then so wil Max. I imagine he has asked for their opinion already. Bernie probably does want it to be a bit more interesting so that his bank balance can continue to grow, through more &amp; more TV sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Wesley</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/24/mosley-wants-standardised-f1-cars/comment-page-2/#comment-76237</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 21:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe all the cars in the parade can be RED and Schumacher can come back and lead them around the track-that should put a smile on Max AND Bernie&#039;s faces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe all the cars in the parade can be RED and Schumacher can come back and lead them around the track-that should put a smile on Max AND Bernie&#8217;s faces.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Andronov</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/24/mosley-wants-standardised-f1-cars/comment-page-2/#comment-75935</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Andronov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conspiricy theory alert.

But in the last few years Max has had trouble convincing the teams to cut costs. The main team which has been against him is McLaren who have often stated that they should be free to spend more money than others (including them refusing to put money into Paul Stoddard&#039;s fighting fund for small teams). Ferrari have been bad too, but McLaren have been a key thorn in Max&#039;s side over cost reduction.

Perhaps Max felt that it would be a good idea to make McLaren a hell of a lot poorer somehow and then push for his cost reductions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conspiricy theory alert.</p>
<p>But in the last few years Max has had trouble convincing the teams to cut costs. The main team which has been against him is McLaren who have often stated that they should be free to spend more money than others (including them refusing to put money into Paul Stoddard&#8217;s fighting fund for small teams). Ferrari have been bad too, but McLaren have been a key thorn in Max&#8217;s side over cost reduction.</p>
<p>Perhaps Max felt that it would be a good idea to make McLaren a hell of a lot poorer somehow and then push for his cost reductions?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/24/mosley-wants-standardised-f1-cars/comment-page-2/#comment-75728</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan: By resemblance I don&#039;t mean a physical one. What I mean is (a) something that the manufacturers can point to and say is a tangible benefit and (b) something an average person can relate to. If you sincerely believe F1 is doing well in terms of attendance and viewership, you are mistaken. If/when the manufacters start to balk at the costs... then the feces hits the impeller.

The races are boring. F1 is boring if one is not a tech-head/geek. The costs are high.
Whomever does not realize that this is a dangerous situation is does not live in the real world.

Max is a moron. However, the team bosses aren&#039;t acting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan: By resemblance I don&#8217;t mean a physical one. What I mean is (a) something that the manufacturers can point to and say is a tangible benefit and (b) something an average person can relate to. If you sincerely believe F1 is doing well in terms of attendance and viewership, you are mistaken. If/when the manufacters start to balk at the costs&#8230; then the feces hits the impeller.</p>
<p>The races are boring. F1 is boring if one is not a tech-head/geek. The costs are high.<br />
Whomever does not realize that this is a dangerous situation is does not live in the real world.</p>
<p>Max is a moron. However, the team bosses aren&#8217;t acting.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan M</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/24/mosley-wants-standardised-f1-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-75597</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clive, I have a friend who knows someone who knows someone that can make something happen to Max.

I take it by all this &#039;green talk&#039; that Max must drive a Prius (Toyota Hybrid, not sure what name is used in Europe)to work and heats his house using is own arrogance. If he wants to reduce the carbon footprint, why not just have a qually and no race, we already know the outcome.

I first started to watch F1 because technical side of it (I&#039;m a geek) and I love to read about the history and the drastic designs that have been attempted. I love to dig for every little bit of technical info about these cars. F1 seems to have taken a nose dive this year, and there is one man responsible. 

F1 is on life support, and Max is doing his best to pull the plug. 

Being such a long comment section:
(Sean)-3. F1 cars have no resemblance to road-going cars. (Not even the fuel is the same.)
Hence open wheel racing. Your obviously missing the point of F1, go watch ETCC if that is what you want.

(Haplo)This should be indeed about that, and Iâ€™m too sick of Max and his nonsense. He should be running NASCRAP.
Nascar wouldn&#039;t have him. Although you may not like that type of racing, it regulations are clear and consise. Not to mention that the general fan base is happy with its current direction. But in essence, Max wants F1 to be an open wheel NASCAR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clive, I have a friend who knows someone who knows someone that can make something happen to Max.</p>
<p>I take it by all this &#8216;green talk&#8217; that Max must drive a Prius (Toyota Hybrid, not sure what name is used in Europe)to work and heats his house using is own arrogance. If he wants to reduce the carbon footprint, why not just have a qually and no race, we already know the outcome.</p>
<p>I first started to watch F1 because technical side of it (I&#8217;m a geek) and I love to read about the history and the drastic designs that have been attempted. I love to dig for every little bit of technical info about these cars. F1 seems to have taken a nose dive this year, and there is one man responsible. </p>
<p>F1 is on life support, and Max is doing his best to pull the plug. </p>
<p>Being such a long comment section:<br />
(Sean)-3. F1 cars have no resemblance to road-going cars. (Not even the fuel is the same.)<br />
Hence open wheel racing. Your obviously missing the point of F1, go watch ETCC if that is what you want.</p>
<p>(Haplo)This should be indeed about that, and Iâ€™m too sick of Max and his nonsense. He should be running NASCRAP.<br />
Nascar wouldn&#8217;t have him. Although you may not like that type of racing, it regulations are clear and consise. Not to mention that the general fan base is happy with its current direction. But in essence, Max wants F1 to be an open wheel NASCAR.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/24/mosley-wants-standardised-f1-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-75565</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone! I&#039;ve been following this site a while ago, but i couldn&#039;t resist to do my first comment after reading Mosley comments... 

First of all i believe that F1 is not only about racing in the track but also racing off the track. Yes, we need to improve the first but also to keep the second, and with standardised cars we may lost the latter. Max Mosley turned the sport safe, that is true, but in this matter of reducing costs he is just destroying the spirit of the sport with all the decisions he took. We have Champ Cars, IRL, GP2, A1GP, Asian GP2 now, so why another standard cars championship if we already have the whole lot? If the manufacturers wanted to reduce costs, why did they bought team after team in the first place? I know that in the middle of this costs escalade we lost a few historic teams such as Lotus and Tyrrell, but it was him and Bernie who wanted to make this a manufacturer championship! And what&#039;s the problem if the F1 doesnt look like a road car? Doesn&#039;t that job belong to WTCC? I believe that F1 is a different business and making it look like another existent championship is madness. I do agree with Clive: He got to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone! I&#8217;ve been following this site a while ago, but i couldn&#8217;t resist to do my first comment after reading Mosley comments&#8230; </p>
<p>First of all i believe that F1 is not only about racing in the track but also racing off the track. Yes, we need to improve the first but also to keep the second, and with standardised cars we may lost the latter. Max Mosley turned the sport safe, that is true, but in this matter of reducing costs he is just destroying the spirit of the sport with all the decisions he took. We have Champ Cars, IRL, GP2, A1GP, Asian GP2 now, so why another standard cars championship if we already have the whole lot? If the manufacturers wanted to reduce costs, why did they bought team after team in the first place? I know that in the middle of this costs escalade we lost a few historic teams such as Lotus and Tyrrell, but it was him and Bernie who wanted to make this a manufacturer championship! And what&#8217;s the problem if the F1 doesnt look like a road car? Doesn&#8217;t that job belong to WTCC? I believe that F1 is a different business and making it look like another existent championship is madness. I do agree with Clive: He got to go.</p>
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