Comments on: Why Max Mosley should resign

By: Ciro

Ciro — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 20:53:01 +0000

Well, actually, in the UK, S&M is unlawful. You cannot consent to be harmed, except in sports and similar activities. The ruling by Lord Justice Templeton in the famous Operation Spanner is clear:

"I am not prepared to invent a defence of consent for sadomasochistic encounters which breed and glorify cruelty [...]. Society is entitled and bound to protect itself against a cult of violence. Pleasure derived from the infliction of pain is an evil thing. Cruelty is uncivilized.
(R v Brown (1993) 2 All ER 75)"

There is not a mention of married couples in the sentece, that I know, but I’m not a lawyer. Anyway, you can read about it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Spanner

So, what Max did is illegal in UK and any of the hookers can sue him. I think that’s an untenable position, no matter what Mr. Mosley (who seems to be a poor lawyer, btw) says.

Actually, even filming S&M is illegal in England: in the Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill of 2007, the UK government used the Spanner case as justification for:

"..criminalising images of consensual acts, as part of its proposed criminalisation of possession of "extreme pornography".
(Brown [1994] 1 AC 212)"

So event NOTW can be prosecuted. I don’t think it’s politically feasible, but, hey, "dura lex, sed lex" (the law is hard but it is the law).

By: Rachel

Rachel — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:23:24 +0000

@ Joe Bloggs"@Don – I think you must be able to consent to bodily injury in the UK, otherwise all boxing matches would be unlawful. "
You can only consent to assault if it’s in the public interest, therefore lawful sports are fine. S&M is ok if between a married heterosexual couple. You can be prosecuted if you’re not married and/or gay- no cases yet on homosexual married couples, so the law isn’t sure on that bit.

By: Rachel

Rachel — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:19:51 +0000

@ Vertigo: "Mosley’s integrity" = an oymoron, surely..?

By: Journeyer

Journeyer — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:46:22 +0000

Dani, how can one govern without the trust of the people he governs? They don’t trust him anymore because of his actions and how insensitive he was by acting the way he did.

So how does one get around that?

By: ray m

ray m — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:41:31 +0000

in the words of murray, max go go go.
not a word from ferari yet.maybe a lot of shredding going on.

By: Dani

Dani — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:26:04 +0000

what happened to innocent untilproven guilty.
Max has a lot of enemies and a lot of haters least of which are Sir Jackie and Ron. let alone half the british population as they accuse him of demoting Hamilton’s championship chances last year.

However i am not convinced this has anything to do with a sex scandla rubbing off negatively on formula one… I think if Max’s fanatasy was to dress like a soldier and pretend to F arabs, no one would have commented.
This campaign is a racist campaign against Max fuelled by his enemies in the paddock.

Max did more harm to the sports through his new rules than he could ever do with this sex scandal, if there ever is one.

By: Oddball

Oddball — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:29:06 +0000

The letter from the Crown Prince of Bahrain:Dear Max, I was sorry to learn of the media stories which emerged on Sunday in the UK. In light of the allegations, I suspect you may be deliberating on your planned attendance at the Grand Prix here in Bahrain later in the week. I therefore felt it important to convey the position of Bahrain and its people. Clearly of paramount importance is the success of the event for all concerned - the Kingdom of Bahrain, Formula 1 and spectators. The focus quite rightly should be on the race. function pictureGalleryPopup(pubUrl,articleId) { var newWin = window.open(pubUrl+'template/2.0-0/element/pictureGalleryPopup.jsp?id='+articleId+'&&offset=0&§ionName=Formula1','mywindow','menubar=0,resizable=0,width=615,height=655'); } With great regret I feel that under the current circumstances, it would be inappropriate for you to be in Bahrain at this time. I don't want to add to the difficulties in which you find yourself, but I hope you understand the position we have taken. Yours sincerely, Shaikh Salman Bin Hamad Al-Khalifa Crown Prince of the Kingdom of Bahrain

By: GeorgeK

GeorgeK — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:32:22 +0000

The best is yet to come: The crown prince of Bahrain has written the old boy and basically told him he is personna non grata. If every country (your next King Juan Carlos) follows suit he will have no choice but to call it quits.

Put a fork in him, he’s done!

By: Steven Roy

Steven Roy — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:08:10 +0000

I would have thought anyone investigating his private life would have no difficulty following him and finding out his habits. Five young women in a £2million flat is bound to raise the curiosity of anyone following him. I don’t imagine that it would be difficult for the NOTW to speak to any of the people involved and tell them what they planned and offer them some money for access to hide cameras and to get them to point Max in the right direction. They would probably be amenable to being paid for access because either Max was a first time customer (unlikely) so they were no risking anything financially or he was a regular customer and they knew that they would be losing his business but would get a free advert along with the fee.

Clearly he has to go. He is an embarrassment to the FIA and to the sport. I expect he will go before Barcelona. To me just now he looks like Margaret Thatcher after her first leadership vote where she thought she had enough support to carry on but after consulting a few close associates discovered that she had no support whatever and people had not wanted to put the boot in in the first ballot.

By: Brar Soler

Brar Soler — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 00:00:28 +0000

The first scene of the film is Max arriving. What really bothers in that scene is that they knew he was coming. For this, It seems that it is not the first time he went there, and also for the rapidity with he opens the door handle of the gate and goes down the stairs quickly. He knews the place. Wy he didn`t used a hat dark eyeglasses or something more to be discreter? Only Freud explains that.