Max Mosley wins FIA vote of confidence

Posted on | Author Keith Collantine

Max Mosley has won the vote of confidence in him is FIA President.

Before the votes were cast in the FIA extraordinary general meeting it was calculated that he needed at least 89 of 177 available votes to win (45 of the 222 clubs were judged ineligible to vote).

He won with 103 votes to 55, with seven abstentions and four invalid votes. Further updates below.

With so much opposition to him having come out in public, not least from Bernie Ecclestone and many of the largest automobile clubs that comprise the FIA membership, it remains to be seen whether there will be further attempts to remove him from office.

In a poll on this website 81% of readers wanted Mosley to step down over the sex scandal.

Update: the ramifications of the vote are already being felt. The German motoring body ADAC, the largest in Europe, has announced it is suspending all activities relating to the FIA until Mosley steps down. More here. The American Automobile Association is expected to make an announcement shortly.

88 comments on “Max Mosley wins FIA vote of confidence”

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  1. Scott Joslin
    3rd June 2008, 17:16

    What an anti cli-MAX! Why can’t this thing just go away!

    Green Flag – Pot Kettle and all that. I sense a bit of Hysteria in your comments also you are implying that you are righteous enough suggest we are all hysterical and deluded on this site. We are all allowed to pass comment on Max’s position through such a medium the same as max is allow to express himself in his funny little activities without damaging his credibility.

    With some of the big motoring associations threatening to leave, I wonder if we are going to be facing a new powers struggle in the sport?

  2. Congratulations Mr. Mosley!
    I am very happy that you have won the confidence vote….What happens in your private life is of no ones business….especially in a so-called 1st world society.

  3. I was deliberately not mentioning the ‘transparency’ issue in case it was deemed ‘hysterical’.

    Good point Sush, it appeared to me that not long after he said everything would be transparent, nobody could find out about anything at all!

  4. I think here’s a point most people are missing: most of the people who want Max to go are not asking him to leave because of his ACTUAL actions, but rather because of the consequences of us discovering those actions. He is no longer able to command respect both inside and outside of the FIA. He is no longer able to dispense his actual duties, leaving almost all the work to his VPs, while he hides away or goes to dates in court. And as a result the FIA will not run properly if their leader is always questioned.

    Just my two cents worth.

  5. So far he was prevented from attending Bahrain, Spain and Turkey. He was back at Monte Carlo (where anything goes) but was excluded from official functions.

    He is the face of the F-1 and is not welcome at F-1 events …

    Not good for the sport, that’s for sure.

  6. Question is that IF there is a mass withdrawal of the large auto organisations how much pressure would then be placed on the manufacturers? For instance if the second German motoring organisation pulls out what of Mercedes, Porsche, BMW and Audi – can they legally pull out of all the series they are involved in?

  7. I don’t understand how this is different from the McLaren scandal. McLaren were not convicted of stealing information, but for damaging the sport.

    I thought that is what was being voted on today as well, seeing if Max damaged the FiA. Its not a matter of what he did was illegal or not (it could be argued that Ron Dennis was not aware of the Ferrari information, and thus did nothing illegal) but how much he damaged the sport.

    If Ron damaged the sport, then Max must have also damaged it, case closed. If nothing else he owes the FiA 100 million dollars.

  8. WELL DONE MAX! GOOD ON YA! (i never thought i’d say that?) I could write a stinging vitriol on UK tabloids but can’t be bothered. They’re not worth it.

  9. theRoswellite
    3rd June 2008, 18:15

    HD7 here……….

    No one wants my opinion, but if they do….just read “Journeyer”, or “underdog” above…..

    …as the a Polish poet once wrote….”life is a pain factory!”

  10. Robert McKay
    3rd June 2008, 19:54

    I think the REAL question most of us want answered now is “is there any chance this story will just lay down and die and give us all peace?”. Answers on a postcard.

  11. Dan M, of course this is slightly different to the McLaren scandal, no one threatened to quit over that. And no one did quit.

    but this, now ADAC have quit, and AAA will do too.

    I say its put the sport into even MORE disrepute.

  12. At This night at FIA headquarters… The Big party! The Whipping noise already can be heard…

  13. Ummmm…big party, ok… with some leather dressed guests?
    Seems to be fun!!

  14. HD-Some-Random-Number here. There are already consequences of Max’s actions – Germany has suspended its international co-operation until a replacement leader is found and elected and America is considering following suit. America has a leader (in Robert Darblenet) who has sufficient respect among his fellows that he could lead a secession if he wanted to. I doubt it will be in the next month or so, but I can see that ether a full secession or a quiet rebellion will be present before the summer ends.

    Expect Max to have an extremely uncomfortable year or so (starting from whenever the rebellion gains traction) before being voted out in the full 2009 election.

  15. Robert, I would answer NO. But you can’t put a postcard on the internet very easily.

  16. Green Flag, Max may well be the best person to lead the FIA till next year – I don’t know enough about the politics or about potential replacements to argue against Max on this basis. For the record, I accept the vote for what it was and hope that whatever happens henceforth is for the good of F1 and motor racing in general.

    Your charaterisation of others as hysterical seems a bit hypocritical to me, however. In particular, your labelling of others as ‘biased’ got me thinking. What *exactly* do you mean by ‘biased’?

  17. Green Flag
    4th June 2008, 0:21

    Keith, what you call “thoughtful and well-argued contributions” are largely the confused ramblings and muddled thinking borne of mass self-righteousness, moral indignation, and, yes, hysterical animosity towards Mosley. Do I disagree with them? Of course, and thus far events support my stand. The majority is seldom right, merely noisy. Max is 68 years old and will likely retire before he’s seventy, on his own terms and when he decides the time is right. After devoting much of his life to motorsport at the highest level – a contribution few of his detractors can claim, certainly none on this blog – this seems, at least to me, fair and proper. I think, Keith, that it’s time for you to calm your many readers and have them focus on the sport itself – the cars, drivers, races – and the rest of what promises to be a great F1 season.

  18. Green Flag
    4th June 2008, 0:52

    Spodo, you surprise me with your ability to be rational; well done. As to your assertion that I’m hypocritical, in what way? That I don’t like anyone being hounded or bullied from office by mob action? That I’ve wavered in my support of Mosley in that I believe Nazism was not involved in his admittedly ill-considered afternoon pastime? That I believe Max has done a darn good job as FIA president and deserves to decide himself when he retires? As to “biased”, you’ll find the answer in my earlier post, # 57.

  19. Given that Max has already put in a last-minute rule change on the bridge wings that gives Ferrari, BMW and Force India a clear advantage over their immediate rivals for no good reason, I think he is already acting in contravention to Green Flag’s hopes. Max was a good president, but isn’t acting like a good president now and hasn’t for about five years.

  20. Green Flag
    4th June 2008, 1:15

    Alianora – I haven’t had a chance to study the bridge-wing ruling but I’ve always thought that its inherent design is prone to flexing – it’s a very long, narrow, thin unsupported element in a critical airflow area – which would be in contravention of the rules. If Ferrari and BMW – 2 of the top 3 teams – can do without the bridge-wing so can the others.

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