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> <channel><title>Comments on: Why Mosley should quit &#8211; in his words</title> <atom:link href="http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/</link> <description>F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog with F1 news, pictures, video, comment and analysis</description> <lastBuildDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:41:28 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Steven Roy</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/comment-page-1/#comment-160805</link> <dc:creator>Steven Roy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:47:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/#comment-160805</guid> <description>I think the VW and Porsche comments are entirely spurious.  Neither of them have the slightest intention of entering F1.  They simply want to be seen as politically correct.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the VW and Porsche comments are entirely spurious.  Neither of them have the slightest intention of entering F1.  They simply want to be seen as politically correct.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jingles</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/comment-page-1/#comment-160611</link> <dc:creator>Jingles</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:14:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/#comment-160611</guid> <description>The final nail in Mosley&#039;s coffin?http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66708</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The final nail in Mosley&#8217;s coffin?</p><p><a
href="http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66708" rel="nofollow">http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66708</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chas</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/comment-page-1/#comment-160604</link> <dc:creator>Chas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:36:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/#comment-160604</guid> <description>if Mosely is not ashamed of what he has been caught doing, and i&#039;m not saying he should be, then why did he not come clean about it beforehand.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if Mosely is not ashamed of what he has been caught doing, and i&#8217;m not saying he should be, then why did he not come clean about it beforehand.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/comment-page-1/#comment-160519</link> <dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:25:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/#comment-160519</guid> <description>This is a sad season for Formula 1 indeed - on one end, the sport is trying to come to grips with the ogre of racism for the first time while on the other, its top echelons are now associated with sexual perversity.  I am disappointed with the pronouncements of the UAE association for basing their support on the non-illegality of Mosley&#039;s perversions in the UK. Well, Mosley as citizen of the UK should rightly be legislated under the UK legal framework. However, Mosley as President of FIA is judged by the best practises of the countries over which he reigns. In most countries over which the FIA president executes command over motor sport matters, the kind of perversion that Max was involved in is illegal and morally distasteful. Since he is the president of the associations of those countries too, don&#039;t the cultural, moral and legal inclinations of the people of those countries matter too to how he conducts himself?  What would happen if for example he was from Zimbabwe where it is legal to grab property from one person just because you are in the ruling class and he is not, and say he grabbed some $300million from FIA un-procedurally on the understanding that back home he is in the ruling class and therefore legally entitled to do so? Would his many supporters still be arguing that such an act was right just because in his mother country it is so? Or that it was done in privacy and therefore he should not be exposed?   By nature many wrong things are private and that does not shield the offenders from moral and legal penalties. Rape and paedophilia are the more obvious examples that come to mind. Indeed in some countries some of these activities are not illegal e.g. paedophilia is not illegal in many Asian and African countries - but that does not mean that the practitioners should be shielded from moral judgement when they are caught.   After all, laws are often provoked by reactionary moral anger at vile activities that were outside the legal radar at the time of taking place. That of Mosley falls into this last category. We hope that in the future, many countries will illegalize these perversions.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a sad season for Formula 1 indeed &#8211; on one end, the sport is trying to come to grips with the ogre of racism for the first time while on the other, its top echelons are now associated with sexual perversity.  I am disappointed with the pronouncements of the UAE association for basing their support on the non-illegality of Mosley&#8217;s perversions in the UK. Well, Mosley as citizen of the UK should rightly be legislated under the UK legal framework. However, Mosley as President of FIA is judged by the best practises of the countries over which he reigns. In most countries over which the FIA president executes command over motor sport matters, the kind of perversion that Max was involved in is illegal and morally distasteful. Since he is the president of the associations of those countries too, don&#8217;t the cultural, moral and legal inclinations of the people of those countries matter too to how he conducts himself?  What would happen if for example he was from Zimbabwe where it is legal to grab property from one person just because you are in the ruling class and he is not, and say he grabbed some $300million from FIA un-procedurally on the understanding that back home he is in the ruling class and therefore legally entitled to do so? Would his many supporters still be arguing that such an act was right just because in his mother country it is so? Or that it was done in privacy and therefore he should not be exposed?   By nature many wrong things are private and that does not shield the offenders from moral and legal penalties. Rape and paedophilia are the more obvious examples that come to mind. Indeed in some countries some of these activities are not illegal e.g. paedophilia is not illegal in many Asian and African countries &#8211; but that does not mean that the practitioners should be shielded from moral judgement when they are caught.   After all, laws are often provoked by reactionary moral anger at vile activities that were outside the legal radar at the time of taking place. That of Mosley falls into this last category. We hope that in the future, many countries will illegalize these perversions.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Steven Roy</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/comment-page-1/#comment-159813</link> <dc:creator>Steven Roy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:51:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/#comment-159813</guid> <description>NOTW have said they will send DVDs with the full 5 hours to every member who has a vote to prove there are Nazi connotations. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOTW have said they will send DVDs with the full 5 hours to every member who has a vote to prove there are Nazi connotations. </p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Oliver</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/comment-page-1/#comment-159770</link> <dc:creator>Oliver</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 06:47:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/#comment-159770</guid> <description>Come June 5, i expect TNOW to have headlines and vids depicting Mosley&#039;s actions so those voting are reminded of the candidates for that position. In my opinion, the person showing his age here, is Bernie. If he can not advice Mosley to leave then I&#039;m sure they both have a pact to ensure F1 is brought to ruins as they don not have very long to effectively run the circus.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come June 5, i expect TNOW to have headlines and vids depicting Mosley&#8217;s actions so those voting are reminded of the candidates for that position. In my opinion, the person showing his age here, is Bernie. If he can not advice Mosley to leave then I&#8217;m sure they both have a pact to ensure F1 is brought to ruins as they don not have very long to effectively run the circus.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith Collantine</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/comment-page-1/#comment-159610</link> <dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:51:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/#comment-159610</guid> <description>That&#039;s an excellent point about the information on the McLaren drivers Steven.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an excellent point about the information on the McLaren drivers Steven.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Steven Roy</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/comment-page-1/#comment-159609</link> <dc:creator>Steven Roy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:42:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/#comment-159609</guid> <description>I have no doubt there are a stack of quotes like this that could be used against Max as he seems unable to think of the consequences of what he says beyond the next ten minutes.  His comments in the wake of the McLaren fine are almost exactly the opposite of his comments after the Renault case.McLaren have several items they can&#039;t touch this year because information was contained in the Ferrari dossier.  At the same time Renault (and a number of other teams) are openly building J-dampers which are a straight rip off from the McLaren info on the Renault servers.Last week a comment was circulated round a few websites which contained a quote from Max on the famous McLaren driver text messages.  The gist of the quote was that it didn&#039;t matter how the information became available to the FIA; legal or not.  What mattered was the content of the information and that the information was genuine and not forged.  Makes you wonder why the FIA is meeting on June 3rd to discuss the invasion of Max&#039;s privacy rather than the content of the videos and newspaper stories since how it was obtained; legal or not is unimportant.Typical petty arisocrat.  One rule for them and another for the rest.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no doubt there are a stack of quotes like this that could be used against Max as he seems unable to think of the consequences of what he says beyond the next ten minutes.  His comments in the wake of the McLaren fine are almost exactly the opposite of his comments after the Renault case.</p><p>McLaren have several items they can&#8217;t touch this year because information was contained in the Ferrari dossier.  At the same time Renault (and a number of other teams) are openly building J-dampers which are a straight rip off from the McLaren info on the Renault servers.</p><p>Last week a comment was circulated round a few websites which contained a quote from Max on the famous McLaren driver text messages.  The gist of the quote was that it didn&#8217;t matter how the information became available to the FIA; legal or not.  What mattered was the content of the information and that the information was genuine and not forged.  Makes you wonder why the FIA is meeting on June 3rd to discuss the invasion of Max&#8217;s privacy rather than the content of the videos and newspaper stories since how it was obtained; legal or not is unimportant.</p><p>Typical petty arisocrat.  One rule for them and another for the rest.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Mark</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/comment-page-1/#comment-159308</link> <dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:32:48 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/#comment-159308</guid> <description>This casts me back to the days when we used to love Jacques! When he was still cool.I agree with everyone else on the planet, time for Max to go.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This casts me back to the days when we used to love Jacques! When he was still cool.</p><p>I agree with everyone else on the planet, time for Max to go.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith Collantine</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/comment-page-1/#comment-159303</link> <dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:27:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/#comment-159303</guid> <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66632&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hill has said something similar to the quote today&lt;/a&gt;.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66632" rel="nofollow">Hill has said something similar to the quote today</a>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: F1-Insider</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/comment-page-1/#comment-159300</link> <dc:creator>F1-Insider</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:36:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/#comment-159300</guid> <description>The bottom line is that Mosley is an arse.  The man is only concerned about himself or finishing off his personal vendettas.To those that have followed F1 for years. we in no doubt whatsoever that the FIA is corrupt and has a rotten stink to it.I would like to see countries simply leave the FIA and start over. In light of the Mosley scandal maybe we will see it after Mosley has rigged the vote in his favour - fingers crossed for a new dawn.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line is that Mosley is an arse.  The man is only concerned about himself or finishing off his personal vendettas.</p><p>To those that have followed F1 for years. we in no doubt whatsoever that the FIA is corrupt and has a rotten stink to it.</p><p>I would like to see countries simply leave the FIA and start over. In light of the Mosley scandal maybe we will see it after Mosley has rigged the vote in his favour &#8211; fingers crossed for a new dawn.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Craig</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/comment-page-1/#comment-159296</link> <dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:33:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/#comment-159296</guid> <description>I&#039;d imagine Mosley would counter by insisting what he did was nothing to do with F1 - Villeneuve was being interviewed about F1, so not only was his quote in the public domain it was actually about the sport.What Max did (or was accused of at least) was away from, and nothing to do with, racing.Not that I really want to stick up for him, but I can imagine that&#039;s what he would say!  Of course any negative story about a driver or high profile official is going to have an effect on F1 - especially when it&#039;s the man at the top - so I still think he should go, but I won&#039;t hold my breath!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d imagine Mosley would counter by insisting what he did was nothing to do with F1 &#8211; Villeneuve was being interviewed about F1, so not only was his quote in the public domain it was actually about the sport.</p><p>What Max did (or was accused of at least) was away from, and nothing to do with, racing.</p><p>Not that I really want to stick up for him, but I can imagine that&#8217;s what he would say!  Of course any negative story about a driver or high profile official is going to have an effect on F1 &#8211; especially when it&#8217;s the man at the top &#8211; so I still think he should go, but I won&#8217;t hold my breath!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DanielPT</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/comment-page-1/#comment-159294</link> <dc:creator>DanielPT</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 08:15:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/14/why-mosley-should-quit-in-his-words/#comment-159294</guid> <description>Mosley is like many others in a high position:
&quot;Do what i say, don&#039;t do what i do.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mosley is like many others in a high position:<br
/> &quot;Do what i say, don&#8217;t do what i do.&quot;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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