Comments on: The Ben Evans Column – DTM’s lesson for F1 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/28/the-ben-evans-column-dtms-lesson-for-f1/ F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog with F1 news, pictures, video, comment and analysis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:27:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Keith Collantine http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/28/the-ben-evans-column-dtms-lesson-for-f1/comment-page-1/#comment-77707 Keith Collantine Sun, 30 Sep 2007 03:46:17 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/28/the-ben-evans-column-dtms-lesson-for-f1/#comment-77707 Well it's a debatable point - that was what Audi thought was going on, I think that was an over-reaction on their part in the heat of the moment. The authorities punished two of Mercedes' drivers but, as is normal, that came after the race - after Audi had already pulled their cars out. Inexcusable behaviour by Audi in my book. http://www.maximummotorsport.co.uk/2007/09/23/audi-drags-dtm-into-fresh-controversy/ Well it’s a debatable point – that was what Audi thought was going on, I think that was an over-reaction on their part in the heat of the moment.

The authorities punished two of Mercedes’ drivers but, as is normal, that came after the race – after Audi had already pulled their cars out. Inexcusable behaviour by Audi in my book.

http://www.maximummotorsport.co.uk/2007/09/23/audi-drags-dtm-into-fresh-controversy/

]]> By: Jonov http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/28/the-ben-evans-column-dtms-lesson-for-f1/comment-page-1/#comment-77680 Jonov Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:42:04 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/28/the-ben-evans-column-dtms-lesson-for-f1/#comment-77680 I thought Audi pulled their cars because the Mercedes team(s) were bashing them off the track and the authorities did nothing about it. I thought Audi pulled their cars because the Mercedes team(s) were bashing them off the track and the authorities did nothing about it.

]]> By: patrick http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/28/the-ben-evans-column-dtms-lesson-for-f1/comment-page-1/#comment-77655 patrick Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:07:13 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/28/the-ben-evans-column-dtms-lesson-for-f1/#comment-77655 To be honest, the BTCC is actually my favourite touring car category at the moment. Sure, the cars aren't nearly powerful enough, and I've never much cared for reverse grids, but the racing is close, and there's perhaps 10 or 12 cars which are there-or-thereabouts in terms of pace. Good private teams seem able to compete for race wins (if not for the title) with the SEAT and Vauxhall factory teams. If they only had another 100BHP and rear wheel drive... To be honest, the BTCC is actually my favourite touring car category at the moment. Sure, the cars aren’t nearly powerful enough, and I’ve never much cared for reverse grids, but the racing is close, and there’s perhaps 10 or 12 cars which are there-or-thereabouts in terms of pace. Good private teams seem able to compete for race wins (if not for the title) with the SEAT and Vauxhall factory teams. If they only had another 100BHP and rear wheel drive…

]]> By: Robert McKay http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/28/the-ben-evans-column-dtms-lesson-for-f1/comment-page-1/#comment-77248 Robert McKay Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:51:10 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/09/28/the-ben-evans-column-dtms-lesson-for-f1/#comment-77248 Good points raised. I've always had it in the back of my mind that what happened to the BTCC (and DTM) will happen to F1 at some point. I reckon it is almost inevitable, honestly. Manufacturers are there to sell, and they sell by winning, and they can't all win. Ford already had enough in F1. And having all these satellite teams doesn't help. That's why F1 should be working hard to preserve the independent type teams, like Williams, who only exist to go racing. BTCC has, to an extent, recovered from it's crash. I remember the dying days of the Super Touring era, when there were three manufacturers with 3 cars each (only one or two of which ever actually won regularly). But they realised the budgets were no longer sustainable and redrew the regulations and eventually teams came back into it. The full works manufacturer teams never really did, but that's probably a good thing. It'll be cyclical: if there's lots of teams, lots of good racing, then probably the money will flow back into the series, thus the manufacturers will spend more to win and the cycle goes on... Good points raised. I’ve always had it in the back of my mind that what happened to the BTCC (and DTM) will happen to F1 at some point. I reckon it is almost inevitable, honestly. Manufacturers are there to sell, and they sell by winning, and they can’t all win. Ford already had enough in F1. And having all these satellite teams doesn’t help. That’s why F1 should be working hard to preserve the independent type teams, like Williams, who only exist to go racing.

BTCC has, to an extent, recovered from it’s crash. I remember the dying days of the Super Touring era, when there were three manufacturers with 3 cars each (only one or two of which ever actually won regularly). But they realised the budgets were no longer sustainable and redrew the regulations and eventually teams came back into it. The full works manufacturer teams never really did, but that’s probably a good thing. It’ll be cyclical: if there’s lots of teams, lots of good racing, then probably the money will flow back into the series, thus the manufacturers will spend more to win and the cycle goes on…

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