Comments on: 2008 half-term driver rankings part 2

By: sumedh

sumedh — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:25:47 +0000

it should be “8 )” and not “8)”
Apologies

By: sumedh

sumedh — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 05:23:45 +0000

How can you rate trulli and webber above heikki and Alonso?
Heikki has been abysmal this year. And Alonso has done no breath-taking performances that were expected from him in this year’s lottery races ( Monaco, Silverstone, Magny Cours). He did well only at Australia.
Alonso has been beaten by 4 drivers to the podium: Rosberg, Trulli, Coulthard, Rubens (in a HONDA)

for me:
Heikki
7) Alonso
6) Trulli
5) Webber

By: Mick

Mick — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:55:35 +0000

I think to put things in perspective, Renault is not as good a car as the Toyota and the Red Bull. The consistency is there, but with out and out pace, it has been lacking in most tracks and ony aggressive strategy has got it up on the grid.

So that said, Alonso is better than Trulli and Webber. There is no doubt that he is better than Massa.

Top three thus far:

1. Kubica
2. Kimmi
3. Hammy

By: Fireblade

Fireblade — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:18:49 +0000

-I think that Alonso has done till now a great job on the relatively slow Renault…Piquet on the other side is a complete failure…several mistakes (twice in e.g. spain) put him in a really weak position.Other drivers with the same car would have achieved definetly better results.
-For me Kimi is still my favorite driver….he knows how to score even under the worst circumstances.He even knows how to handle pressure on the circuit.
The latter is a point I completely miss when I remember his team mate Massa who easily loses concentration-even when he is not under pressure- (spinnng in Sepang,drift in Monaco) and usually wins only when he starts from the front row.Once leading ,the result of the race is almost determined!The F1 racing magazine made a statistic about the 2007 season saying that he is the driver who did the most overtaking maneuvers.Still missing great results!
-Kubica is the underdog…but he only won when all of his main contenders where out! (Montreal).But I expect much more from him!!
-Lewis Hamilton was very lucky in Monaco.The French GP was a disaster..But he proved in Silverstone to be a 1st league driver.But still I do not think that he will win the championship this year.When the Scuderia Ferrari is working excellent in terms of startegy and absence of technical failure,no one can beat them.And this is definetly something one has to keep in mind!

By: Trig

Trig — Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:36:35 +0000

I’d put Webber well ahead of Trulli, Kovi and Alonso this year…. Although Silverstone wasn’t his finest hour, he’s clearly outperformed those 3 all year.

Kovi has had terrible luck though…

By: Nirupam

Nirupam — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:43:58 +0000

@Internet
Well…seems like we are far from the actual topic..I would suggest Keith to make another article in this forum titled Performance of Alonso and Renault this year so far.

By: Internet

Internet — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:20:44 +0000

I believe each WCC point earns Renault a substantial amount of money. Had Alonso not thrown away points he would most likely be ahead of Webber and Renault ahead of Williams.

By: Nirupam

Nirupam — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:03:38 +0000

@Intenet
That is exactly what I want to mean.. That car is not even capable of finishing 6th/7th consistently. May be had Alonso not taken the risks he wud have helped Renault get a few points(only a few though!). But even after considering those, there would not have been much difference for Renault at WCC

By: Internet

Internet — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 11:58:38 +0000

@Nirupam: The statistics are impressive, but this season he has lost too many valuable WCC points and places for Renault by driving over what the car is capable of.

By: Nirupam

Nirupam — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 10:50:57 +0000

@Internet
I fully agree your view “A driver can only go as fast as the car can go”, thats why Lewis/Massa/Kimi are in a three way tie right now and Alonso is in ninth! Do you think Lewis/Kimi/Massa would have been able to be where they are now with R28 instead of their respective cars?
If you can remember, during past three years, when Alonso got cars with winning capability, Alonso ran 53 races, finishing 49 times (92.45%), 41 podium finishes(18 1s, 16 2s, 7 3s-77.36%). Not only that, out of 49 finishes, he missed points only once (Hungary 2005).