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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t blame Hermann Tilke, blame the rules</title>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 00:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to wonder just how concrete a lot of these rules actually are.  Technically, Turn 1 alone at Shanghai could be said to violate two of them.  The first turn (a rotation for the car of at least 45 degrees) may have a maximum apex speed of 125km/h.  Also, a decreasing radius corner may have a maximum apex speed of 75km/h.  Spa and Paul Ricard both flaunt the 2km limit on straights, given that current F1 cars can take certain corners flat-out.

I believe these rules generally apply to both Grade 1 and Grade 2 circuits, which makes me wonder even more.  Potrero de los Funes in Argentina is a new Grade 2 circuit (new at least in terms of FIA inspection).  Algarve in Portugal is a new Grade 1 circuit, and I would have to think it technically breaks the rules on gradients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to wonder just how concrete a lot of these rules actually are.  Technically, Turn 1 alone at Shanghai could be said to violate two of them.  The first turn (a rotation for the car of at least 45 degrees) may have a maximum apex speed of 125km/h.  Also, a decreasing radius corner may have a maximum apex speed of 75km/h.  Spa and Paul Ricard both flaunt the 2km limit on straights, given that current F1 cars can take certain corners flat-out.</p>
<p>I believe these rules generally apply to both Grade 1 and Grade 2 circuits, which makes me wonder even more.  Potrero de los Funes in Argentina is a new Grade 2 circuit (new at least in terms of FIA inspection).  Algarve in Portugal is a new Grade 1 circuit, and I would have to think it technically breaks the rules on gradients.</p>
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		<title>By: ccolanto</title>
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		<dc:creator>ccolanto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t forget Dijon-Prenois</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#8217;t forget Dijon-Prenois</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Collantine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Indianapolis oval is banked at nine degrees which is just below F1&#039;s regulation maximum ten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Indianapolis oval is banked at nine degrees which is just below F1&#8242;s regulation maximum ten.</p>
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		<title>By: AmericanTifosi</title>
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		<dc:creator>AmericanTifosi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the video! Wow! it would be great to see some great passing moves at the corkscrew. Just as long as no one goes R10 and spins two cars out like the ALMS race this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the video! Wow! it would be great to see some great passing moves at the corkscrew. Just as long as no one goes R10 and spins two cars out like the ALMS race this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would much rather be in California than Indy. Indy may have the history and the nice resorts, but in terms of weather and overall appeal, Anywhere in Cali is better then Indy. 

How does the steep turn 4 at Indy fall into the slope calculations that the FiA use? Surely that turn is more than they would allow in a newly made track, if for no other reason than the issues Little Shu had in 04/05.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would much rather be in California than Indy. Indy may have the history and the nice resorts, but in terms of weather and overall appeal, Anywhere in Cali is better then Indy. </p>
<p>How does the steep turn 4 at Indy fall into the slope calculations that the FiA use? Surely that turn is more than they would allow in a newly made track, if for no other reason than the issues Little Shu had in 04/05.</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liked the video at lugana seca Keith and a new lap record as well - but its too interesting a track - not loads of room for hospitality as well from what I see so nix to bernie&#039;s chammpers and costa fortune to be developed/ruined to suit F1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liked the video at lugana seca Keith and a new lap record as well &#8211; but its too interesting a track &#8211; not loads of room for hospitality as well from what I see so nix to bernie&#8217;s chammpers and costa fortune to be developed/ruined to suit F1</p>
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		<title>By: Number 38</title>
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		<dc:creator>Number 38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like all the bases are covered on this thread but no one explained WHY Tilke gets all the design work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like all the bases are covered on this thread but no one explained WHY Tilke gets all the design work.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Collantine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your wish is my command! I&#039;ve added a video above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your wish is my command! I&#8217;ve added a video above.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laguna Seca! my word that would be a good race! i remember as a kid playing on my PS2... I hated the track because of the first bend and the corkscrew but I’d love to see an F1 car thrash around that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laguna Seca! my word that would be a good race! i remember as a kid playing on my PS2&#8230; I hated the track because of the first bend and the corkscrew but I’d love to see an F1 car thrash around that!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the biggest strike against Laguna Seca is it&#039;s length. An F1 race there would probably be comparable to a race at the Hungaroring in terms of action (Hungaroring is 3.7km and Laguna Seca is 3.6km. And the Hungaroring actually has a longer main straight). But who knows. You just might see some dive-bombing passing moves into the corkscrew, a la Zanardi. THAT would be sweet. :D

I love Nathans idea about racing on the old osterreichring. And it appears the old track is still in place, at least in the grainy google earth photo. Hopefully it didn&#039;t get ripped up like the old Hockemheim did. Though I guess after this many years it would need repaving anyways.

Bathurst? Now there&#039;s a circuit the FIA would be wagging a disapproving finger at. Would be cool though. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the biggest strike against Laguna Seca is it&#8217;s length. An F1 race there would probably be comparable to a race at the Hungaroring in terms of action (Hungaroring is 3.7km and Laguna Seca is 3.6km. And the Hungaroring actually has a longer main straight). But who knows. You just might see some dive-bombing passing moves into the corkscrew, a la Zanardi. THAT would be sweet. <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I love Nathans idea about racing on the old osterreichring. And it appears the old track is still in place, at least in the grainy google earth photo. Hopefully it didn&#8217;t get ripped up like the old Hockemheim did. Though I guess after this many years it would need repaving anyways.</p>
<p>Bathurst? Now there&#8217;s a circuit the FIA would be wagging a disapproving finger at. Would be cool though. <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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