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> <channel><title>Comments on: Video: Valencia street track vs road course</title> <atom:link href="http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/</link> <description>F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog with F1 news, pictures, video, comment and analysis</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:41:42 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Keith Collantine</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/comment-page-1/#comment-146255</link> <dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:44:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/#comment-146255</guid> <description>Hey Zilman &lt;a href=&quot;/2008/02/18/your-questions-team-mate-crashes-and-more/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post will answer your question&lt;/a&gt;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Zilman <a
href="/2008/02/18/your-questions-team-mate-crashes-and-more/" rel="nofollow">this post will answer your question</a>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ziilman</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/comment-page-1/#comment-146254</link> <dc:creator>ziilman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 19:39:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/#comment-146254</guid> <description>Does anyone know when tickets for valencia will be available?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know when tickets for valencia will be available?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Valencia Guy</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/comment-page-1/#comment-141457</link> <dc:creator>Valencia Guy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:17:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/#comment-141457</guid> <description>What can you expect from a country which already sold everything???</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can you expect from a country which already sold everything???</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith Collantine</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/comment-page-1/#comment-140271</link> <dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:39:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/#comment-140271</guid> <description>I agree with William when he says, &quot;the overtaking problem is not so much the fault of tracks as it is the cars.&quot; But when GP2 cars struggle to overtake on a track like Ricardo Torno, it&#039;s clearly not right for F1. It&#039;s just too small - almost like an 80% scale model of an F1 track.As for Monaco, drivers were complaining it was too tight for overtaking in the sixties. It stays on the calendar because money talks.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with William when he says, &#8220;the overtaking problem is not so much the fault of tracks as it is the cars.&#8221; But when GP2 cars struggle to overtake on a track like Ricardo Torno, it&#8217;s clearly not right for F1. It&#8217;s just too small &#8211; almost like an 80% scale model of an F1 track.</p><p>As for Monaco, drivers were complaining it was too tight for overtaking in the sixties. It stays on the calendar because money talks.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: William Wilgus</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/comment-page-1/#comment-140265</link> <dc:creator>William Wilgus</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 23:21:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/#comment-140265</guid> <description>To my way of thinking, tight, twisty tracks should provide more opportunities for passing---any driver mistakes / car bobbles in tight, slow turns are `more expensive&#039; than in high-speed turns.  The over-taking problem is not so much the fault of tracks as it is the cars.  BTW, if tight, twisty tracks are no good, why is Monaco still on the race calendar?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To my way of thinking, tight, twisty tracks should provide more opportunities for passing&#8212;any driver mistakes / car bobbles in tight, slow turns are `more expensive&#8217; than in high-speed turns.  The over-taking problem is not so much the fault of tracks as it is the cars.  BTW, if tight, twisty tracks are no good, why is Monaco still on the race calendar?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alianora La Canta</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/comment-page-1/#comment-140225</link> <dc:creator>Alianora La Canta</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:17:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/#comment-140225</guid> <description>There are no protests in Singapore because the government there actually went to the trouble of consulting its people properly before commissioning the track, something that hasn&#039;t happened in Valencia. In fact, the Valencia track constructors appear not to have followed their own environmental impact protocol, so desperate were they to put in this track against the local people&#039;s protests...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no protests in Singapore because the government there actually went to the trouble of consulting its people properly before commissioning the track, something that hasn&#8217;t happened in Valencia. In fact, the Valencia track constructors appear not to have followed their own environmental impact protocol, so desperate were they to put in this track against the local people&#8217;s protests&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Journeyer</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/comment-page-1/#comment-140079</link> <dc:creator>Journeyer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:28:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/#comment-140079</guid> <description>I&#039;m so excited, especially for Singapore - I&#039;m going there!  Why are there no protests in Singapore?  First, they&#039;d love to become the Asian Monaco and beat out friendly rival Hong Kong (whose role this year will be related to the Olympics).  Second, what the SG government wants, they get.  End of story.Anyway, well, these are really good city circuits - designed by Tilke too!  Glad to see he can come up with some brilliant layouts (after Istanbul).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so excited, especially for Singapore &#8211; I&#8217;m going there!  Why are there no protests in Singapore?  First, they&#8217;d love to become the Asian Monaco and beat out friendly rival Hong Kong (whose role this year will be related to the Olympics).  Second, what the SG government wants, they get.  End of story.</p><p>Anyway, well, these are really good city circuits &#8211; designed by Tilke too!  Glad to see he can come up with some brilliant layouts (after Istanbul).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: f1minute.com</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/comment-page-1/#comment-140044</link> <dc:creator>f1minute.com</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:52:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/#comment-140044</guid> <description>&quot;GP2 (now that will be fun)&quot;oooh, hadn&#039;t thought of that one :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;GP2 (now that will be fun)&#8221;</p><p>oooh, hadn&#8217;t thought of that one <img
src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Seb Carter</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/comment-page-1/#comment-140021</link> <dc:creator>Seb Carter</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:03:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/#comment-140021</guid> <description>The street circuits this year look really good, with none of the right angles and slow, tight undramatic racing we have seen with previous circuits. Valencia looks really good, with some actual overtaking spots and corners over 120kmh while Singapore has some extremely wide long straights lading into tight over taking spots. overall i think the street circuits this year will be really really good for f1 since they will provide us with not only the glamour, but also the racing to match.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The street circuits this year look really good, with none of the right angles and slow, tight undramatic racing we have seen with previous circuits. Valencia looks really good, with some actual overtaking spots and corners over 120kmh while Singapore has some extremely wide long straights lading into tight over taking spots. overall i think the street circuits this year will be really really good for f1 since they will provide us with not only the glamour, but also the racing to match.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith Collantine</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/comment-page-1/#comment-140019</link> <dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:01:29 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/#comment-140019</guid> <description>With it being a street race I&#039;m not sure if there will be much testing done of the circuit before the race weekend. As it&#039;s a European round I&#039;d expect Formula BMW Europe, Porsche Supercup and GP2 (now &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; will be fun) as support races.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With it being a street race I&#8217;m not sure if there will be much testing done of the circuit before the race weekend. As it&#8217;s a European round I&#8217;d expect Formula BMW Europe, Porsche Supercup and GP2 (now <em>that</em> will be fun) as support races.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bruce McLaren</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/comment-page-1/#comment-140018</link> <dc:creator>Bruce McLaren</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:47:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/#comment-140018</guid> <description>From the look of that &#039;quikmap&#039; they bridge hasn&#039;t been built, and a large section of the west end is yet to be developed. Is construction underway? What races will be on the track pre-F1? We&#039;re not racing there until the 24th of August and I hope they have a couple of competitive series race prior to the &#039;main&#039; event. Can anyone offer an insight into the first time we&#039;ll get to see the track in a race proper?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the look of that &#8216;quikmap&#8217; they bridge hasn&#8217;t been built, and a large section of the west end is yet to be developed. Is construction underway? What races will be on the track pre-F1? We&#8217;re not racing there until the 24th of August and I hope they have a couple of competitive series race prior to the &#8216;main&#8217; event. Can anyone offer an insight into the first time we&#8217;ll get to see the track in a race proper?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: frecon</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/comment-page-1/#comment-140015</link> <dc:creator>frecon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:38:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/#comment-140015</guid> <description>there is hundreds of circuits like Riccardo Tormo, and even better. The only option for Valencia is a street circuit, run with a F1 in ricardo tormo is stupid.Ricardo Tormo is said that is a motorbike circuit. The good point of this circuit is in any stand, crowd can see any part of the track.Valencia street circuit looks good. there is five zones over 300kmh. I&#039;m not sure, but i&#039;ve read, valencia street circuit is the third fastest circuit in 2008.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is hundreds of circuits like Riccardo Tormo, and even better. The only option for Valencia is a street circuit, run with a F1 in ricardo tormo is stupid.</p><p>Ricardo Tormo is said that is a motorbike circuit. The good point of this circuit is in any stand, crowd can see any part of the track.</p><p>Valencia street circuit looks good. there is five zones over 300kmh. I&#8217;m not sure, but i&#8217;ve read, valencia street circuit is the third fastest circuit in 2008.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Eric M.</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/comment-page-1/#comment-140003</link> <dc:creator>Eric M.</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:19:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/#comment-140003</guid> <description>I think the Valencia street circuit will be fantastic! Really looking forward to this one. Photos of the route being used actually make it look even better than that simulated lap does. Great surroundings.The road course outside the city reminds me a lot of the Beunos Aires circuit that was used in the 90&#039;s. Very tight and very twisty. In fact it actually reminds me of an oval infield course. A ring of stands surrounding a big flat area with a lot of asphalt and gravel. Very typical sterile autodrome, in my opinion.I don&#039;t see there being a problem with removing damaged cars. If the circuit is built right, there should be many access points for the marshalls to get in there and do their thing. There might be more safety cars though.Also, not that I&#039;m a big Hamilton fan, but I think it would be a hoot if he won the first race there. ;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Valencia street circuit will be fantastic! Really looking forward to this one. Photos of the route being used actually make it look even better than that simulated lap does. Great surroundings.</p><p>The road course outside the city reminds me a lot of the Beunos Aires circuit that was used in the 90&#8217;s. Very tight and very twisty. In fact it actually reminds me of an oval infield course. A ring of stands surrounding a big flat area with a lot of asphalt and gravel. Very typical sterile autodrome, in my opinion.</p><p>I don&#8217;t see there being a problem with removing damaged cars. If the circuit is built right, there should be many access points for the marshalls to get in there and do their thing. There might be more safety cars though.</p><p>Also, not that I&#8217;m a big Hamilton fan, but I think it would be a hoot if he won the first race there. <img
src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DAVE</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/comment-page-1/#comment-139999</link> <dc:creator>DAVE</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:14:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/#comment-139999</guid> <description>I&#039;m more excited about the two new street track additions to the F1 calendar in 2008 than I have been for any new track for a long time. The Valencia simulation looks fascinating but I do wonder about the exit straight into that bridge.. I suspect it wont quite be like that in reality.I totally agree though.. the Ricardo Tormo Valencia circuit is not suitable for F1 in my opinion. Too twisty and not enough long straights. I saw the WTCC and GP2 races there last year (ON TV) and it looked quite difficult to overtake. PLEASE F1 dont go there!!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m more excited about the two new street track additions to the F1 calendar in 2008 than I have been for any new track for a long time. The Valencia simulation looks fascinating but I do wonder about the exit straight into that bridge.. I suspect it wont quite be like that in reality.</p><p>I totally agree though.. the Ricardo Tormo Valencia circuit is not suitable for F1 in my opinion. Too twisty and not enough long straights. I saw the WTCC and GP2 races there last year (ON TV) and it looked quite difficult to overtake. PLEASE F1 dont go there!!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: alan</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/comment-page-1/#comment-139992</link> <dc:creator>alan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:23:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/01/30/video-valencia-street-track-vs-road-course/#comment-139992</guid> <description>Street cicuits - narrow not many places to remove damaged cars - sorry I will probably be wrong - but doesn&#039;t tick my box - but not long to find out if the residents of that city - opponents of bernie&#039;s friend or enviromental protestors have to put up with another mediocre circuit with all the hassle of trying to live - another triumph of pr from take it or leave it little big man</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Street cicuits &#8211; narrow not many places to remove damaged cars &#8211; sorry I will probably be wrong &#8211; but doesn&#8217;t tick my box &#8211; but not long to find out if the residents of that city &#8211; opponents of bernie&#8217;s friend or enviromental protestors have to put up with another mediocre circuit with all the hassle of trying to live &#8211; another triumph of pr from take it or leave it little big man</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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