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	<title>Comments on: Rate the race: Spanish Grand Prix</title>
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		<title>By: Ronan</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/04/27/rate-the-race-spanish-grand-prix/comment-page-2/#comment-163305</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the overall standard of racing this year has been very poor. There&#039;s been some good strategy battles and exciting performances from BMW and in Spain Renault, but I think there has been a real lack of wheel to wheel stuff especially amongst the top drivers.  Obviously F1 the elements of technology, strategy and being a showcase for the manufacturers are important but I think they should really take second place to competition on the track.  Roll on 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the overall standard of racing this year has been very poor. There&#8217;s been some good strategy battles and exciting performances from BMW and in Spain Renault, but I think there has been a real lack of wheel to wheel stuff especially amongst the top drivers.  Obviously F1 the elements of technology, strategy and being a showcase for the manufacturers are important but I think they should really take second place to competition on the track.  Roll on 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Rabi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sumedh I am not saying the current cars will not make for decent racing but when they arrive on aerodynamic intensive tracks such as Catalunya in perfect weather you will never get any on-track action ever happening.

Certain tracks are just like that and whilst I&#039;ve found the Spanish Grand Prix boring - for several years - the fact doesn&#039;t change in that the aero packages are making it difficult for the chasing car to effectively catch the car in front unless it has a superior advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sumedh I am not saying the current cars will not make for decent racing but when they arrive on aerodynamic intensive tracks such as Catalunya in perfect weather you will never get any on-track action ever happening.</p>
<p>Certain tracks are just like that and whilst I&#8217;ve found the Spanish Grand Prix boring &#8211; for several years &#8211; the fact doesn&#8217;t change in that the aero packages are making it difficult for the chasing car to effectively catch the car in front unless it has a superior advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Collantine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sumedh I have to say I think you are completely wrong.

I was watching in the Senna-Prost years and the simple fact is that cars were less aerodynamically efficient 20 years ago which meant they could run closer together. Look how close the cars could get to each other even at tracks like the Hungaroring or Catalunya. The 1989 and 1990 Hungarian Grands Prix were fantastic.

Since I first started watching F1 in &#039;89 it has become increasingly difficult for the cars to follow each other closely. It is not a question of making a knee-jerk reaction based on a single race - it&#039;s been like this for years. &lt;a href=&quot;../../28/2008-spanish-gp-facts-and-stats/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;As I pointed out in the statistics review, the last eight Spanish Grands Prix have all been won from pole&lt;/a&gt;. It is absolutely nothing to do with difference in driver skill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sumedh I have to say I think you are completely wrong.</p>
<p>I was watching in the Senna-Prost years and the simple fact is that cars were less aerodynamically efficient 20 years ago which meant they could run closer together. Look how close the cars could get to each other even at tracks like the Hungaroring or Catalunya. The 1989 and 1990 Hungarian Grands Prix were fantastic.</p>
<p>Since I first started watching F1 in &#8217;89 it has become increasingly difficult for the cars to follow each other closely. It is not a question of making a knee-jerk reaction based on a single race &#8211; it&#8217;s been like this for years. <a href="../../28/2008-spanish-gp-facts-and-stats/" rel="nofollow">As I pointed out in the statistics review, the last eight Spanish Grands Prix have all been won from pole</a>. It is absolutely nothing to do with difference in driver skill.</p>
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		<title>By: Sumedh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sumedh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 09:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rabi,

All the on-track battles, Senna-Prost, Schumi-Mika, Schumi-Alonso would have been there even in today&#039;s cars. The reason we saw such brilliant battles in the past is not inferior cars, but superior drivers. Apart from Fernando and (probably)Kimi &amp; Lewis, none of the drivers are good enough with or without the &#039;dirty air&#039;.

And, do not over-react after just 1 race! Let Renault improve another tenth, and let there be a Kimi-Lewis on the first row. I am sure, you will see the best racing in this season.

2009 aerodynamics are going to be much more simpler, so let this season pass off, we are going to have &#039;pure racing&#039; next season anyways. But, IMO, it won&#039;t change anything, reason : inferior drivers compared to yesteryears</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabi,</p>
<p>All the on-track battles, Senna-Prost, Schumi-Mika, Schumi-Alonso would have been there even in today&#8217;s cars. The reason we saw such brilliant battles in the past is not inferior cars, but superior drivers. Apart from Fernando and (probably)Kimi &amp; Lewis, none of the drivers are good enough with or without the &#8216;dirty air&#8217;.</p>
<p>And, do not over-react after just 1 race! Let Renault improve another tenth, and let there be a Kimi-Lewis on the first row. I am sure, you will see the best racing in this season.</p>
<p>2009 aerodynamics are going to be much more simpler, so let this season pass off, we are going to have &#8216;pure racing&#8217; next season anyways. But, IMO, it won&#8217;t change anything, reason : inferior drivers compared to yesteryears</p>
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		<title>By: Rabi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sumedh I&#039;m sorry but F1 should be about the racing and not a display of aerodynamic technology. Things were much better before without this aero nonsense. Whereas now what do we have? Absolute boring races where each car is ugly to look at AND they can&#039;t overtake because of &#039;dirty air&#039;. 
 
Think about it would Villeneuve had held of 5 other cars in the Spanish Grand Prix in the current car? Would we have had the great wheel banging moment in Dijon between Gilles and Rene? Would Senna in inferior machinery been able to beat out Mansell in the same excitement and fashion? Or any of those fantastic Senna/Prost/Mansell/Piquet battles.
 
 The answer would be no. And the solution is to take away the aerodynamics nonsense, unfreeze the engines, bring back the slicks and let another tyre manufacturer back in and allow customer chassis (one customer per manufacturer limit).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sumedh I&#8217;m sorry but F1 should be about the racing and not a display of aerodynamic technology. Things were much better before without this aero nonsense. Whereas now what do we have? Absolute boring races where each car is ugly to look at AND they can&#8217;t overtake because of &#8216;dirty air&#8217;. </p>
<p>Think about it would Villeneuve had held of 5 other cars in the Spanish Grand Prix in the current car? Would we have had the great wheel banging moment in Dijon between Gilles and Rene? Would Senna in inferior machinery been able to beat out Mansell in the same excitement and fashion? Or any of those fantastic Senna/Prost/Mansell/Piquet battles.</p>
<p> The answer would be no. And the solution is to take away the aerodynamics nonsense, unfreeze the engines, bring back the slicks and let another tyre manufacturer back in and allow customer chassis (one customer per manufacturer limit).</p>
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		<title>By: Arnet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hardly call the minor tweaks to the cars this year monumental.&quot; Effort, time, energy and money are being wasted on these aerodynamic accessories that could be spent better elsewhere. Mosley&#039;s typically boneheaded decree to freeze engine development instead of urging them to become more fuel efficient would go a long way to advancing road-car development than nostrils and ears on a race-car. Research into many other areas could benefit road cars, but the results of millions of dollars and untold amounts of electricity spent on wind-tunnels and massive computers will realistically never be sen in your BMW.

Racing has always been made more exciting by the brilliant leaps of imagination of the likes of Gordon Murray, who were able to be creative in a less restricted formula. In today&#039;s Mosley affected era, we see cars that have been turned into aerodynamic specialists, overdeveloped to drive fast in their little air bubble, but unable to do much when in disturbed air. Hopefully next year will bring some much wanted change in that area, with aero restrictions and slick tires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hardly call the minor tweaks to the cars this year monumental.&quot; Effort, time, energy and money are being wasted on these aerodynamic accessories that could be spent better elsewhere. Mosley&#8217;s typically boneheaded decree to freeze engine development instead of urging them to become more fuel efficient would go a long way to advancing road-car development than nostrils and ears on a race-car. Research into many other areas could benefit road cars, but the results of millions of dollars and untold amounts of electricity spent on wind-tunnels and massive computers will realistically never be sen in your BMW.</p>
<p>Racing has always been made more exciting by the brilliant leaps of imagination of the likes of Gordon Murray, who were able to be creative in a less restricted formula. In today&#8217;s Mosley affected era, we see cars that have been turned into aerodynamic specialists, overdeveloped to drive fast in their little air bubble, but unable to do much when in disturbed air. Hopefully next year will bring some much wanted change in that area, with aero restrictions and slick tires.</p>
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		<title>By: Number 38</title>
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		<dc:creator>Number 38</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 23:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Want more passing?  Did anyone watch the NASCAR race at Talladaga today?  Something like 28 lead changes, 17 different leaders, FOUR abreast racing and for a change no big crashes,
 it was real racing. Three times the distance, cars twice the weight of an F1 car and running at 200 mph  and no Micky Mouse closed pit lane penalties !  When we F1  fans rate our race as dull, tedious or boring NASCAR fans rate their race 
 as great or fantastic.  It&#039;s time for the FIA to re-write the regs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Want more passing?  Did anyone watch the NASCAR race at Talladaga today?  Something like 28 lead changes, 17 different leaders, FOUR abreast racing and for a change no big crashes,<br />
 it was real racing. Three times the distance, cars twice the weight of an F1 car and running at 200 mph  and no Micky Mouse closed pit lane penalties !  When we F1  fans rate our race as dull, tedious or boring NASCAR fans rate their race<br />
 as great or fantastic.  It&#8217;s time for the FIA to re-write the regs.</p>
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		<title>By: Sumedh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sumedh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith, Robert

I agree we need to strike a mean between technology and racing. My point here is that in the last 2 seasons, the technical improvements brought about various teams have been pretty monumental. I think we have seen more radical improvements over 2007 -08 than in the 4-5 years preceding them put together (Longer wheelbase, bridge wing, shark-fin covers, various types of ears and horns ;), and now holes in the nose). So,IMO, it would be wrong to abandon these improvements.

What I would love is artificial rain being created on the circuits. This will reduce the importance of the &#039;racing line&#039; allowing drivers to experiment more with the track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith, Robert</p>
<p>I agree we need to strike a mean between technology and racing. My point here is that in the last 2 seasons, the technical improvements brought about various teams have been pretty monumental. I think we have seen more radical improvements over 2007 -08 than in the 4-5 years preceding them put together (Longer wheelbase, bridge wing, shark-fin covers, various types of ears and horns <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> , and now holes in the nose). So,IMO, it would be wrong to abandon these improvements.</p>
<p>What I would love is artificial rain being created on the circuits. This will reduce the importance of the &#8216;racing line&#8217; allowing drivers to experiment more with the track.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeK</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best part of the race? Seeing the King of Spain on the podium and Max Mosley no where in sight! I have no doubt that the King sent Max a back door message not to bother coming this weekend, hence his &quot;visit&quot; to Jordan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best part of the race? Seeing the King of Spain on the podium and Max Mosley no where in sight! I have no doubt that the King sent Max a back door message not to bother coming this weekend, hence his &quot;visit&quot; to Jordan.</p>
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		<title>By: 420</title>
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		<dc:creator>420</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 16:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if it wasnt for the mass retirements, this race would have been the definition of a procession.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if it wasnt for the mass retirements, this race would have been the definition of a procession.</p>
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