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> <channel><title>Comments on: F1 must take a stand against racism now (update 2)</title> <atom:link href="http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/</link> <description>F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog with F1 news, pictures, video, comment and analysis</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:05:47 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: davidsimsjr.com</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-146001</link> <dc:creator>davidsimsjr.com</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2008 15:45:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-146001</guid> <description>I hope not to offend anyone by my opinion but racism has always been an issue in racing because racing in it&#039;s essence imatates life. Please understand economic hardship prevents many minorities from competing in motorsports due to the sport being the most expensive form of competition on earth. Motorsports has mostly been a sport reserved for the financially priveleged.
I hope those reading this can understand racism isn&#039;t just about hatred or black face, It&#039;s about competition for survival. It was through conquest that developed a system of supremacy and thereby allowing priveledge. When faced with change people feel threatened. Lewis Hamilton represents change. If F1 wants to counter racisim they should develop a program that creates diversity in their sport. Ron Dennis was F1&#039;s diversity program even though he didn&#039;t know it. After Lewis is gone who will be next? Nobody whants to admit it but there is a need for a diversity program in F1 due to the economical hardship minority drivers are faced with! I speak firsthand because my son just as Lewis has a tremendous talent but without financial support he will never get the chance to show it. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope not to offend anyone by my opinion but racism has always been an issue in racing because racing in it&#8217;s essence imatates life. Please understand economic hardship prevents many minorities from competing in motorsports due to the sport being the most expensive form of competition on earth. Motorsports has mostly been a sport reserved for the financially priveleged.<br
/> I hope those reading this can understand racism isn&#8217;t just about hatred or black face, It&#8217;s about competition for survival. It was through conquest that developed a system of supremacy and thereby allowing priveledge. When faced with change people feel threatened. Lewis Hamilton represents change. If F1 wants to counter racisim they should develop a program that creates diversity in their sport. Ron Dennis was F1&#8217;s diversity program even though he didn&#8217;t know it. After Lewis is gone who will be next? Nobody whants to admit it but there is a need for a diversity program in F1 due to the economical hardship minority drivers are faced with! I speak firsthand because my son just as Lewis has a tremendous talent but without financial support he will never get the chance to show it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: angler</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-143286</link> <dc:creator>angler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 03:51:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-143286</guid> <description>Thank you, Keith.Part of why I love this site so much is that you allow honest discussion, informed discussion, and also - passionate discussion. But, in the end ... it&#039;s not about censorship as much as it is about having the ability/morality to choose what you will and will not allow in your midst.&quot;Racism&quot;, in its way, is something we all have equal responsibility to either allow or not allow in OUR midsts.&quot;I&#039;m just sayin&#039;&quot;, grin ...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Keith.</p><p>Part of why I love this site so much is that you allow honest discussion, informed discussion, and also &#8211; passionate discussion. But, in the end &#8230; it&#8217;s not about censorship as much as it is about having the ability/morality to choose what you will and will not allow in your midst.</p><p>&#8220;Racism&#8221;, in its way, is something we all have equal responsibility to either allow or not allow in OUR midsts.</p><p>&#8220;I&#8217;m just sayin&#8217;&#8221;, grin &#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith Collantine</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-142090</link> <dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:44:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-142090</guid> <description>I&#039;ve had to remove some comments from here and other articles today. Can I remind everyone that personal attacks, swearing and racist remarks will be deleted or censored. See here for more information:http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/credits-and-contacts/f1-fanatic-comment-policy/</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had to remove some comments from here and other articles today. Can I remind everyone that personal attacks, swearing and racist remarks will be deleted or censored. See here for more information:</p><p><a
href="http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/credits-and-contacts/f1-fanatic-comment-policy/" rel="nofollow">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/credits-and-contacts/f1-fanatic-comment-policy/</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: angler</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-142051</link> <dc:creator>angler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:12:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-142051</guid> <description>The &quot;hooligans&quot; in my country, the USA, are just as much hooligans as they are in any other country, Kun.The point is not that there ARE these people ... the point is that none of us should allow them in our midst.That&#039;s not a &quot;country&#039;s&quot; job. There&#039;s no &quot;police state&quot; on the planet which can stop a damned thing.It&#039;s OUR job. As EQUAL HUMAN BEINGS.At some point, it&#039;s time to stop standing &quot;by&quot; ... it&#039;s time to stand UP. Together.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;hooligans&#8221; in my country, the USA, are just as much hooligans as they are in any other country, Kun.</p><p>The point is not that there ARE these people &#8230; the point is that none of us should allow them in our midst.</p><p>That&#8217;s not a &#8220;country&#8217;s&#8221; job. There&#8217;s no &#8220;police state&#8221; on the planet which can stop a damned thing.</p><p>It&#8217;s OUR job. As EQUAL HUMAN BEINGS.</p><p>At some point, it&#8217;s time to stop standing &#8220;by&#8221; &#8230; it&#8217;s time to stand UP. Together.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Michael K</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-142019</link> <dc:creator>Michael K</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:09:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-142019</guid> <description>Well, the main difference between Spain and other civilised countries (not only Britain) is that in other larger countries something is done against racism when it happens and this never used to happen in Spain. Now it looks like in this case there is some effort from the Spanish side, which is good to see.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the main difference between Spain and other civilised countries (not only Britain) is that in other larger countries something is done against racism when it happens and this never used to happen in Spain. Now it looks like in this case there is some effort from the Spanish side, which is good to see.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kun</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-141993</link> <dc:creator>Kun</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:11:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-141993</guid> <description>oh, well, I see you didn&#039;t like my comments about All britains are racists too. It&#039;s the same with me when british media say all spanish people are racists.And to talk about behavior before look at into your country and tell me if your hooligans have an ideal behavior.Hamilton is a driver extremally un-fair, he is no a victim, he is an agitator,  this is my true, he always telling bad things about the others... then these are the consequences.He is the only driver not estimated for his companions. Why?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, well, I see you didn&#8217;t like my comments about All britains are racists too. It&#8217;s the same with me when british media say all spanish people are racists.</p><p>And to talk about behavior before look at into your country and tell me if your hooligans have an ideal behavior.</p><p>Hamilton is a driver extremally un-fair, he is no a victim, he is an agitator,  this is my true, he always telling bad things about the others&#8230; then these are the consequences.He is the only driver not estimated for his companions. Why?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: angler</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-141853</link> <dc:creator>angler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:50:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-141853</guid> <description>Kun:Wow. I can see that you like the use of the word &quot;hate&quot;, though in your case, it might not be racist in the sense that you despise Hamilton&#039;s &quot;mixed race&quot;, or even that you despise him as a man ... you seem to despise the Brits equally as much, and I&#039;m quite certain that their population is as mixed as any other on the planet these days.My suggestion would be to clarify your thoughts, rather than to make blanket statements about a country&#039;s -- or a RACE&#039;s -- behavior modules.Surely, you would not like your countrymen and/or -women to be judged in this way for your own statements, above.Just a thought.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kun:</p><p>Wow. I can see that you like the use of the word &#8220;hate&#8221;, though in your case, it might not be racist in the sense that you despise Hamilton&#8217;s &#8220;mixed race&#8221;, or even that you despise him as a man &#8230; you seem to despise the Brits equally as much, and I&#8217;m quite certain that their population is as mixed as any other on the planet these days.</p><p>My suggestion would be to clarify your thoughts, rather than to make blanket statements about a country&#8217;s &#8212; or a RACE&#8217;s &#8212; behavior modules.</p><p>Surely, you would not like your countrymen and/or -women to be judged in this way for your own statements, above.</p><p>Just a thought.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KB</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-141715</link> <dc:creator>KB</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:32:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-141715</guid> <description>Steven, Bernie is all about money and at the mo, Spain is where the money is to be made, LH has done nothing to endear himself to fans of Alonso(and I am not one), he constantly states(or the press states) this fact.The few racists who were in Spain should be ashamed, but in general Hamilton has to expect the Alonso Spanish fans to wind him up! Its called rivalry.You cant tar everyone with the same brush!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven, Bernie is all about money and at the mo, Spain is where the money is to be made, LH has done nothing to endear himself to fans of Alonso(and I am not one), he constantly states(or the press states) this fact.</p><p>The few racists who were in Spain should be ashamed, but in general Hamilton has to expect the Alonso Spanish fans to wind him up! Its called rivalry.</p><p>You cant tar everyone with the same brush!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Steven Roy</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-141703</link> <dc:creator>Steven Roy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 14:33:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-141703</guid> <description>Kun,Are you seriously saying one driver cannot criticise another&#039;s behaviour or if he does he can expect to be treated like this.The idea that it is OK just to hate someone based on the media&#039;s representation of their views is pathetic and infantile.  I really don&#039;t understand how people can watch motor racing like it was football and only be interested in one driver.  I cannot understand what motivates people to spend a day at a track hurling abuse at a driver for whatever motivation.The people doing that are missing the whole point of going to a circuit.  Spain gets more access to F1 than any other country and instead of race fans enjoying it there are morons who do nothing but abuse someone and espouse hate.  You really need to think about what you are saying.Make no mistake Bernie won&#039;t hesitate to take the race somewhere else.  Barcelona, Valencia and Jerez may be the most popular testing circuits now but that can change.  Bernie happens to own a circuit in the south of France which is set up to re-create any kind of track layout.  He would love to switch all testing there.The sensible Spanish fans need to decide whether or not they are going to let these morons take away all the testing and both races or whether they are going to stand up and tell these people to shut up and get out.People must have something better to do with their lives than hate racing drivers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kun,</p><p>Are you seriously saying one driver cannot criticise another&#8217;s behaviour or if he does he can expect to be treated like this.</p><p>The idea that it is OK just to hate someone based on the media&#8217;s representation of their views is pathetic and infantile.  I really don&#8217;t understand how people can watch motor racing like it was football and only be interested in one driver.  I cannot understand what motivates people to spend a day at a track hurling abuse at a driver for whatever motivation.</p><p>The people doing that are missing the whole point of going to a circuit.  Spain gets more access to F1 than any other country and instead of race fans enjoying it there are morons who do nothing but abuse someone and espouse hate.  You really need to think about what you are saying.</p><p>Make no mistake Bernie won&#8217;t hesitate to take the race somewhere else.  Barcelona, Valencia and Jerez may be the most popular testing circuits now but that can change.  Bernie happens to own a circuit in the south of France which is set up to re-create any kind of track layout.  He would love to switch all testing there.</p><p>The sensible Spanish fans need to decide whether or not they are going to let these morons take away all the testing and both races or whether they are going to stand up and tell these people to shut up and get out.</p><p>People must have something better to do with their lives than hate racing drivers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kun</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-141626</link> <dc:creator>Kun</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:04:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-141626</guid> <description>Hamilton is the public enemy of F1 spanish supporters.If he continues to tell bad words about Alonso he&#039;ll be insulted and more...
The Hamilton&#039;s image is very poor in Spain, he is not welcome in Spain.No racism, only hate.And you, britains, shut up! your hooligans are the worst of the sport. You are not an example!It&#039;s just an opinion.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamilton is the public enemy of F1 spanish supporters.</p><p>If he continues to tell bad words about Alonso he&#8217;ll be insulted and more&#8230;<br
/> The Hamilton&#8217;s image is very poor in Spain, he is not welcome in Spain.</p><p>No racism, only hate.</p><p>And you, britains, shut up! your hooligans are the worst of the sport. You are not an example!</p><p>It&#8217;s just an opinion.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: KB</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-141624</link> <dc:creator>KB</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:45:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-141624</guid> <description>It has nothing to do with Alonso, they maynot be his ppl, LH has alot of ppl who dont like him, and not all of them are Alonso fans.He doesnt do anything to make it better himself, if ppl know he is annoyed by it then those who want to annoy him simply will!This is the world we live in, you cant control every single persons actions!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has nothing to do with Alonso, they maynot be his ppl, LH has alot of ppl who dont like him, and not all of them are Alonso fans.</p><p>He doesnt do anything to make it better himself, if ppl know he is annoyed by it then those who want to annoy him simply will!</p><p>This is the world we live in, you cant control every single persons actions!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kostyasch</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-141620</link> <dc:creator>Kostyasch</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:15:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-141620</guid> <description>And to be honest the reactions are very typical. Usually it goes like this:1) There is a racist attack.2) First reactions are shock and outrage.3) In the second wave of reactions opinions appear which try to play it down: oh, it wasn&#039;t that bad after all, just a joke, nothing serious. The harsh condemnation of it in the media is exaggerated. Only the evil media made an issue of nothing. Etc.
We are here now.4) Next step will be: actually there wasn&#039;t anything bad happening, it&#039;s only that guy of color who is trying to make an issue of it with the help of the evil media and by that he is trying to make us look bad and capitalize on that.5) And then instead of remorse the hate on the guy will even go bigger, because now all of a sudden he is the bad guy in the story in many people&#039;s eyes.Sorry to sound a bit cynical but you know, there is nothing new under the Sun...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to be honest the reactions are very typical. Usually it goes like this:</p><p>1) There is a racist attack.</p><p>2) First reactions are shock and outrage.</p><p>3) In the second wave of reactions opinions appear which try to play it down: oh, it wasn&#8217;t that bad after all, just a joke, nothing serious. The harsh condemnation of it in the media is exaggerated. Only the evil media made an issue of nothing. Etc.<br
/> We are here now.</p><p>4) Next step will be: actually there wasn&#8217;t anything bad happening, it&#8217;s only that guy of color who is trying to make an issue of it with the help of the evil media and by that he is trying to make us look bad and capitalize on that.</p><p>5) And then instead of remorse the hate on the guy will even go bigger, because now all of a sudden he is the bad guy in the story in many people&#8217;s eyes.</p><p>Sorry to sound a bit cynical but you know, there is nothing new under the Sun&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kostyasch</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-141619</link> <dc:creator>Kostyasch</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:02:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-141619</guid> <description>frecon!Nobody says Alonso is responsible (IMO he is partly responsible for what happened at McLaren while the Spanish media is trying to portray him very much one-sidedly as &quot;THE victim&quot; but that&#039;s another issue. That his heated fans respond to this conflict with such behaviour is not his fault, of course.) However he should react! At least he already did with a very short comment if what Adrivo.com wrote is true (I didn&#039;t read that quote anywhere else), better than nothing, but to be honest I expected a more clear message from him - an official statement or an interview or something. Not because it&#039;s his responsibility what was going on there but because these are his fans and he has to make it clear he doesn&#039;t want support like that and he condemns such behaviour! I will be very disappoined in him if he doesn&#039;t stand up against it more clearly!Also, nobody says it&#039;s only Spain where there is racism. In my country, an Eastern European country, there is racism, antisemitsm too and it saddens me just as much. And you know what? I won&#039;t try to defend my country over this. I won&#039;t try to play it down. Trying to make it look like nothing bad or &quot;exaggerated&quot; is not the way to fight against it and make your country a better country!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frecon!</p><p>Nobody says Alonso is responsible (IMO he is partly responsible for what happened at McLaren while the Spanish media is trying to portray him very much one-sidedly as &#8220;THE victim&#8221; but that&#8217;s another issue. That his heated fans respond to this conflict with such behaviour is not his fault, of course.) However he should react! At least he already did with a very short comment if what Adrivo.com wrote is true (I didn&#8217;t read that quote anywhere else), better than nothing, but to be honest I expected a more clear message from him &#8211; an official statement or an interview or something. Not because it&#8217;s his responsibility what was going on there but because these are his fans and he has to make it clear he doesn&#8217;t want support like that and he condemns such behaviour! I will be very disappoined in him if he doesn&#8217;t stand up against it more clearly!</p><p>Also, nobody says it&#8217;s only Spain where there is racism. In my country, an Eastern European country, there is racism, antisemitsm too and it saddens me just as much. And you know what? I won&#8217;t try to defend my country over this. I won&#8217;t try to play it down. Trying to make it look like nothing bad or &#8220;exaggerated&#8221; is not the way to fight against it and make your country a better country!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: George</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-141614</link> <dc:creator>George</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 07:34:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-141614</guid> <description>I for one am pleased to read all of the above articulated responses to an ugly situation.My meager observation is that Alonso needs to state a response that condemns the track side actions of the bigots and zealots. Otherwise his silence will be assumed as support by the lunatic fringe that behaves this way. And it needs to be stronger than &quot;Some of those spectators are like animals.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one am pleased to read all of the above articulated responses to an ugly situation.</p><p>My meager observation is that Alonso needs to state a response that condemns the track side actions of the bigots and zealots. Otherwise his silence will be assumed as support by the lunatic fringe that behaves this way. And it needs to be stronger than &#8220;Some of those spectators are like animals.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Number 38</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-141573</link> <dc:creator>Number 38</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:31:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-141573</guid> <description>Hello Keith,
Have you ever had 71 reader responses on a MOTOR RACING  issue?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Keith,<br
/> Have you ever had 71 reader responses on a MOTOR RACING  issue?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Powerline 2008</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-141561</link> <dc:creator>Powerline 2008</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:53:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-141561</guid> <description>It&#039;s sad to see another sport victimized by bigots. Even sadder to read some here on this board supporting these bigots &amp; living in denial.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad to see another sport victimized by bigots. Even sadder to read some here on this board supporting these bigots &amp; living in denial.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: sidepodcast.com</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-141543</link> <dc:creator>sidepodcast.com</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:38:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-141543</guid> <description>&quot;Britain’s biggest selling newspaper&quot;which we all know is full of bunkum.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Britain’s biggest selling newspaper&#8221;</p><p>which we all know is full of bunkum.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: L</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-141538</link> <dc:creator>L</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:21:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-141538</guid> <description>In the article you comment on 21 they say that there was over 3500 people who insulted LH. But, I have to add something: Marca really exaggerates everything, so in this kind of things they aren&#039;t too much reliable.And, if you don&#039;t know, yes, there&#039;s racism in Spain, like everywhere else.The &#039;famous&#039; denounce of irregularities has a lot of things a bit silly and childish. But, there&#039;s some others that are completely true. Hamilton is hated, more than anything, because of Hungary problem. Surely it&#039;s media&#039;s fault, because they told very different things in England and in Spain.By the other hand, it&#039;s carnival in Spain. These are days of laughing about everything, and I mean everything. Believe me, these guys weren&#039;t the only ones wearing a costume. There was people whit McLaren costumes saying they were Alonso, and others were wearing disguises of clowns, dinosaurs,... In the circuit!Those ones whit the black make-up were just trying to make a joke. A Spanish journalist asked them and the answer was aproximately: &#039;We are Hamilton grandparents and we are here to support Alonso. LH will see that even his grandparents support FA&#039;. It wasn&#039;t said in a rude way. Maybe it wasn&#039;t too appropriate, but we can&#039;t crucify them because they don&#039;t know how a joke must be to be funny and not to be offensive.Moreover, people shouted &#039;f****** black&#039; the same way they shouted &#039;s** of b****&#039; (Marca says this too), and this last insult isn&#039;t racist. So they just wanted to express his hate to a disappointing partner for Alonso, not his hate to a black guy.In my opinion, the discussion here shouldn&#039;t be if racism must be tolerated in a sport (obviously not). The discussion should be if you must support a sportman or if you must hate &#039;his enemy&#039;.Just one last thing: Sorry for my English.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the article you comment on 21 they say that there was over 3500 people who insulted LH. But, I have to add something: Marca really exaggerates everything, so in this kind of things they aren&#8217;t too much reliable.</p><p>And, if you don&#8217;t know, yes, there&#8217;s racism in Spain, like everywhere else.</p><p>The &#8216;famous&#8217; denounce of irregularities has a lot of things a bit silly and childish. But, there&#8217;s some others that are completely true. Hamilton is hated, more than anything, because of Hungary problem. Surely it&#8217;s media&#8217;s fault, because they told very different things in England and in Spain.</p><p>By the other hand, it&#8217;s carnival in Spain. These are days of laughing about everything, and I mean everything. Believe me, these guys weren&#8217;t the only ones wearing a costume. There was people whit McLaren costumes saying they were Alonso, and others were wearing disguises of clowns, dinosaurs,&#8230; In the circuit!</p><p>Those ones whit the black make-up were just trying to make a joke. A Spanish journalist asked them and the answer was aproximately: &#8216;We are Hamilton grandparents and we are here to support Alonso. LH will see that even his grandparents support FA&#8217;. It wasn&#8217;t said in a rude way. Maybe it wasn&#8217;t too appropriate, but we can&#8217;t crucify them because they don&#8217;t know how a joke must be to be funny and not to be offensive.</p><p>Moreover, people shouted &#8216;f****** black&#8217; the same way they shouted &#8217;s** of b****&#8217; (Marca says this too), and this last insult isn&#8217;t racist. So they just wanted to express his hate to a disappointing partner for Alonso, not his hate to a black guy.</p><p>In my opinion, the discussion here shouldn&#8217;t be if racism must be tolerated in a sport (obviously not). The discussion should be if you must support a sportman or if you must hate &#8216;his enemy&#8217;.</p><p>Just one last thing: Sorry for my English.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: angler</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-141524</link> <dc:creator>angler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:44:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-141524</guid> <description>PS.  These are Hamilton&#039;s statements, reported by monstersandcritics:&#039;The truth is I feel somewhat sad. I love this country, especially the city of Barcelona. The people in Spain have always been very warm,&#039; said Hamilton.&#039;The only thing that I have done is to try to give the best of myself and try to win the championship. At no point have I tried to deliberately prejudice Fernando but the fight has been very tough and my image in Spain has been severely damaged.&#039;I&#039;m not sure about the &quot;deliberately prejudicing Fernando&quot; comment, especially considering the shots he took at him with the &quot;I know now how not to behave as a champion&quot; or whatever it was ...(I don&#039;t like Hamilton any more now than I ever did, by the way.)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS.  These are Hamilton&#8217;s statements, reported by monstersandcritics:</p><p>&#8216;The truth is I feel somewhat sad. I love this country, especially the city of Barcelona. The people in Spain have always been very warm,&#8217; said Hamilton.</p><p>&#8216;The only thing that I have done is to try to give the best of myself and try to win the championship. At no point have I tried to deliberately prejudice Fernando but the fight has been very tough and my image in Spain has been severely damaged.&#8217;</p><p>I&#8217;m not sure about the &#8220;deliberately prejudicing Fernando&#8221; comment, especially considering the shots he took at him with the &#8220;I know now how not to behave as a champion&#8221; or whatever it was &#8230;</p><p>(I don&#8217;t like Hamilton any more now than I ever did, by the way.)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: angler</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/comment-page-2/#comment-141523</link> <dc:creator>angler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:40:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/03/f1-must-take-a-stand-against-racism-now/#comment-141523</guid> <description>grin ... I agree, Wesley!  (There are many other reasons to dislike Hamilton, but your point is excellent!)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grin &#8230; I agree, Wesley!  (There are many other reasons to dislike Hamilton, but your point is excellent!)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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