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		<title>By: Arnet</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/17/new-f1-racing-vs-old-f1-racing/comment-page-2/#comment-179306</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally got my hands on a copy of the new magazine, and I&#039;ve got to say it&#039;s nothing short of crap. Is it actually to be taken seriously as a provider of information to the fan, or is it now just a tabloid, dragged down to the lowest common denominator? Who was the idiot who decided that all titles had to be bolder, dumber and followed by exclamation marks? The &quot;FERRARI COCKPITS THROUGH THE AGES&quot; title page requires reading at arm&#039;s length.

It&#039;s a tabloid now, a lad mag in drag. What&#039;s next, top 100 hundred sex tips from F1 drivers? The cover of Lewis Hamilton is so badly &quot;airbrushed&quot; that it makes one wonder if he ever stood in front of a camera at all. And the picture captions? They&#039;re British for God&#039;s sake. Isn&#039;t there anyone there with a real sense of humour?

The only positive that I can find is that the Race Report has been renamed after it&#039;s author. Ugh. it was dying before, I&#039;m thinking it was just taken off life-support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally got my hands on a copy of the new magazine, and I&#8217;ve got to say it&#8217;s nothing short of crap. Is it actually to be taken seriously as a provider of information to the fan, or is it now just a tabloid, dragged down to the lowest common denominator? Who was the idiot who decided that all titles had to be bolder, dumber and followed by exclamation marks? The &#8220;FERRARI COCKPITS THROUGH THE AGES&#8221; title page requires reading at arm&#8217;s length.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tabloid now, a lad mag in drag. What&#8217;s next, top 100 hundred sex tips from F1 drivers? The cover of Lewis Hamilton is so badly &#8220;airbrushed&#8221; that it makes one wonder if he ever stood in front of a camera at all. And the picture captions? They&#8217;re British for God&#8217;s sake. Isn&#8217;t there anyone there with a real sense of humour?</p>
<p>The only positive that I can find is that the Race Report has been renamed after it&#8217;s author. Ugh. it was dying before, I&#8217;m thinking it was just taken off life-support.</p>
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		<title>By: SK</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/17/new-f1-racing-vs-old-f1-racing/comment-page-2/#comment-174538</link>
		<dc:creator>SK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Change is generally a good thing, but in this case it has been done in a crass and artless manner.  A skillful re-boot of the magazine would have kept the hardcore F1 fans onboard whilst pulling in (and educating) the casual punters.

All this new look does is desperately try to be the Hello of the F1 world, no doubt spurred on by all the new Lewis Hamilton &#039;Fans&#039; (ie people who will have no interest in F1 in a few years/months time once Hamilton mania dies down).

I am ex-subscriber - but after this new look launch - I am now an ex-reader too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change is generally a good thing, but in this case it has been done in a crass and artless manner.  A skillful re-boot of the magazine would have kept the hardcore F1 fans onboard whilst pulling in (and educating) the casual punters.</p>
<p>All this new look does is desperately try to be the Hello of the F1 world, no doubt spurred on by all the new Lewis Hamilton &#8216;Fans&#8217; (ie people who will have no interest in F1 in a few years/months time once Hamilton mania dies down).</p>
<p>I am ex-subscriber &#8211; but after this new look launch &#8211; I am now an ex-reader too.</p>
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		<title>By: Alianora La Canta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alianora La Canta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m quite mixed about the changes in F1 Racing, and I&#039;m not sure which of those feelings will win out yet. I do know that I&#039;ll be sticking with it for the foreseeable future. Partly this is because of the price difference compared to Motor Sport or Autosport on a regular basis (the former works out over £1 an issue dearer - long story - and the latter, being weekly, is considerably more). Partly it is due to its F1 focus; the only other motor sport I&#039;m sufficiently interested in to be in the market for a &lt;i&gt;regular&lt;/i&gt; magazine is MotoGP, and no magazines in the UK do F1 and MotoGP together.

I can forgive Lewis being on the front cover (and the interview itself, because I&#039;ve never heard Lewis give an exciting interview). For one thing, it&#039;s the British Grand Prix build-up and F1 Racing always has a focus on what it perceives to be the &quot;Best of British&quot; for that issue. Secondly, it&#039;s tough being a mid-market magazine and sometimes compromises have to be made. Also, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/05/20/f1-racing-to-recovery/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stuart Codling (the deputy editor) went to Sidepodcast.com and explained why it was going to happen&lt;/a&gt;. It&#039;s rare that sort of explanation is forthcoming, and it deserves some sort of kudos.

I find Peter Windsor educative but frustrating. He&#039;s very good at explaining stuff no other writer considers writing about, but he also has a habit of assuming stuff (statements prefaced with &quot;Of course...&quot; often turn out to be debatable) and writing false dilemmas, which mar the impression. His reports are good as far as they go, but I still miss (the original) F1 Magazine&#039;s approach of having one page for every team plus a quick summary and stats.

Good:
- The cover is better - since more stories get mentioned, I find it easier to find the issue I want to find a given item of information
- Murray Walker&#039;s been recruited (and been given lots of space)
- The interviews are different to before; even the questions on tired subjects seem to be asked a different way
- A wider variety of topics (this is a big plus for me)

Bad:
- The loss of the stats and other analytical section seriously reduce the news section&#039;s utility in forum discussions - it&#039;s amazing how many times some stats from F1 Racing has helped to settle a forum argument
- Eddie Jordan&#039;s been dropped
- There seems to be more emphasis on the pictures (attractive for some people, but I buy magazines for the writing)
- The removal of the explanations between questions (though some linking stuff remains between sections, so the situation could be considerably worse)

The overall impression is that this is F1 Racing circa March 2001, plus a shiny border on the cover and minus some of the attempted humour.

mJohnHurt, maybe the &quot;car elbow&quot; Kimi was buying was to defend himself against future collisions by errant rivals...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m quite mixed about the changes in F1 Racing, and I&#8217;m not sure which of those feelings will win out yet. I do know that I&#8217;ll be sticking with it for the foreseeable future. Partly this is because of the price difference compared to Motor Sport or Autosport on a regular basis (the former works out over £1 an issue dearer &#8211; long story &#8211; and the latter, being weekly, is considerably more). Partly it is due to its F1 focus; the only other motor sport I&#8217;m sufficiently interested in to be in the market for a <i>regular</i> magazine is MotoGP, and no magazines in the UK do F1 and MotoGP together.</p>
<p>I can forgive Lewis being on the front cover (and the interview itself, because I&#8217;ve never heard Lewis give an exciting interview). For one thing, it&#8217;s the British Grand Prix build-up and F1 Racing always has a focus on what it perceives to be the &#8220;Best of British&#8221; for that issue. Secondly, it&#8217;s tough being a mid-market magazine and sometimes compromises have to be made. Also, <a href="http://www.sidepodcast.com/2008/05/20/f1-racing-to-recovery/" rel="nofollow">Stuart Codling (the deputy editor) went to Sidepodcast.com and explained why it was going to happen</a>. It&#8217;s rare that sort of explanation is forthcoming, and it deserves some sort of kudos.</p>
<p>I find Peter Windsor educative but frustrating. He&#8217;s very good at explaining stuff no other writer considers writing about, but he also has a habit of assuming stuff (statements prefaced with &#8220;Of course&#8230;&#8221; often turn out to be debatable) and writing false dilemmas, which mar the impression. His reports are good as far as they go, but I still miss (the original) F1 Magazine&#8217;s approach of having one page for every team plus a quick summary and stats.</p>
<p>Good:<br />
- The cover is better &#8211; since more stories get mentioned, I find it easier to find the issue I want to find a given item of information<br />
- Murray Walker&#8217;s been recruited (and been given lots of space)<br />
- The interviews are different to before; even the questions on tired subjects seem to be asked a different way<br />
- A wider variety of topics (this is a big plus for me)</p>
<p>Bad:<br />
- The loss of the stats and other analytical section seriously reduce the news section&#8217;s utility in forum discussions &#8211; it&#8217;s amazing how many times some stats from F1 Racing has helped to settle a forum argument<br />
- Eddie Jordan&#8217;s been dropped<br />
- There seems to be more emphasis on the pictures (attractive for some people, but I buy magazines for the writing)<br />
- The removal of the explanations between questions (though some linking stuff remains between sections, so the situation could be considerably worse)</p>
<p>The overall impression is that this is F1 Racing circa March 2001, plus a shiny border on the cover and minus some of the attempted humour.</p>
<p>mJohnHurt, maybe the &#8220;car elbow&#8221; Kimi was buying was to defend himself against future collisions by errant rivals&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How utterly boring was the Hamilton interview (main feature) in the latest issue of F1 Racing? Bored me stiff and I blame this squarely on the interviewer. Some dull questions that were being asked this time last year about the trappings of fame and the pressures of his hectic schedule... yawn.

I&#039;ll give it a couple of months before considering putting a stop to my subscription.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How utterly boring was the Hamilton interview (main feature) in the latest issue of F1 Racing? Bored me stiff and I blame this squarely on the interviewer. Some dull questions that were being asked this time last year about the trappings of fame and the pressures of his hectic schedule&#8230; yawn.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give it a couple of months before considering putting a stop to my subscription.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Fabulous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Fabulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3 Reasons why I don&#039;t read F1 Racing anymore/

3. They pretend that F1 racing is just brilliant and won&#039;t accecpt that dull processions where we all watch Kimi tool around behind Felipe for 20 laps, nail him in the pits and take the win, isn&#039;t a hollow situation. 

2. Peter Windsor&#039;s head disappeared up his backside 7 years ago. sChUmAcHeRtHeGrEaTeStEvEr hit the nail on his head, his writing is very arrogant and he won&#039;t admit he is wrong.

1. Every Piece of news that they print has been published digested, analysed and superseded on the internet before it gets to print.

And finally, 
Eddie Jordan has been discredited as a man, a businessman and as a F1 boss. Sentiment is the only reason why he wasn&#039;t run out of town, Andrea Moda style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 Reasons why I don&#8217;t read F1 Racing anymore/</p>
<p>3. They pretend that F1 racing is just brilliant and won&#8217;t accecpt that dull processions where we all watch Kimi tool around behind Felipe for 20 laps, nail him in the pits and take the win, isn&#8217;t a hollow situation. </p>
<p>2. Peter Windsor&#8217;s head disappeared up his backside 7 years ago. sChUmAcHeRtHeGrEaTeStEvEr hit the nail on his head, his writing is very arrogant and he won&#8217;t admit he is wrong.</p>
<p>1. Every Piece of news that they print has been published digested, analysed and superseded on the internet before it gets to print.</p>
<p>And finally,<br />
Eddie Jordan has been discredited as a man, a businessman and as a F1 boss. Sentiment is the only reason why he wasn&#8217;t run out of town, Andrea Moda style.</p>
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		<title>By: F1Wolf</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/17/new-f1-racing-vs-old-f1-racing/comment-page-2/#comment-172322</link>
		<dc:creator>F1Wolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen the new issue yet, we only get it here by the end of the month or even later :-(

but based on the pictures you published here, the new layout and design has very tabloid like feeling ... can&#039;t say I like that ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the new issue yet, we only get it here by the end of the month or even later <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>but based on the pictures you published here, the new layout and design has very tabloid like feeling &#8230; can&#8217;t say I like that &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sush</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/17/new-f1-racing-vs-old-f1-racing/comment-page-2/#comment-172256</link>
		<dc:creator>Sush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>motion carried.

Keith, begin your takeover of future house publishing now.

downside, you&#039;ll be working even harder.
plus side, you wont have to look at our comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>motion carried.</p>
<p>Keith, begin your takeover of future house publishing now.</p>
<p>downside, you&#8217;ll be working even harder.<br />
plus side, you wont have to look at our comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Huntley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Huntley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For any fan who wants more than a screaming headline, Motorsport is a better choice.  Yes, it&#039;s got NASCAR and some other stuff but when it comes to F1, there is more depth and meat to their articles than an entire issue of F1 Racing.  

I have been picking up F1 Racing for almost a decade - until this year.  One issue of Motorsport with Nigel Roebuck and I was sold. Never going back.

Personally I don&#039;t enjoy Peter Windsor&#039;s writing - it&#039;s incredibly arrogant and self serving.  I have a lot more respect for people who can admit when they are wrong.

Losing Eddie Jordan won&#039;t hurt F1 Racing at all but too little too late for this fan.

Sorry, obviously I got up on the wrong side of the bed Keith - your topic choice today really unleashed some animosity towards the printed press.  Perhaps a fan based mag is in order!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For any fan who wants more than a screaming headline, Motorsport is a better choice.  Yes, it&#8217;s got NASCAR and some other stuff but when it comes to F1, there is more depth and meat to their articles than an entire issue of F1 Racing.  </p>
<p>I have been picking up F1 Racing for almost a decade &#8211; until this year.  One issue of Motorsport with Nigel Roebuck and I was sold. Never going back.</p>
<p>Personally I don&#8217;t enjoy Peter Windsor&#8217;s writing &#8211; it&#8217;s incredibly arrogant and self serving.  I have a lot more respect for people who can admit when they are wrong.</p>
<p>Losing Eddie Jordan won&#8217;t hurt F1 Racing at all but too little too late for this fan.</p>
<p>Sorry, obviously I got up on the wrong side of the bed Keith &#8211; your topic choice today really unleashed some animosity towards the printed press.  Perhaps a fan based mag is in order!</p>
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		<title>By: Architrion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Architrion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I buy that idea.... sounds great. I&#039;m sure anybody here has some valuable points that would turn Peter Windsor&#039;s chronicles into some kind of children story. I have a single idea about F1 Racing. I like F1 because I like what it is: a very complex world where drivers and technology play its part. I want in depth coverage about technical solutions, development, tactical issues and drivers abilities. If I can&#039;t find that stuff inside this each time more donwhilled magazine it worths nothing to me. Easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I buy that idea&#8230;. sounds great. I&#8217;m sure anybody here has some valuable points that would turn Peter Windsor&#8217;s chronicles into some kind of children story. I have a single idea about F1 Racing. I like F1 because I like what it is: a very complex world where drivers and technology play its part. I want in depth coverage about technical solutions, development, tactical issues and drivers abilities. If I can&#8217;t find that stuff inside this each time more donwhilled magazine it worths nothing to me. Easy.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert McKay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 17:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maybe the solution is a new magazine of the shelves - F1Fanatic. 
Written by enthusiasts, for enthusiasts!
Now we just need a bunch of paddock passes…&quot;

Now THAT&#039;S an idea! :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe the solution is a new magazine of the shelves &#8211; F1Fanatic.<br />
Written by enthusiasts, for enthusiasts!<br />
Now we just need a bunch of paddock passes…&#8221;</p>
<p>Now THAT&#8217;S an idea! <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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