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	<title>Comments on: FIA suing Sunday Times over McLaren article</title>
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		<title>By: Euan Hogg</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/12/07/fia-suing-sunday-times-over-mclaren-article/comment-page-2/#comment-119901</link>
		<dc:creator>Euan Hogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately MM is in a position of absolute power ( there is a rejoinder there if anyone wants it).  Teams who wish to race in F1 have to sign up to an agreement that they will abide by the governing bodies rules and decisions. No where is it written that MM cannot be guilty of croneyism, bad judgement, favouritism, results fixing or megolomania.  Consider it part of the exciting world of F1.

I, like most who follow F1 in this country very much respect MBs contributions to F1 through his commentaries, both verbal and written.  What we should be asking is how can we help change the headlong dive F1 is taking at the leadership of MM.

Kind regards,

Euan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately MM is in a position of absolute power ( there is a rejoinder there if anyone wants it).  Teams who wish to race in F1 have to sign up to an agreement that they will abide by the governing bodies rules and decisions. No where is it written that MM cannot be guilty of croneyism, bad judgement, favouritism, results fixing or megolomania.  Consider it part of the exciting world of F1.</p>
<p>I, like most who follow F1 in this country very much respect MBs contributions to F1 through his commentaries, both verbal and written.  What we should be asking is how can we help change the headlong dive F1 is taking at the leadership of MM.</p>
<p>Kind regards,</p>
<p>Euan</p>
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		<title>By: MacademiaNut</title>
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		<dc:creator>MacademiaNut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 11:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does the F in FIA stand for Ferrari?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the F in FIA stand for Ferrari?</p>
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		<title>By: Nicola Jane Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/12/07/fia-suing-sunday-times-over-mclaren-article/comment-page-1/#comment-119428</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicola Jane Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im am now slightly concerned that a group i started on face book will get me into trouble - &quot;id like to receive technical information without penalty&quot; ????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im am now slightly concerned that a group i started on face book will get me into trouble &#8211; &#8220;id like to receive technical information without penalty&#8221; ????</p>
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		<title>By: Ted Kendell</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/12/07/fia-suing-sunday-times-over-mclaren-article/comment-page-1/#comment-119049</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted Kendell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting.  Brundle should sue the FIA.  Let&#039;s see what impact the FIA had on the driver&#039;s championship.
Australia, Ferrari driving an illegal car, but driver and manufacturer points remain.
Nurburing, Hamilton, although being laps down was turning same times as Massa and Alonso coming up behind, yet was given blue flags for both drivers, resulting in about a 10 second loss.  Loss of point finish..just under 10 seconds.
Alonso and Hamilton having an internal tiff in the pits, FIA steps in a penalizes Alonso, thus most probably deriving him of points.
Ferrari wins the driver championship.
Mclaren apparently had an illegal car, according to the FIA, yet it was allowed to race even though all points were stripped.  If the car was not illegal, why were the points stripped.
Mosley, in an interview, stated, that any team found with other teams documentation would be severly penalized.  And then comes Renault.  So much for that statement.
Mosley states that the 100 million fine was because McLaren could handle it.  They would not have done the same if it had been Super Aguri.  This is injustice in any court of law.
And Mosley claims this is not a witch hunt against McLaren.  Right, and I have a bridge for sale.  How many members of the FIA board are either serving members or past members of the Ferrari organization?
And now the FIA has come up with all of the new regs with respect to motor develpment, wind tunnel testing etc etc etc.  The FIA is quickly being relegated to just another racing league and not the prima donna castle of technology it was once noted for
Sue their pants off Brundle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  Brundle should sue the FIA.  Let&#8217;s see what impact the FIA had on the driver&#8217;s championship.<br />
Australia, Ferrari driving an illegal car, but driver and manufacturer points remain.<br />
Nurburing, Hamilton, although being laps down was turning same times as Massa and Alonso coming up behind, yet was given blue flags for both drivers, resulting in about a 10 second loss.  Loss of point finish..just under 10 seconds.<br />
Alonso and Hamilton having an internal tiff in the pits, FIA steps in a penalizes Alonso, thus most probably deriving him of points.<br />
Ferrari wins the driver championship.<br />
Mclaren apparently had an illegal car, according to the FIA, yet it was allowed to race even though all points were stripped.  If the car was not illegal, why were the points stripped.<br />
Mosley, in an interview, stated, that any team found with other teams documentation would be severly penalized.  And then comes Renault.  So much for that statement.<br />
Mosley states that the 100 million fine was because McLaren could handle it.  They would not have done the same if it had been Super Aguri.  This is injustice in any court of law.<br />
And Mosley claims this is not a witch hunt against McLaren.  Right, and I have a bridge for sale.  How many members of the FIA board are either serving members or past members of the Ferrari organization?<br />
And now the FIA has come up with all of the new regs with respect to motor develpment, wind tunnel testing etc etc etc.  The FIA is quickly being relegated to just another racing league and not the prima donna castle of technology it was once noted for<br />
Sue their pants off Brundle</p>
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		<title>By: edward arnett</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/12/07/fia-suing-sunday-times-over-mclaren-article/comment-page-1/#comment-118303</link>
		<dc:creator>edward arnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 00:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote to Max Mosley on 1st November questioning in so may words, why his apparent self expressed statement on an F1 website that his &#039;very personal&#039; and &#039;special&#039; relationship with Luca di Montezemolo the Chairman of Ferrari was not raised in BBC&#039;s Hardtalk interview in the middle of October.  He kindly took the trouble to reply stating that the interview overran and was omitted.  I keep asking the BBC if we I can view the unedited edition but no reply so far.  As a man in the street, a VERY long time follower of Motor Racing I am utterly depressed at the where things are going right now.
Yes, I do feel there is a witch-hunt against McClaren and after all Mr Brundle was only expressing what I guess so many of us are feeling right now. Does the FiA want lone entrepreneurs like Ron Dennis knocking the pants off corporate manufacturers I wonder ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote to Max Mosley on 1st November questioning in so may words, why his apparent self expressed statement on an F1 website that his &#8216;very personal&#8217; and &#8216;special&#8217; relationship with Luca di Montezemolo the Chairman of Ferrari was not raised in BBC&#8217;s Hardtalk interview in the middle of October.  He kindly took the trouble to reply stating that the interview overran and was omitted.  I keep asking the BBC if we I can view the unedited edition but no reply so far.  As a man in the street, a VERY long time follower of Motor Racing I am utterly depressed at the where things are going right now.<br />
Yes, I do feel there is a witch-hunt against McClaren and after all Mr Brundle was only expressing what I guess so many of us are feeling right now. Does the FiA want lone entrepreneurs like Ron Dennis knocking the pants off corporate manufacturers I wonder ?</p>
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		<title>By: doctorvee</title>
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		<dc:creator>doctorvee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 14:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sidepodcast - I see how that could be, but that surely won&#039;t work. If the FIA were to lose this case -- as most people seem to believe -- then it will just end up making the FIA looking even more stupid, and it will give everyone else a free license to write similar things about them in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sidepodcast &#8211; I see how that could be, but that surely won&#8217;t work. If the FIA were to lose this case &#8212; as most people seem to believe &#8212; then it will just end up making the FIA looking even more stupid, and it will give everyone else a free license to write similar things about them in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 13:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of a good dictatorship is that you silence any form of disagreement with censorship and either jailing or disposing of any opposition.
This article has no great difference of content from that widely voiced here and in the public domain by fans of F1 racing - whether the fia like it or not any organisation is subject to critismn at times - admitedly the fia by its nature and recent rulings has left itself open to comments - for and against it.
The world and modern communication systems have done away with restrictions in both information and free speech - this is the reality that the fia and its members who live a very cosseted and it seems unreal existence have to understand - with each recent decision and finally this announcement they are seen to be tottering on the edge of reason - in other words a bunch of nutters!! who may drive the fans away to other motor sports</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of a good dictatorship is that you silence any form of disagreement with censorship and either jailing or disposing of any opposition.<br />
This article has no great difference of content from that widely voiced here and in the public domain by fans of F1 racing &#8211; whether the fia like it or not any organisation is subject to critismn at times &#8211; admitedly the fia by its nature and recent rulings has left itself open to comments &#8211; for and against it.<br />
The world and modern communication systems have done away with restrictions in both information and free speech &#8211; this is the reality that the fia and its members who live a very cosseted and it seems unreal existence have to understand &#8211; with each recent decision and finally this announcement they are seen to be tottering on the edge of reason &#8211; in other words a bunch of nutters!! who may drive the fans away to other motor sports</p>
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		<title>By: Cooperman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cooperman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 09:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m no legal expert but I can&#039;t see any grounds on which the FIA can take legal proceedings over this article. Martin Brundle (who, I’m under the impression, holds more respect around the paddock than most) doesn’t actually say anything libellous that I can see, and he has a right to voice his opinion in a daily Newspaper whose own editors will have proof-read the piece before publishing. This has nothing to do with the McLaren / Ferrari case, or being British - it’s about freedom of speech.

I bet Jackie Stewart&#039;s feeling relieved; all he got was some dirty name calling (albeit unjust) by Max Mosely for voicing a similar opinion.

What worries me more is that the FIA are going to start throwing their weight around to silence respected journalists and sport observers (interesting when you consider that they undertook an investigation into the British tabloid&#039;s take on McLaren&#039;s &quot;team orders&quot; in Monaco). 

If the FIA are unable to justify their actions, then they should back down instead of hunting down the people who disagree with them. No doubt as a fan of F1 with an opinion that doesn’t marry up to the FIA’s actions, I will soon find myself in court as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m no legal expert but I can&#8217;t see any grounds on which the FIA can take legal proceedings over this article. Martin Brundle (who, I’m under the impression, holds more respect around the paddock than most) doesn’t actually say anything libellous that I can see, and he has a right to voice his opinion in a daily Newspaper whose own editors will have proof-read the piece before publishing. This has nothing to do with the McLaren / Ferrari case, or being British &#8211; it’s about freedom of speech.</p>
<p>I bet Jackie Stewart&#8217;s feeling relieved; all he got was some dirty name calling (albeit unjust) by Max Mosely for voicing a similar opinion.</p>
<p>What worries me more is that the FIA are going to start throwing their weight around to silence respected journalists and sport observers (interesting when you consider that they undertook an investigation into the British tabloid&#8217;s take on McLaren&#8217;s &#8220;team orders&#8221; in Monaco). </p>
<p>If the FIA are unable to justify their actions, then they should back down instead of hunting down the people who disagree with them. No doubt as a fan of F1 with an opinion that doesn’t marry up to the FIA’s actions, I will soon find myself in court as well.</p>
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		<title>By: sylvester</title>
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		<dc:creator>sylvester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 03:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>most fans are not the same sort of things, we see reality
majority here stands for british, surprise rest of the world is not british
there are poeople out there see facts for facts
get over it if Ferrari did not have the goods delivered and there is no proof of delivery clearly someone (brithis perhaps?)did get it for honorable reasons (british ones) and destroyed it without a lookie....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>most fans are not the same sort of things, we see reality<br />
majority here stands for british, surprise rest of the world is not british<br />
there are poeople out there see facts for facts<br />
get over it if Ferrari did not have the goods delivered and there is no proof of delivery clearly someone (brithis perhaps?)did get it for honorable reasons (british ones) and destroyed it without a lookie&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess I&#039;m the only one who supports the FIA at all atm.

Although having said that, their new aero rules are absurd :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess I&#8217;m the only one who supports the FIA at all atm.</p>
<p>Although having said that, their new aero rules are absurd <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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