Comments on: 2008: The new rules http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/ F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog with F1 news, pictures, video, comment and analysis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 07:29:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: oliver http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-146326 oliver Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:48:21 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/#comment-146326 How coulthard managed to turn stupid driving into a safety issue I will never understand. It wasn't that the side protection was too low, it was that he tried to carry out in impossible overtaking move. The raised sides were actually from protecting a drivers head from moving too far in crashes, and not from cars falling on you. How coulthard managed to turn stupid driving into a safety issue I will never understand. It wasn’t that the side protection was too low, it was that he tried to carry out in impossible overtaking move. The raised sides were actually from protecting a drivers head from moving too far in crashes, and not from cars falling on you.

]]> By: milos http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-146306 milos Tue, 26 Feb 2008 01:15:32 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/#comment-146306 The spare car restrictions is one of the rules not talked about that much, but it can be a rule that may decide championship ... Starting from a back of a grid after engine change still gives driver a chance to score some points. Not being able to start at all, hm ... Now imagine Kimi fighting for title and some mechanical failure causes a massive crash on Saturday morning. Will Ferrari sit him out or will they put him in Massa's car :-) . Whether this rule is justified or not is difficult to tell. Would be interesting to see how much money is it actually supposed to save. The "young driver" test rule and the penalty free first engine change are changes for better. I was wondering how come Red Bull could run with Robert Wickens a week or so ago in Singapore on the street, now I know The spare car restrictions is one of the rules not talked about that much, but it can be a rule that may decide championship … Starting from a back of a grid after engine change still gives driver a chance to score some points. Not being able to start at all, hm … Now imagine Kimi fighting for title and some mechanical failure causes a massive crash on Saturday morning. Will Ferrari sit him out or will they put him in Massa’s car :-) . Whether this rule is justified or not is difficult to tell. Would be interesting to see how much money is it actually supposed to save.

The “young driver” test rule and the penalty free first engine change are changes for better. I was wondering how come Red Bull could run with Robert Wickens a week or so ago in Singapore on the street, now I know

]]> By: Keith Collantine http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-146274 Keith Collantine Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:34:35 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/#comment-146274 Thanks Arnet. On your other point I hadn't realised until I saw the '08 cars the increased cockpit sides were going to be so large. They're a bit ugly... Thanks Arnet. On your other point I hadn’t realised until I saw the ’08 cars the increased cockpit sides were going to be so large. They’re a bit ugly…

]]> By: Arnet http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-146273 Arnet Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:32:33 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/#comment-146273 You have a very sharp point there, Keith. You have a very sharp point there, Keith.

]]> By: Keith Collantine http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-146272 Keith Collantine Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:25:15 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/#comment-146272 Just to clarify in case anyone isn't clear, the <a href="/2007/12/12/david-coulthard-this-is-another-senna-situation/" rel="nofollow">proposed ban on tyre warmers is for 2009</a>. I know some of the drivers have been very critical of it, and I'm reluctant to say they're wrong because of course they should know best. But when tyre warmers aren't allowed in other forms of motor racing, including the likes of the IRL where we're talking about cars which come closest to approximating F1 levels of performance, I don't understand why F1, where the drivers are supposed to be the best in the world, should have them? Just to clarify in case anyone isn’t clear, the proposed ban on tyre warmers is for 2009.

I know some of the drivers have been very critical of it, and I’m reluctant to say they’re wrong because of course they should know best.

But when tyre warmers aren’t allowed in other forms of motor racing, including the likes of the IRL where we’re talking about cars which come closest to approximating F1 levels of performance, I don’t understand why F1, where the drivers are supposed to be the best in the world, should have them?

]]> By: Arnet http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-146269 Arnet Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:13:57 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/#comment-146269 I think the raised sides is a knee-jerk reaction that may even cause more accidents due to reduced visibility. If you remember the accident that spurred the changes, the car above was literally above, not so much coming from the side-pod. But no team or driver will disagree with safety changes, so now we're stuck with them. The other change discussed for next year really worries me. Getting rid of tire-warmers is one of the most bone-headed ideas Max has ever come up with. I thought he was all about safety. Sending cars out on cold tires 3-4 times during a race is just plain mad and will also ruin the rhythm of the race with lap-times fluctuating by seconds depending on what part of a stint the driver is on. I know that the FIA claims that they "hear" the fans and that we want to see more overtaking, but I would rather see it happen as a result of drivers driving at the edge, truly racing each other, instead of passing happening because your rival had to pit and now he's 2 seconds a lap slower. I think the raised sides is a knee-jerk reaction that may even cause more accidents due to reduced visibility. If you remember the accident that spurred the changes, the car above was literally above, not so much coming from the side-pod. But no team or driver will disagree with safety changes, so now we’re stuck with them.

The other change discussed for next year really worries me. Getting rid of tire-warmers is one of the most bone-headed ideas Max has ever come up with. I thought he was all about safety. Sending cars out on cold tires 3-4 times during a race is just plain mad and will also ruin the rhythm of the race with lap-times fluctuating by seconds depending on what part of a stint the driver is on. I know that the FIA claims that they “hear” the fans and that we want to see more overtaking, but I would rather see it happen as a result of drivers driving at the edge, truly racing each other, instead of passing happening because your rival had to pit and now he’s 2 seconds a lap slower.

]]> By: Robert McKay http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-146267 Robert McKay Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:06:51 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/#comment-146267 I have to say a few of these rules seem to have gotten past under my radar. I wasn't overly aware of the 4-race gearbox (interesting it's only a 5 place penalty on the grid, and not ten like for the engine). The "ban" on spare cars as well. But like you say I can't remember the last time a race was redflagged and had a full proper restart. Spa 1998, the last one I definitely remember, though there's probably been one or two since (Spa 2001?). But that's as much because they are likely to SC it rather than restart. The young driver testing idea is pretty good, though. I have to say a few of these rules seem to have gotten past under my radar. I wasn’t overly aware of the 4-race gearbox (interesting it’s only a 5 place penalty on the grid, and not ten like for the engine). The “ban” on spare cars as well. But like you say I can’t remember the last time a race was redflagged and had a full proper restart. Spa 1998, the last one I definitely remember, though there’s probably been one or two since (Spa 2001?). But that’s as much because they are likely to SC it rather than restart.

The young driver testing idea is pretty good, though.

]]> By: Vertigo http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-146257 Vertigo Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:02:01 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/#comment-146257 I think red flags will probably still be very rare on the whole, but more regular during wet races as the drivers who aren't so comfortable without TC lose control and cause big accidents. This is the big problem with the loss of TC, as people like David Coulthard have said, but it's gone now, so the drivers are just going to have to deal with it. I think red flags will probably still be very rare on the whole, but more regular during wet races as the drivers who aren’t so comfortable without TC lose control and cause big accidents. This is the big problem with the loss of TC, as people like David Coulthard have said, but it’s gone now, so the drivers are just going to have to deal with it.

]]> By: Alex Andronov http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-146232 Alex Andronov Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:48:34 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/#comment-146232 by before - I meant recently by before – I meant recently

]]> By: Alex Andronov http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-146231 Alex Andronov Mon, 25 Feb 2008 17:48:01 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/02/25/2008-the-new-rules/#comment-146231 I agree that Red Flag situations have been rare before, but I wonder if they will be more common post the TC ban? I agree that Red Flag situations have been rare before, but I wonder if they will be more common post the TC ban?

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