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		<title>By: Clive</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith and Number 38: Can I be the referee?  ;)

As for Kimi, he&#039;ll retire when he wants to.  And that could be anytime between now and, oh, about 2018...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith and Number 38: Can I be the referee?  <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for Kimi, he&#8217;ll retire when he wants to.  And that could be anytime between now and, oh, about 2018&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melaine: Massa made a terrible mistake at the start in Melbourne, but what actually made him retire was an engine failure, so, he had his bit of misfortune already, I just hope it doesn&#039;t repeat this season!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melaine: Massa made a terrible mistake at the start in Melbourne, but what actually made him retire was an engine failure, so, he had his bit of misfortune already, I just hope it doesn&#8217;t repeat this season!</p>
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		<title>By: Rabi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rabi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 11:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and the fact that he&#039;s only 29!

As for Massa he is too inconsistent, more likely to crack under pressure (although that can change) and not to great in adverse weather conditions.

However he is in the right car to win this championship so I would never rule him out for being able to piece together a season full of great weather, a lot of luck and a lot of wins on his &quot;Massa&quot; tracks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and the fact that he&#8217;s only 29!</p>
<p>As for Massa he is too inconsistent, more likely to crack under pressure (although that can change) and not to great in adverse weather conditions.</p>
<p>However he is in the right car to win this championship so I would never rule him out for being able to piece together a season full of great weather, a lot of luck and a lot of wins on his &#8220;Massa&#8221; tracks.</p>
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		<title>By: sChUmAcHeRtHeGrEaTeStEvEr</title>
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		<dc:creator>sChUmAcHeRtHeGrEaTeStEvEr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 07:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with people who say massa is too inconsistent. out of the five races so far 3 of them have been on tracks where massa has performed well normally. spain,bahrain and turkey, and all his points have come in them races. if we see him starting challenging for wins in places like silverstone, spa monza then only then would i consider him to be a real contnender for the tittle. until then i think hes just a lightening fast teamate to raikkonen who on his day (generally specific circuits on boiling hot days starting from pole) can beat kimi. this will cost kimi points and who knows maybe even another tittle.

how true are the rumours about kimi retiring then
?? seems odd to me as id say right now hes the best in the field</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with people who say massa is too inconsistent. out of the five races so far 3 of them have been on tracks where massa has performed well normally. spain,bahrain and turkey, and all his points have come in them races. if we see him starting challenging for wins in places like silverstone, spa monza then only then would i consider him to be a real contnender for the tittle. until then i think hes just a lightening fast teamate to raikkonen who on his day (generally specific circuits on boiling hot days starting from pole) can beat kimi. this will cost kimi points and who knows maybe even another tittle.</p>
<p>how true are the rumours about kimi retiring then<br />
?? seems odd to me as id say right now hes the best in the field</p>
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		<title>By: the limit</title>
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		<dc:creator>the limit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 03:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to laugh at Peter Windsor interviewing Kimi Raikkonen after the race. &#039;Well Kimi, despite your broken front wing you still managed to set fastest lap&#039;, that was met with the typical Kimi grin. LOL.
 Back to Felipe Massa. I think he is a contender for the championship, which is an obvious thing to say after today&#039;s performance, but the real test will be under adverse conditions.
 Massa&#039;s chief rivals, Hamilton and Raikkonen, are both very cool customers and very composed in wet and slippery conditions, like Lewis at Fuji and Kimi in Shanghai for example. In the past, Massa has struggled in these instances, highlighted perfectly in last years Nurburgring battle with Alonso.
 To become a champion, you must be able to handle adversity and pressure. Massa is at his best when he is out front, in clean air, unpestered by anybody.
 Hamilton proved today, as Alonso did in Germany, that when Massa is put under pressure, he is the more likely Ferrari driver to crack.
 That maybe harsh, but its true. If Massa can begin to handle those situations a little better, when he is under the cosh, then he is in with a serious chance.
 Remember Alonso at Imola back in 2005, with a charging
Schumacher on his transmission, and how Fernando kept his nerve and the points. Massa will, without doubt, have to go through that to be champion.
 He has the raw speed and the horsepower, I see no reason why he cannot mount a title challenge!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to laugh at Peter Windsor interviewing Kimi Raikkonen after the race. &#8216;Well Kimi, despite your broken front wing you still managed to set fastest lap&#8217;, that was met with the typical Kimi grin. LOL.<br />
 Back to Felipe Massa. I think he is a contender for the championship, which is an obvious thing to say after today&#8217;s performance, but the real test will be under adverse conditions.<br />
 Massa&#8217;s chief rivals, Hamilton and Raikkonen, are both very cool customers and very composed in wet and slippery conditions, like Lewis at Fuji and Kimi in Shanghai for example. In the past, Massa has struggled in these instances, highlighted perfectly in last years Nurburgring battle with Alonso.<br />
 To become a champion, you must be able to handle adversity and pressure. Massa is at his best when he is out front, in clean air, unpestered by anybody.<br />
 Hamilton proved today, as Alonso did in Germany, that when Massa is put under pressure, he is the more likely Ferrari driver to crack.<br />
 That maybe harsh, but its true. If Massa can begin to handle those situations a little better, when he is under the cosh, then he is in with a serious chance.<br />
 Remember Alonso at Imola back in 2005, with a charging<br />
Schumacher on his transmission, and how Fernando kept his nerve and the points. Massa will, without doubt, have to go through that to be champion.<br />
 He has the raw speed and the horsepower, I see no reason why he cannot mount a title challenge!</p>
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		<title>By: Haplo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haplo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 01:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love to say this: I told you so.

Since malaysia i&#039;ve been telling you every time is the same with Massa, he takes a couple of races to get with things, and what do you know, he&#039;s back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love to say this: I told you so.</p>
<p>Since malaysia i&#8217;ve been telling you every time is the same with Massa, he takes a couple of races to get with things, and what do you know, he&#8217;s back.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Collantine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 22:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#38... it&#039;s like we&#039;re talking different languages. &quot;Not true, Kimi’s the one with the ‘fastest car’&quot; - I know that you know they both drive Ferraris, so what point are you trying to make? Do you think Ferrari give Raikkonen a faster car?

As far as I&#039;m concerned the difference between Massa and Raikkonen in the points standings is purely down to the Raikkonen&#039;s better performances on balance over the first five races of the year, do you not agree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#38&#8230; it&#8217;s like we&#8217;re talking different languages. &#8220;Not true, Kimi’s the one with the ‘fastest car’&#8221; &#8211; I know that you know they both drive Ferraris, so what point are you trying to make? Do you think Ferrari give Raikkonen a faster car?</p>
<p>As far as I&#8217;m concerned the difference between Massa and Raikkonen in the points standings is purely down to the Raikkonen&#8217;s better performances on balance over the first five races of the year, do you not agree?</p>
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		<title>By: Harkirat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harkirat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 21:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Number 38, two chest thumps to you, and don&#039;t you ever think that you are alone in supporting Felipe. That said, I understand most of the people over here going out of their way to deride him, and support Lewis, Kimi, Robert, or Fernando instead of him. it always seems to be a human tendency to support people who prove themselves to be, in a word &quot;superhuman&quot;.

And that, is what is most endearing about Felipe for me, he is unlike the illustrious people mentioned above, Human. He is faulted, fallible, imperfect, and above all, emotional. In many ways Felipe represents most of us, even those who detract him, humans. In a recent post, when Keith had asked for the best championship that Schumi ever won, I remember most of the people settling for 2000, and if you look at it, it is simply because that was the most &quot;human&quot; victory ever. it wasn&#039;t about the best car on the grid that just needed the best driver. It was about persistence and determination, qualities that Felipe seems to have oodles of.

Yes, he is not a born champion. Yes, he is lucky to have a Ferrari under him. Yes, he sucks in the rain. But, he is one driver (Giancarlo also comes to mind) who is probably working the hardest to prove himself. Not only that, he also seems to be the hungriest (as opposed to desperate; read Lewis and Fernando here) to win the championship this year.

Apart from this, any team bringing in Fernando has to understand that the other driver can&#039;t be as quick as him. Ferrari was probably OK with that in Schumi&#039;s days, but Schumi had proven himself after 5 years of hard work, to earn the number one status. On the face of it, in terms of pace, I think Felipe and Kimi are evenly matched (yes, I can hear screams of foul murder), and unless and until Kimi wins this year&#039;s championship by outclassing Felipe (as opposed to Felipe doing it to himself), I don&#039;t see Kimi getting the number one status. From the looks of it, it still seems to be fair game at Ferrari, and giving the number 1 status to Fernando, because he WAS two time world champion, two years ago, doesn&#039;t make sense. 

My hunch for Fernando as of now is that Jarno will once again get dumped to make way for Fernanado. I really like Jarno, and I hope it doesn&#039;t happen. But then Jarno, like Felipe, is also human, and given the amount of support that &quot;humans&quot; seem to get these days, I guess Number 38 and I would be the only ones left giving two Chest thumps to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Number 38, two chest thumps to you, and don&#8217;t you ever think that you are alone in supporting Felipe. That said, I understand most of the people over here going out of their way to deride him, and support Lewis, Kimi, Robert, or Fernando instead of him. it always seems to be a human tendency to support people who prove themselves to be, in a word &#8220;superhuman&#8221;.</p>
<p>And that, is what is most endearing about Felipe for me, he is unlike the illustrious people mentioned above, Human. He is faulted, fallible, imperfect, and above all, emotional. In many ways Felipe represents most of us, even those who detract him, humans. In a recent post, when Keith had asked for the best championship that Schumi ever won, I remember most of the people settling for 2000, and if you look at it, it is simply because that was the most &#8220;human&#8221; victory ever. it wasn&#8217;t about the best car on the grid that just needed the best driver. It was about persistence and determination, qualities that Felipe seems to have oodles of.</p>
<p>Yes, he is not a born champion. Yes, he is lucky to have a Ferrari under him. Yes, he sucks in the rain. But, he is one driver (Giancarlo also comes to mind) who is probably working the hardest to prove himself. Not only that, he also seems to be the hungriest (as opposed to desperate; read Lewis and Fernando here) to win the championship this year.</p>
<p>Apart from this, any team bringing in Fernando has to understand that the other driver can&#8217;t be as quick as him. Ferrari was probably OK with that in Schumi&#8217;s days, but Schumi had proven himself after 5 years of hard work, to earn the number one status. On the face of it, in terms of pace, I think Felipe and Kimi are evenly matched (yes, I can hear screams of foul murder), and unless and until Kimi wins this year&#8217;s championship by outclassing Felipe (as opposed to Felipe doing it to himself), I don&#8217;t see Kimi getting the number one status. From the looks of it, it still seems to be fair game at Ferrari, and giving the number 1 status to Fernando, because he WAS two time world champion, two years ago, doesn&#8217;t make sense. </p>
<p>My hunch for Fernando as of now is that Jarno will once again get dumped to make way for Fernanado. I really like Jarno, and I hope it doesn&#8217;t happen. But then Jarno, like Felipe, is also human, and given the amount of support that &#8220;humans&#8221; seem to get these days, I guess Number 38 and I would be the only ones left giving two Chest thumps to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Snowcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Snowcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Massa does great from pole on the circuits he loves...don&#039;t forget he beat Michael fair and square at Istanbul...

Kimi doesn&#039;t have such circuits?... but he does....his is the ultimate drivers circuit...Spa...

Massa has done OK but I&#039;ll bet that if Kimi doesn&#039;t make the same mistake of last year (and he won&#039;t but I won&#039;t bore you with why right now) he&#039;ll be far superior in Monaco... and then we start to head into a group of races where he was mega last year...

Massa had three wins last year... Bahrain, Barce and Turkey and we&#039;ve been to all three... and he has only two wins...

Kimi had Oz, France, Silverstone, Spa, China and Interlagos... and we&#039;ve been to one and he&#039;s won at two he didn&#039;t win at last year...

There&#039;s still a way to go but if you were Kimi would you be worried about Massa... I don&#039;t think so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Massa does great from pole on the circuits he loves&#8230;don&#8217;t forget he beat Michael fair and square at Istanbul&#8230;</p>
<p>Kimi doesn&#8217;t have such circuits?&#8230; but he does&#8230;.his is the ultimate drivers circuit&#8230;Spa&#8230;</p>
<p>Massa has done OK but I&#8217;ll bet that if Kimi doesn&#8217;t make the same mistake of last year (and he won&#8217;t but I won&#8217;t bore you with why right now) he&#8217;ll be far superior in Monaco&#8230; and then we start to head into a group of races where he was mega last year&#8230;</p>
<p>Massa had three wins last year&#8230; Bahrain, Barce and Turkey and we&#8217;ve been to all three&#8230; and he has only two wins&#8230;</p>
<p>Kimi had Oz, France, Silverstone, Spa, China and Interlagos&#8230; and we&#8217;ve been to one and he&#8217;s won at two he didn&#8217;t win at last year&#8230;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s still a way to go but if you were Kimi would you be worried about Massa&#8230; I don&#8217;t think so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Number 38: .” Not true, Kimi’s the one with the ‘fastest car’ and three fastest laps and two poles to prove it.&quot;


Hmm, in the first place Kimi has had one pole position and two fastest laps so far. Kimi and Massa drives the same cars, so how exactly does only Kimi have the fastest car? By your logic Massa actually had the fastest car so far because he has scored two pole positions (more then anyone else;-)

And how do you know Kimi wouldn&#039;t have done the same for Massa if he was in the same position? I&#039;am sure Kimi would have done the same.

If you really review the year so far, I&#039;am sure you will be able to see that Massa doesn&#039;t get treated like the second driver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Number 38: .” Not true, Kimi’s the one with the ‘fastest car’ and three fastest laps and two poles to prove it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmm, in the first place Kimi has had one pole position and two fastest laps so far. Kimi and Massa drives the same cars, so how exactly does only Kimi have the fastest car? By your logic Massa actually had the fastest car so far because he has scored two pole positions (more then anyone else;-)</p>
<p>And how do you know Kimi wouldn&#8217;t have done the same for Massa if he was in the same position? I&#8217;am sure Kimi would have done the same.</p>
<p>If you really review the year so far, I&#8217;am sure you will be able to see that Massa doesn&#8217;t get treated like the second driver.</p>
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