Comments on: Ron Dennis speaks, Max Mosley sues http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/ F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog with F1 news, pictures, video, comment and analysis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 11:56:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Fireblade http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/comment-page-3/#comment-160194 Fireblade Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:35:01 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/#comment-160194 -How strange some of these posts are....it is ok for everyone to have any kind of sexual fantasies and affairs....except Max Mosley -I read the link posted by "Ayrton Senna" and i have to admit that the article sheds light on some of the facts alot of tabloid/sensation papers did voluntary skip to enforce a certain point of view! -Nazi or non-nazi uniform...who cares....Versace was a gay and no one even thought to film him....who knows what kind of perversions he commited...which shows that both neutrality and objectivity are intentionally thrown overboard when needed! -What i do,with who I sleep/eat/drink/... and what religion i believe in is of no one's business.... -How strange some of these posts are….it is ok for everyone to have any kind of sexual fantasies and affairs….except Max Mosley
-I read the link posted by "Ayrton Senna" and i have to admit that the article sheds light on some of the facts alot of tabloid/sensation papers did voluntary skip to enforce a certain point of view!
-Nazi or non-nazi uniform…who cares….Versace was a gay and no one even thought to film him….who knows what kind of perversions he commited…which shows that both neutrality and objectivity are intentionally thrown overboard when needed!
-What i do,with who I sleep/eat/drink/… and what religion i believe in is of no one’s business….

]]> By: Steven Roy http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/comment-page-3/#comment-160172 Steven Roy Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:28:12 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/#comment-160172 Don't use Senna's name.  That is an insult. Rupert Murdoch is pro-Rupert Murdoch and nothing else.  The people who have seen the full 5 hour video have said there are Nazi uniforms.  Like the rest of us you have 90 seconds of that 5 hours available to you and have no clue what appears in it.  As I have said elsewhere for all we know 4 hours of it could be the Superbowl. It seems odd that you object to NOTW accusing Max of something he has done or at the very least he has done 95% of what they claim but you think it is OK for you to accuse Ron Dennis.  There is no evidence whatever Ron Dennis is involved and it never ceases to amaze me that everyone who accepts Max's side of any story totally ignores the evidence and is happy to form opinions in complete ignorance with no shred of evidence. Max threatened to sue The Times.  Anyone with any intelligence knew Murdoch would retaliate before the matter ever got to court. There are literally hundreds of people with good reasons to set Max up for something like this and Ron Dennis is only one.  It could just as easily be Nigel Stepney who until this week was supposed to be the only person leaking info from Maranello and who Max has sentenced on very weak evidence, or Flavio Briatore over the mass damper nonsense, Tony George for the loss of the GP at Indy, anyone from Barcelona or the Spanish NSA because of the racist allegations etc etc.  The only people who may have committed an offense are the people who filmed it and the newspaper that published it and it is unlikely that Ron Dennis was the hooker with the camera but don't let reality interfere with your views. Don’t use Senna’s name.  That is an insult.

Rupert Murdoch is pro-Rupert Murdoch and nothing else.  The people who have seen the full 5 hour video have said there are Nazi uniforms.  Like the rest of us you have 90 seconds of that 5 hours available to you and have no clue what appears in it.  As I have said elsewhere for all we know 4 hours of it could be the Superbowl.

It seems odd that you object to NOTW accusing Max of something he has done or at the very least he has done 95% of what they claim but you think it is OK for you to accuse Ron Dennis.  There is no evidence whatever Ron Dennis is involved and it never ceases to amaze me that everyone who accepts Max’s side of any story totally ignores the evidence and is happy to form opinions in complete ignorance with no shred of evidence.

Max threatened to sue The Times.  Anyone with any intelligence knew Murdoch would retaliate before the matter ever got to court.

There are literally hundreds of people with good reasons to set Max up for something like this and Ron Dennis is only one.  It could just as easily be Nigel Stepney who until this week was supposed to be the only person leaking info from Maranello and who Max has sentenced on very weak evidence, or Flavio Briatore over the mass damper nonsense, Tony George for the loss of the GP at Indy, anyone from Barcelona or the Spanish NSA because of the racist allegations etc etc. 

The only people who may have committed an offense are the people who filmed it and the newspaper that published it and it is unlikely that Ron Dennis was the hooker with the camera but don’t let reality interfere with your views.

]]> By: Alianora La Canta http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/comment-page-3/#comment-160160 Alianora La Canta Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:52:01 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/#comment-160160 News of the World isn't so much pro-Jewish as pro-controversy. I'm sure if they could have made up a link to al-Qaeda, the Royal Family and little green extra-terrestrials, they would have done, simply to put sales up. Doesn't necessarily mean their inferences were correct. I don't think Max should resign because of the allegations; I think he should resign because the consequences of the allegations are interfering with his ability to do his job. News of the World isn’t so much pro-Jewish as pro-controversy. I’m sure if they could have made up a link to al-Qaeda, the Royal Family and little green extra-terrestrials, they would have done, simply to put sales up. Doesn’t necessarily mean their inferences were correct.

I don’t think Max should resign because of the allegations; I think he should resign because the consequences of the allegations are interfering with his ability to do his job.

]]> By: Keith Collantine http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/comment-page-3/#comment-160157 Keith Collantine Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:43:47 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/#comment-160157 What gave you the idea the News of the World is a "pro-jewish organisation"? I haven't seen anything conclusively linking Dennis to what's happened. Your 'facts' are just opinions. The idea that everyone in Europe agrees on any single point, never mind the fraught questions of rights and liberties, is patently nonsense. And I don't believe you're Ayrton Senna either. What gave you the idea the News of the World is a "pro-jewish organisation"? I haven’t seen anything conclusively linking Dennis to what’s happened. Your ‘facts’ are just opinions.

The idea that everyone in Europe agrees on any single point, never mind the fraught questions of rights and liberties, is patently nonsense.

And I don’t believe you’re Ayrton Senna either.

]]> By: Ayrton Senna http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/comment-page-3/#comment-160154 Ayrton Senna Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:34:28 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/#comment-160154 Facts and rules: 1-Privacy is protected by the human rights act...so what the newspaper did was breaching the privacy of an individual 2-Europe always claims that the individual is free to do whatever he/she wants to as long as no one is hurt or discriminated 3-Who said that these are uniforms of Nazi shoulders?a pro-jewish organizations who label anything they dislike due to various reasons as anti-semitic? 4-Alot of countries allow prostitution....that is not Max Mosley's problem at all....that is the mistake of the liberal governments and legislations.... 5-Ron Dennis is linked to this scandal...and the investigations will prove that....at this point,Ron Dennis will have take the run-away train.... Facts and rules:
1-Privacy is protected by the human rights act…so what the newspaper did was breaching the privacy of an individual
2-Europe always claims that the individual is free to do whatever he/she wants to as long as no one is hurt or discriminated
3-Who said that these are uniforms of Nazi shoulders?a pro-jewish organizations who label anything they dislike due to various reasons as anti-semitic?
4-Alot of countries allow prostitution….that is not Max Mosley’s problem at all….that is the mistake of the liberal governments and legislations….
5-Ron Dennis is linked to this scandal…and the investigations will prove that….at this point,Ron Dennis will have take the run-away train….

]]> By: Carthik http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/comment-page-3/#comment-158645 Carthik Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:31:40 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/#comment-158645 It's funny how easily people say its Nazi themed and that he should resign! First of all, there were no symbols of any sort to indicate that... just military uniforms and girls dressed as prisoners! God knows how many people like to fantasize of their partners as the slave... well, that's just for fun! so what if he had girls dressed as prisoners!? They weren't forced to do so nor did he hurt anybody... IT WASN'T MEANT TO BE SEEN! That's the bottom line. If a cheap news company actually sent someone to tape it, well they should be blamed! it's just pathetic, the complete lack of sensitivity to another person's privacy. And other national motor sport federations should be smarter than this and think of everything he's done for the sport! It's really NO ONE's business what people do in their private lives as long as they aren't hurting anyone! It’s funny how easily people say its Nazi themed and that he should resign! First of all, there were no symbols of any sort to indicate that… just military uniforms and girls dressed as prisoners!
God knows how many people like to fantasize of their partners as the slave… well, that’s just for fun! so what if he had girls dressed as prisoners!? They weren’t forced to do so nor did he hurt anybody… IT WASN’T MEANT TO BE SEEN! That’s the bottom line.
If a cheap news company actually sent someone to tape it, well they should be blamed! it’s just pathetic, the complete lack of sensitivity to another person’s privacy.
And other national motor sport federations should be smarter than this and think of everything he’s done for the sport! It’s really NO ONE’s business what people do in their private lives as long as they aren’t hurting anyone!

]]> By: Steven Roy http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/comment-page-3/#comment-158084 Steven Roy Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:43:46 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/#comment-158084 No it is not against the law.  It is perfectly legal.  Soliciting is illegal.  Living off their earnings is illegal but a transaction between two or more people is perfectly legal. No it is not against the law.  It is perfectly legal.  Soliciting is illegal.  Living off their earnings is illegal but a transaction between two or more people is perfectly legal.

]]> By: DP http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/comment-page-3/#comment-158075 DP Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:56:04 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/#comment-158075 To all the people that reckon good old Max has done nothing wrong.  Isn't it against the law to employ prostitutes? or doesn't that apply if you happen to be a multi millionaire.? To all the people that reckon good old Max has done nothing wrong.  Isn’t it against the law to employ prostitutes? or doesn’t that apply if you happen to be a multi millionaire.?

]]> By: Samambaia de Plastico http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/comment-page-3/#comment-157777 Samambaia de Plastico Tue, 08 Apr 2008 09:40:12 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/#comment-157777 I am scared with the last developments of this case.I can understand that some don´t like Mosley and take advantage of it, but people such as Niki Lauda, Jackie Stewart or any other driver have no moral to criticize Max, in their heyday they did a lot more than him, the difference is nobody caught them on video...What is this suddenly wave of morality sweeping the globe?This "Big Brother" intruding on people lives between four walls?Beware, you can be next! I am scared with the last developments of this case.I can understand that some don´t like Mosley and take advantage of it, but people such as Niki Lauda, Jackie Stewart or any other driver have no moral to criticize Max, in their heyday they did a lot more than him, the difference is nobody caught them on video…What is this suddenly wave of morality sweeping the globe?This "Big Brother" intruding on people lives between four walls?Beware, you can be next!

]]> By: Marlon http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/comment-page-3/#comment-157699 Marlon Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:07:44 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/04/ron-dennis-speaks-max-mosley-sues/#comment-157699 Me too. Me too.

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