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	<title>Comments on: F1 news review: Mosley backs Raikkonen</title>
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		<title>By: Shane Phillips</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/12/28/f1-news-review-mosley-backs-raikkonen/comment-page-1/#comment-129031</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 11:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can max make comments like this then still claim that he is neutral, it is quiet clear that his middle name is Ferrari, and he is obviously biased. I personally hate him, he is a far bigger blight on the sport than any of the teams (except ferrari) are, and I want him out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can max make comments like this then still claim that he is neutral, it is quiet clear that his middle name is Ferrari, and he is obviously biased. I personally hate him, he is a far bigger blight on the sport than any of the teams (except ferrari) are, and I want him out.</p>
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		<title>By: openwheelfan</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/12/28/f1-news-review-mosley-backs-raikkonen/comment-page-1/#comment-128346</link>
		<dc:creator>openwheelfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 02:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly there is some bad personal blood between Max and Ron.  I think that in all of racing getting an edge over the competition will increase the bottome line.  Some call this cheating.  Max said that the McLaren cheating is worth 100 mil us.  But from what I have read Renault is far more culpable as a team for industrial espionage than McLaren as a team ever was.  The investigation on Renault is over.  We have all been looking at these two events and comparing what should have been done to Renault.  The driver here is Ferrari.  If a hint of &quot;crime&quot; against them, the suspect is guilty and that is it.  If Max dealt with all &quot;spying&quot; the same (instate a zero tolerence policy for example) I would have no issue with him.  But the favoratism that is constantly shown to Ferrari is so blatent.  Think, who will benefit the most from a 10 year engine freeze?  It sometimes feels as if policy for the FIA is started in Maranello not Paris. My utter contempt for this man aside I am really looking foward to 2008.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly there is some bad personal blood between Max and Ron.  I think that in all of racing getting an edge over the competition will increase the bottome line.  Some call this cheating.  Max said that the McLaren cheating is worth 100 mil us.  But from what I have read Renault is far more culpable as a team for industrial espionage than McLaren as a team ever was.  The investigation on Renault is over.  We have all been looking at these two events and comparing what should have been done to Renault.  The driver here is Ferrari.  If a hint of &#8220;crime&#8221; against them, the suspect is guilty and that is it.  If Max dealt with all &#8220;spying&#8221; the same (instate a zero tolerence policy for example) I would have no issue with him.  But the favoratism that is constantly shown to Ferrari is so blatent.  Think, who will benefit the most from a 10 year engine freeze?  It sometimes feels as if policy for the FIA is started in Maranello not Paris. My utter contempt for this man aside I am really looking foward to 2008.</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 00:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mamzee - I agree with what stephen has to say in that if ferrari transgrese - mininimal if nil punishment is given and as for teams having each others info as soon as you think of an idea someone is copying it!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mamzee &#8211; I agree with what stephen has to say in that if ferrari transgrese &#8211; mininimal if nil punishment is given and as for teams having each others info as soon as you think of an idea someone is copying it!!</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Roy</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/12/28/f1-news-review-mosley-backs-raikkonen/comment-page-1/#comment-128275</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 21:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McLaren has admitted a degree of guilt as has   My point is simply that many if not all the teams were doing the same thing.  You asked what if the story had been the other way round.  Well according to Nigel Stepney the information was travelling in both directions.

Like everyone else who has suggested that there is a witch hunt against McLaren I have not said so because I believe they have not done wrong.  I have said so because of the punishments they have received compared to other teams.  Don&#039;t just look at the spying.  Alonso parks his car in the pits and McLaren lose constructors points from both cars.  That punishment has never in 58 years been handed to any team for the behaviour of one of its drivers.  Schumacher twice rammed drivers and parked his car at Monaco to stop Alonso getting pole.  Not once did his team receive any penalty.  A bit unfaur to say the least.

Be clear I am not saying Schumacher&#039;s teams should have been penalised or that he is the only driver ever to have committed offences.  I am simply pointing out that the rules are applied harshly to McLaren whereas Ferrari almost always get an easy ride.  For example when there barge board was illegal when measured on the car but legal when measured on a jig in Paris a week later.

There is blatant bias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McLaren has admitted a degree of guilt as has   My point is simply that many if not all the teams were doing the same thing.  You asked what if the story had been the other way round.  Well according to Nigel Stepney the information was travelling in both directions.</p>
<p>Like everyone else who has suggested that there is a witch hunt against McLaren I have not said so because I believe they have not done wrong.  I have said so because of the punishments they have received compared to other teams.  Don&#8217;t just look at the spying.  Alonso parks his car in the pits and McLaren lose constructors points from both cars.  That punishment has never in 58 years been handed to any team for the behaviour of one of its drivers.  Schumacher twice rammed drivers and parked his car at Monaco to stop Alonso getting pole.  Not once did his team receive any penalty.  A bit unfaur to say the least.</p>
<p>Be clear I am not saying Schumacher&#8217;s teams should have been penalised or that he is the only driver ever to have committed offences.  I am simply pointing out that the rules are applied harshly to McLaren whereas Ferrari almost always get an easy ride.  For example when there barge board was illegal when measured on the car but legal when measured on a jig in Paris a week later.</p>
<p>There is blatant bias.</p>
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		<title>By: Mamzee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mamzee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 15:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven, correct me if I’m wrong. Am I correct to state that Mc Laren admitted its wrong doing? I suggest that you take a look at this; http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/12/13/mclaren-apologises-over-ferrari-spy-scandal/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven, correct me if I’m wrong. Am I correct to state that Mc Laren admitted its wrong doing? I suggest that you take a look at this; <a href="http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/12/13/mclaren-apologises-over-ferrari-spy-scandal/" rel="nofollow">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/12/13/mclaren-apologises-over-ferrari-spy-scandal/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Don Speekingleesh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Speekingleesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 13:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t be inclined to trust Stepney either, but to dismiss his accusations without even a cursory investigation is frankly idiotic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be inclined to trust Stepney either, but to dismiss his accusations without even a cursory investigation is frankly idiotic.</p>
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		<title>By: milos</title>
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		<dc:creator>milos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 02:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not 100% trust what Nigel Stepney says although the possibility he is telling the truth can&#039;t be discounted. But have to rememeber that guy&#039;s career is over and he still faces criminal charges with a chance to end up in jail ... If he can&#039;t keep saying he did nothing wrong any longer, he needs to point the blame elsewhere ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not 100% trust what Nigel Stepney says although the possibility he is telling the truth can&#8217;t be discounted. But have to rememeber that guy&#8217;s career is over and he still faces criminal charges with a chance to end up in jail &#8230; If he can&#8217;t keep saying he did nothing wrong any longer, he needs to point the blame elsewhere &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Roy</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/12/28/f1-news-review-mosley-backs-raikkonen/comment-page-1/#comment-127999</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mamzee,

I suggest you read the open letter Nigel Stepney wrote to Max Mosley where he said he was getting McLaren information and passing it on to Ferrari colleagues.

It is complete fantasy that McLaren were doing anything that other teams were not.  The only difference was the FIA&#039;s response.

Renault were found guilty of exactly the same thing.  Toyota had two engineers jailed who  for taking info when they left Ferrari.  The FIA did not investigate it.  Colin Kolles presented the FIA with an STR drawing to prove that their car was a Red Bull.  The FIA didn&#039;t even ask him how he came to be in possession of the drawing and strangely they didn&#039;t launch an investigation. 

Max has clearly been very fair.  Five incidents, two investigations, one team penalised.  Very fair.  Clearly the behaviour of a gentleman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mamzee,</p>
<p>I suggest you read the open letter Nigel Stepney wrote to Max Mosley where he said he was getting McLaren information and passing it on to Ferrari colleagues.</p>
<p>It is complete fantasy that McLaren were doing anything that other teams were not.  The only difference was the FIA&#8217;s response.</p>
<p>Renault were found guilty of exactly the same thing.  Toyota had two engineers jailed who  for taking info when they left Ferrari.  The FIA did not investigate it.  Colin Kolles presented the FIA with an STR drawing to prove that their car was a Red Bull.  The FIA didn&#8217;t even ask him how he came to be in possession of the drawing and strangely they didn&#8217;t launch an investigation. </p>
<p>Max has clearly been very fair.  Five incidents, two investigations, one team penalised.  Very fair.  Clearly the behaviour of a gentleman.</p>
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		<title>By: Mamzee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mamzee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if the “Spy Story” was the other way round? Suppose Mc Laren claimed that Ferrari spied on them? Let’s not be hypocrites, I think that by now we are all sure that Mc Laren did thing that shouldn’t have been done. We all know that Mc Laren will be competing next simply because “money” is still far more important then the sportsmanship. Hat’s off to Max Mosley, a real British gentleman in all senses.  Let’s not be hypocrites, Ferrari deserved both drivers and constructors championship last year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the “Spy Story” was the other way round? Suppose Mc Laren claimed that Ferrari spied on them? Let’s not be hypocrites, I think that by now we are all sure that Mc Laren did thing that shouldn’t have been done. We all know that Mc Laren will be competing next simply because “money” is still far more important then the sportsmanship. Hat’s off to Max Mosley, a real British gentleman in all senses.  Let’s not be hypocrites, Ferrari deserved both drivers and constructors championship last year!</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anything you must give Max his due he is not biased in any way towards any team other than ferrari - so the rest as well as mcclaren are just wasting their time and money - and if jean todt was to replace max? - I&#039;m sorry just pack the whole thing in and rename it the ferrari challenge - and if mcclaren do win a few gp&#039;s - yes you were right they were ferrari&#039;s in disguise - using there full intellectual(sic) knowledge(yawn)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anything you must give Max his due he is not biased in any way towards any team other than ferrari &#8211; so the rest as well as mcclaren are just wasting their time and money &#8211; and if jean todt was to replace max? &#8211; I&#8217;m sorry just pack the whole thing in and rename it the ferrari challenge &#8211; and if mcclaren do win a few gp&#8217;s &#8211; yes you were right they were ferrari&#8217;s in disguise &#8211; using there full intellectual(sic) knowledge(yawn)</p>
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