Comments on: David Coulthard: the driver debates http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/23/the-driver-debates-david-coulthard/ F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog with F1 news, pictures, video, comment and analysis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:11:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chalky http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/23/the-driver-debates-david-coulthard/comment-page-3/#comment-175281 Chalky Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:22:12 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=7149#comment-175281 He's retiring. :( http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/drivers/7487186.stm Shame, I was hoping for one more season from DC. He’s retiring. :(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/drivers/7487186.stm
Shame, I was hoping for one more season from DC.

]]> By: the limit http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/23/the-driver-debates-david-coulthard/comment-page-3/#comment-174127 the limit Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:15:02 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=7149#comment-174127 To Motion and Rowan. I agree on your points concerning Mark Webber. He is one of the most underrated drivers on the current grid and has a bright future ahead of him. Ofcourse alot of Brits are going to be banging the drum for David Coulthard, why not? You only have to look at his overrall record in points to see that DC has always had the talent to win races and score podiums, just not enough to win championships. Oh, and another thing. As good as Mark Webber is, and as promising as his career appears, he has yet to win a race. Now, one could argue quite rightly that Webber hasn't been that lucky concerning reliability and the cars he has driven, but at the end of the day it is the results that people will remember. Coulthard has won Monaco twice, a feat not many drivers can associate themselves with. Anyway, I am biased. My favourite Australian driver will always be Alan Jones, by a country mile. To Motion and Rowan.

I agree on your points concerning Mark Webber. He is one of the most underrated drivers on the current grid and has a bright future ahead of him.
Ofcourse alot of Brits are going to be banging the drum for David Coulthard, why not? You only have to look at his overrall record in points to see that DC has always had the talent to win races and score podiums, just not enough to win championships.
Oh, and another thing. As good as Mark Webber is, and as promising as his career appears, he has yet to win a race. Now, one could argue quite rightly that Webber hasn’t been that lucky concerning reliability and the cars he has driven, but at the end of the day it is the results that people will remember.
Coulthard has won Monaco twice, a feat not many drivers can associate themselves with. Anyway, I am biased. My favourite Australian driver will always be Alan Jones, by a country mile.

]]> By: Daniel http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/23/the-driver-debates-david-coulthard/comment-page-3/#comment-173729 Daniel Thu, 26 Jun 2008 05:46:01 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=7149#comment-173729 so looks to me its the proven designers and drivers at redbull and honda who seem to be versing each other for next year. you never know, redbull and honda could be fighting one another for the title and ferrai & mclarern having shockers.... u never know with new regulations so looks to me its the proven designers and drivers at redbull and honda who seem to be versing each other for next year. you never know, redbull and honda could be fighting one another for the title and ferrai & mclarern having shockers….

u never know with new regulations

]]> By: Jean http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/23/the-driver-debates-david-coulthard/comment-page-3/#comment-173549 Jean Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:14:12 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=7149#comment-173549 F1 freak , although the DC debate , you sparked off an interesting one mentioning Honda. They will turn around , hiring Ross Brawn being the best move they have done since Nick Fry moved in (through Honda acquiring BAR 100% , effectively). The next big step is to look at a driver change , I see them in a similar situation to Red Bull in that respect , it may be wise to hang on to Rubens for another year (although I have some doubts as to his ability to help develop a top car) , and try to get the car developed to the maximum by end '09. If they succeed , 2010 will be the year to look at a driver in the same calibre as Alonso. I bet Ross Brawn may already be thinking the "fast tracking" of the driver line up , so we could see a change even as early as next year. Oh , and more than a driver , I hope they lose the "antelope" wing soon ... F1 freak , although the DC debate , you sparked off an interesting one mentioning Honda. They will turn around , hiring Ross Brawn being the best move they have done since Nick Fry moved in (through Honda acquiring BAR 100% , effectively). The next big step is to look at a driver change , I see them in a similar situation to Red Bull in that respect , it may be wise to hang on to Rubens for another year (although I have some doubts as to his ability to help develop a top car) , and try to get the car developed to the maximum by end ’09. If they succeed , 2010 will be the year to look at a driver in the same calibre as Alonso. I bet Ross Brawn may already be thinking the “fast tracking” of the driver line up , so we could see a change even as early as next year. Oh , and more than a driver , I hope they lose the “antelope” wing soon …

]]> By: f1freak http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/23/the-driver-debates-david-coulthard/comment-page-3/#comment-173543 f1freak Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:54:11 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=7149#comment-173543 i thought hondas engines is the best in the buisness....bloody hell they are messing up big time...i also heard from jensons interview on itv that the team is working for 2009 or 2010 (he said that as a joke) i am not sure abt this correct me if i am wrong...i think they should concentrate on the current situation.... who knows whats regulations FIA throws up next year and then they will be cursing themselves.....and where is that ross brawn effect.... does any one think that they should get a young driver in place of jenson and keep rubens for experience... i thought hondas engines is the best in the buisness….bloody hell they are messing up big time…i also heard from jensons interview on itv that the team is working for 2009 or 2010 (he said that as a joke) i am not sure abt this correct me if i am wrong…i think they should concentrate on the current situation…. who knows whats regulations FIA throws up next year and then they will be cursing themselves…..and where is that ross brawn effect…. does any one think that they should get a young driver in place of jenson and keep rubens for experience…

]]> By: Steven Roy http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/23/the-driver-debates-david-coulthard/comment-page-3/#comment-173540 Steven Roy Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:41:16 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=7149#comment-173540 Since David Richards lef BAR the team has gone backwards. They don't seem to have the slightest idea how to move forward. Last year they had wind tunnel problems and claimed to have fixed them bu I have yet to be convinced. According to sidepodcast reporting from yesterday's test session the engine sounds like a bag of rocks and nothing like any other engine. They also went on to suggest that Honda may as well shut up shop until the engine freeze is over as nothing that sounds like their engine will ever be right. Ross Brawn may be able to take the team forward but he can't ge decenet results while he is saddled with an engine that sounds like a bag of rocks. Since David Richards lef BAR the team has gone backwards. They don’t seem to have the slightest idea how to move forward. Last year they had wind tunnel problems and claimed to have fixed them bu I have yet to be convinced.

According to sidepodcast reporting from yesterday’s test session the engine sounds like a bag of rocks and nothing like any other engine. They also went on to suggest that Honda may as well shut up shop until the engine freeze is over as nothing that sounds like their engine will ever be right.

Ross Brawn may be able to take the team forward but he can’t ge decenet results while he is saddled with an engine that sounds like a bag of rocks.

]]> By: Oliver http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/23/the-driver-debates-david-coulthard/comment-page-2/#comment-173529 Oliver Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:20:13 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=7149#comment-173529 Keith, I've got no problem with Jenson's driving whatsoever, His driving that day was great. I only used him as a reference because he drove the Honda to victory and a Mclaren could have won that race too if they had not gone to conservative with Pedro's race strategy. What I was trying to get across was that, but for that win, Honda has been in very bad shape since Nick fry took over, and it actually reached its lowest ebb, when Gil de Ferran joined the team. If ever, my problem with Button was that he negotiated himself into driving for uncompetitive cars for an extended period of his career. Keith, I’ve got no problem with Jenson’s driving whatsoever, His driving that day was great. I only used him as a reference because he drove the Honda to victory and a Mclaren could have won that race too if they had not gone to conservative with Pedro’s race strategy. What I was trying to get across was that, but for that win, Honda has been in very bad shape since Nick fry took over, and it actually reached its lowest ebb, when Gil de Ferran joined the team.

If ever, my problem with Button was that he negotiated himself into driving for uncompetitive cars for an extended period of his career.

]]> By: Sush http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/23/the-driver-debates-david-coulthard/comment-page-2/#comment-173499 Sush Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:37:14 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=7149#comment-173499 F1freak, Honda have gone downhill since the V8's, they finally nailed the V10 era and didn't have the proper R&D for a V8. I read somewhere that the FIA put the Honda V10 on a rolling road and it registered 1200BHP. F1freak, Honda have gone downhill since the V8′s, they finally nailed the V10 era and didn’t have the proper R&D for a V8.

I read somewhere that the FIA put the Honda V10 on a rolling road and it registered 1200BHP.

]]> By: Keith Collantine http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/23/the-driver-debates-david-coulthard/comment-page-2/#comment-173488 Keith Collantine Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:56:09 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=7149#comment-173488 It was an opportunistic win but I think it minimalises Button's driving to say it was "pure luck". He was up with Alonso on pace that day: <a href="/2006/08/06/hungarian-grand-prix-2006-review/" rel="nofollow">2006 Hungarian Grand Prix review</a>. You're dead right about Coulthard's qualifying form though. It was an opportunistic win but I think it minimalises Button’s driving to say it was “pure luck”. He was up with Alonso on pace that day: 2006 Hungarian Grand Prix review.

You’re dead right about Coulthard’s qualifying form though.

]]> By: Oliver http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/06/23/the-driver-debates-david-coulthard/comment-page-2/#comment-173486 Oliver Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:42:09 +0000 http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=7149#comment-173486 F1freak, It might just be a coincidence, but since Nick Fry took over at Honda, they've just gone downhill ever since, the win they had was pure luck, cause even Mclaren could have won that race with Pedro had they not fuelled him too heavy. F1freak,
It might just be a coincidence, but since Nick Fry took over at Honda, they’ve just gone downhill ever since, the win they had was pure luck, cause even Mclaren could have won that race with Pedro had they not fuelled him too heavy.

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