Super Aguri barred from Istanbul track – are Honda killing their B-team?

Posted on | Author Keith Collantine

Honda, Barcelona, 2008, 470150, 2

According to reports a Super Aguri transporter has been barred from getting into the paddock at Istanbul. Autosport claims this is because the team will not be racing next weekend.

Honda team principal Nick Fry told the magazine he does not believe the Weigl Group, who recently made a bid for the team, are able to support it.

Fry is believed to want to get rid of the team because he does not want to spend any more money on it. Honda spent $200,000 on ensuring the team was able to compete in the Spanish Grand Prix after a previous attempt by Magma Group to save the team collapse.

As has been discussed before on this site before it seems the manufacturers who jumped at the opportunity to set up ‘B teams’ a few years ago when it appeared customer cars were going to become legal are now dropping them as customer cars will not be allowed. Red Bull owner Dietrich Mateschitz is also trying to sell his second team Toro Rosso.

Without Takuma Sato and Anthony Davidson on the F1 grid will be down to just 20 cars, which is believed to be the minimum number Bernie Ecclestone is contracted to bring to Grands Prix. If another team were to disappear, three-car teams might be permitted in order to fill up the grid.

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  1. Very sad for Super Aguri, I agree. Especially when a rival CEO can ring FOM and get them banned. Maybe McLaren could try this to get rid of Ferrari for a race? I know that if I were Sir Frank, I’d be getting rid of Renault, Red Bull and Toyota quick-smart! Three phone calls and you get rid of the competition!

    Is it even legal for Fry to do this?

    Sush, I think Nick Fry’s “lovely smile” might be what’s called a ****-eating grin, lol.

  2. Honda is killing this team. Why not transfer responsibility to another company since its already a loss making venture for them. Debt can always be paid back over time, but that can only happen when you are still afloat.

  3. Journeyer
    5th May 2008, 8:19

    Oliver, Honda’s strategy is to get Aguri sold on their terms. Honda want most or all of the cash upfront. If Aguri can’t sell themselves, then Honda will do it for them. Aguri is concerned about time, but Honda is concerned about the cash.

  4. It is really sad the way Honda is behaving. How can they stop one team from entering into the circuit. It is not very healthy sign for the sport and giving negative impression on the teams. Super Aguri is a small team and impressed a lot even in the 1st race.

    Again due to the bans it is very less likely any potential buyer would actually come and invest. The reason is very simple customer cars. Super Aguri team would not be supported any more due to the bans and Honda does not want to be beaten by the B team again and again.

  5. According to Pitpass a meeting on the team’s future will take place either today or tomorrow.

  6. Lady Snowcat
    5th May 2008, 10:05

    I think you’ll find Honda haven’t told people not to let them in, rather they’ve told FOM and Bernie that they won’t underwrite or supply Super A anymore…

    Without a Honda guarantee, which was given to let them in at Barcelona, Bernie won’t let them play…

    Honda had to say no sometime….

    Super A were meant to be self sufficient long before this…. instead they owe Honda multi millions… and have no funds to go forward…

    And they don’t own their factory…they lease it….

  7. But what business has FOM got with a team’s finances? If a team can show up at a Granprix venue why should they not be allowed to compete?

  8. if I’m not mistaken don’t teams have to pay an entry fee for every race? That fee I think also includes the hiring of the paddocks etc as well. I could be wrong but I think that’s the case.

  9. It is down to situations like this that I don’t like teams ‘cloning’ themselves out like this. It is a simular situation with Red Bull and Toro Rosso. I also don’t like the fact that teams can be allowed to sell other teams their engines, Toyota and Ferrari spring to mind, as I feel this lessens the competition factor.
    If Toyota supply Williams with engines, then in essence, Williams is just a Toyota B team, ripe for blackmailing if Williams beat them on track as Super Aguri did Honda.
    This is getting beyond a joke. To think of all the great teams we once had, teams with personalty and vision, teams like Ligier, Jordan, Brabham, Sauber.
    Now all with have is faceless corporations, men in suits, who are only interested in selling people new Accords and Civics and know bugger all about motor racing. Time to take another Prozac I think!

  10. Weren’t Sauber a Ferrari B-Team? Monza ’03 springs to mind….

  11. p.s. Sorry about the s and the t Keith.

  12. If your looking to blame someone in the Honda F1 camp for pulling the funding out from SA look no further than Ross Brawn, he’d want every available dollar to go to his team, there are large expectations on his back.

    Reportedly it only cost Honda 200K to fund SA at Barcelona; chump change IMHO. Sure, Turkey will cost a bit more due to extended travel, but how much more?

    Not enough to shut the team down. To extract the best deal they can from Weigl, and to have him expose his true financial backers Honda have to APPEAR willing to kill off the team.

    Hardball negotiating at the last minute. SA will race this Sunday.

  13. Exactly what Honda should realise is the complete negative publicity against their team at the moment even if they aren’t responsible to the average fan they are responsible.

  14. this just in

    over to Keith with the sports.

    sad day indeed.

  15. Journeyer
    6th May 2008, 9:42

    Well, Rabi, I think Honda are beyond caring about their negative publicity now. They seem to be more concerned with the money…

    What a sad day for F1. Back to 20 cars in a year we were hoping for 24.

  16. Thanks for the tip Sush: Super Aguri leave Formula 1

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