Comments on: First drivers, now teams to pay more?

By: Sush

Sush — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:13:38 +0000

Dan M, yep he does, want more irony?, so does Jean Toad.

By: Dan Brunell

Dan Brunell — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:03:09 +0000

I thought that Max would be more careful with his retribution. I get the feeling that BMW, McLaren, Honda, and Toyota will face some additional “penalties” at some upcoming races.

Sorry to be so cynical, but Max has put us fans in a positions where we can’t really react any other way.

By: michael counsell

michael counsell — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:46:44 +0000

I totally agree with Chalky.

It seems to me that by dividing the commercial and the regulatory side of F1, the money isn’t getting to the FIA to fund new systems which the teams want. Surely some kind of new deal is required because whatever is happening at he moment isn’t working. If the FOM ran these systems they could get in sponsors to pay for these things (in the same way as the timing) but I guess the FIA isn’t allowed to do this as it is non commercial. I’m sure there are plenty of companies that would love to boast about any association with the operational side of F1 as they do with pretty much every other aspect.

By: Dan M

Dan M — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:06:59 +0000

“The committee responsible for deciding where that money goes has various ‘big names’ on it, including Mosley, Michael Schumacher and Norbert Haug.”

Norbert Haug helps decide where that money goes? I find that a little ironic…

By: donwatters

donwatters — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:40:15 +0000

Rob: If things get any more complicated, that question is sure to pop into every team’s, sponsor’s, and manufacturer’s mind. Perhaps Bernie is playing his hand with that thought in mind.

By: Rob ijbema

Rob ijbema — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:56:22 +0000

who needs the FIA!?

By: Paul

Paul — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:16:00 +0000

Why do I think Gordon Brown would fit in perfectly taking over Max Moseleys role!

By: DG

DG — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:09:47 +0000

Yes, but Max wants the teams to have more money, so that they can pay FIAs increased costs……
Which means that Max wants his share of the TV takings too…..
I can see where Max and Bernie are falling out now, and why maybe Bernie and CVC aren’t thinking in the same direction….
Is this any way to run a major motorsport?
Presumably all these gizmos will be transported to each circuit by the FIA and not be permenantly fitted, otherwise Bernie would be expecting the circuits to pay for them (as he does already for the new lighting).
I’m surprised Bernie hasn’t already suggested that if the teams cannot pay for the gizmos then they cannot play next year….

By: Chalky

Chalky — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:25:47 +0000

It seems that all the proposed ideas are worthwhile. The FIA doesn’t have the money sitting around to implement all of these. The track owners certainly do not have the money to pay for these either after paying Bernie to host the race.
It seems that Bernie and his financial backers CVC have all the money.
Max wants more money to go to the teams, but also wants improvements.
I think it’s a bit of pressure on Bernie to help the teams out.

By: Keith Collantine

Keith Collantine — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:10:03 +0000

Just to be clear, the money from McLaren last year is being handled by the FIA's separate Motor Sport Development Fund. The committee responsible for deciding where that money goes has various 'big names' on it, including Mosley, Michael Schumacher and Norbert Haug. A few more details on what the FIA is asking the teams to pay for are here.

By: DG

DG — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:21:34 +0000

This is what I have been saying all along.
Max (up until the last time he spoke in public) was supposedly doing things which would encourage new teams, manufacturers and drivers into F1.
But now it appears that all along he and his FIA bully-boys would rather just increase the costs of those already in the sport!
At a time when the teams are being called on to cut their own costs, isn’t this all a bit ludicrous?
Also, thanks Keith for finding what the increased costs will relate to, but what exactly are the teams paying for at the moment? I think if you looked at the real costs of things trackside, even over a season, it wouldn’t come to EUR 300,000.00!
I can see teams like Honda and Red Bull deciding that F1 isn’t worth the money, since there are other far more exciting race series to be involved in, without all this extra hassle…..

By: Journeyer

Journeyer — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:13:47 +0000

Oh, yes, Peril, you’re right bigtime.

Max is pushing the teams into Bernie’s arms. What is going on here??? Surely Max can’t be this stupid.

One only can imagine what would’ve happened if the FIA didn’t get that $100M jackpot from McLaren last year.

By: Pink Peril

Pink Peril — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:08:46 +0000

These $$$ demands are just playing into Bernie’s hands.
The more S&Max dips into the drivers/teams pockets, the more likely a breakaway series becomes.

Bullet, foot anyone?

By: Steven Roy

Steven Roy — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:01:09 +0000

You would have thought $100 million would be enough. If the FIA is short of money it is because Max sold his mate 100 years of the commercial rights for two tubes of Smarties and a Crunchie. Had he done anything approaching an honest deal the FIA would be rolling in money. Instead of that Max wants to alienate all the participants.