Comments on: 2008 Turkish Grand Prix notes

By: Number 38

Number 38 — Mon, 19 May 2008 14:24:48 +0000

There are other views on EVERY maneouver ….. one might suggest Massa let Hamilton pass as by then Ferrari knew Hammy was on a three stop plan, wasting time and fuel trying to block him would have been counter-productive.
It was more important for Massa to stay on HIS plan than alter it to fight Hamilton. These chats are always fun but so many “IFs”; if Kova, if Kimi, if Massa had spun out…..if Hamilton had the pole. The truth is F1 is in the doldrums right now, all too often the race is won on Saturday in Q3. Robert McKay (#3 above) summed it up:
“then that really is quite a horrific indictment on the sport.” His remark was aimed at passing but applies to Q3 also. F1 in general has evolved into this state, it’s probably going to take a MAJOR change to restore real racing to the event.

By: Keith Collantine

Keith Collantine — Mon, 19 May 2008 08:10:42 +0000

Oliver – I’m sure it does, but I don’t think that changes my point. Massa, Kovalainen and Raikkonen all did a much better job by getting closer to their race pace in Q3 than Hamilton did.

By: Oliver

Oliver — Mon, 19 May 2008 07:20:46 +0000

But Keith, didn’t Mclaren come out to say, they were forced to make camber and tyre pressure changes to the car in order that there is a guarantee it runs safely? Wont that have an effect on the handling of the car especially during qualifying?

By: Daniel

Daniel — Sun, 18 May 2008 20:09:13 +0000

Oh, and I presume he’s not counting overtaking just after the start until the first corner…

By: Daniel

Daniel — Sun, 18 May 2008 20:07:16 +0000

And, like Keith pointed out, that pass only happened because Hamilton was one second per lap faster than Massa at the time, and the move didn’t decide the winner…

Still, It’s been almost three years since an overtaking in a dry race decided the winner!

By: Pete Walker

Pete Walker — Sun, 18 May 2008 19:09:52 +0000

They’re talking about passes for the lead during dry races, Sush.

I’m with Robert McKay on this one. I knew the situation was bad but to read its been two and a half years is shocking. Fingers crossed the 09 tech regs work the magic we’re hoping for.

By: Sush

Sush — Sun, 18 May 2008 18:05:49 +0000

Cheers Daniel, sorry guys! i’ll pay better attention next time.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Sun, 18 May 2008 17:33:47 +0000

Sush: he meant a pass for the lead in a dry race, which was not the case of Nurburgring

By: Evenstar Saima

Evenstar Saima — Sun, 18 May 2008 17:33:03 +0000

The last pass for the lead before was during last year’s grand prix at the Nurburgring, Alonso (McLaren) overtook Massa (Ferrari) to take the win. Who can forget that little argument they had behind the podium LOL

By: Sush

Sush — Sun, 18 May 2008 17:00:56 +0000

pass for lead?, 2007 Nurburgring …. Alonso against Massa, 5 or 6 laps before finish.