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	<title>Comments on: The Ben Evans column: Donington Park</title>
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		<title>By: DAVE</title>
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		<dc:creator>DAVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 00:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite clearly something will have to be done to upgrade the A453, i.e. dualling it, both for the race course and the airport.
What does seem amazing is that the A453 was the original road but the A42 was put in place as the link to the M1, byepassing the airport and the race track !
The Government found the money for the Silverstone byepass. Now lets see if they are prepared to cough up again (even though this is now in the Midlands !).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite clearly something will have to be done to upgrade the A453, i.e. dualling it, both for the race course and the airport.<br />
What does seem amazing is that the A453 was the original road but the A42 was put in place as the link to the M1, byepassing the airport and the race track !<br />
The Government found the money for the Silverstone byepass. Now lets see if they are prepared to cough up again (even though this is now in the Midlands !).</p>
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		<title>By: Salty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice assessment.  Donington will not be ready and certainly could not turn a profit - even track advertising revenues go back to the Gnome.  

Heartily agree with the business heartland spin, but given global advertising and TV income, suspect Bernie WILL play hardball and there will be no British GP after next year.  The industry will have to move on and do it&#039;s wining and dining elsewhere - no a huge hardship given the budgets involved and the global nature of the organisations who make up their client base.  

Ugly truth is F1 has long since become a cash-cow, BRDC and the British government are quite right in not agreeing to further bankroll this.   

Will F1 lose fans over this?  Not many I suspect.  The very nature of multimedia access to this sport is way beyond any other at present.  Live timing and web video feeds will continue to advance.  How long before we are watching from our computers, selecting which driver to ride onboard with and commentary to plug into.  No, I suspect F1 will probably continue to increase its global fan base through technical advancement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice assessment.  Donington will not be ready and certainly could not turn a profit &#8211; even track advertising revenues go back to the Gnome.  </p>
<p>Heartily agree with the business heartland spin, but given global advertising and TV income, suspect Bernie WILL play hardball and there will be no British GP after next year.  The industry will have to move on and do it&#8217;s wining and dining elsewhere &#8211; no a huge hardship given the budgets involved and the global nature of the organisations who make up their client base.  </p>
<p>Ugly truth is F1 has long since become a cash-cow, BRDC and the British government are quite right in not agreeing to further bankroll this.   </p>
<p>Will F1 lose fans over this?  Not many I suspect.  The very nature of multimedia access to this sport is way beyond any other at present.  Live timing and web video feeds will continue to advance.  How long before we are watching from our computers, selecting which driver to ride onboard with and commentary to plug into.  No, I suspect F1 will probably continue to increase its global fan base through technical advancement.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some really interesting points. 

I agree with everyone who says Donington won&#039;t be ready - they really do need to build a new spur from the M1. Not to mention that there is a real risk of destroying the track&#039;s character too - i.e. beautiful parkland circuit.

No British GP 2010? That is the question

The key thing about the British GP is that it is the commercial hub of the F1 year. Monaco is all about posturing, but Silverstone is where the big deals get done - between the teams and the industry, between the sponsors and the teams and between the sponsors and their clients.

The majority of F1 sponsors if they don&#039;t have UK head offices at least have significant representation here and should F1 walk away from Britain then I think many sponsors would walk away from F1. For many F1 sponsors races in Bahrain, Malaysia and even Brazil mean very little and are impossible to entertain staff at.

The BRDC and FOM are engaged in a game of dare. The BRDC are refusing to move because the terms of business being offered (allegedly involving a substantial sum up front) are hugely inequitable and are effectively holding the BRDC to ransom, forcing them into a loss making business arrangement. As a result the BRDC are the only organisers to date to hold strong and say &#039;no&#039; (largely because the government won&#039;t underwrite the losses). The arguments around facilities etc are a very distance second, the bottom line is that the BRDC won&#039;t give Bernie the money he wants because it would destroy their bottom line.

So what to do? As outlined above no British GP would damage the sport enormously, the UK remains motorsports commercial heartland and that is unlikely to change in two years. No British GP would see a lot of personnel, sponsors and suppliers go elsewhere and the damage to F1 would be severe. 

Given the sums of money currently in F1 the most common sense approach would be to host one race that does not make FOM an astronomical sum, but that would keep F1&#039;s business wheels turning nicely. 

25 years ago Long Beach were put in a similar position and walked away, effectively destroying F1&#039;s US profile for two decades, to do the same in the UK would be far more damaging given the sport&#039;s current market saturation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some really interesting points. </p>
<p>I agree with everyone who says Donington won&#8217;t be ready &#8211; they really do need to build a new spur from the M1. Not to mention that there is a real risk of destroying the track&#8217;s character too &#8211; i.e. beautiful parkland circuit.</p>
<p>No British GP 2010? That is the question</p>
<p>The key thing about the British GP is that it is the commercial hub of the F1 year. Monaco is all about posturing, but Silverstone is where the big deals get done &#8211; between the teams and the industry, between the sponsors and the teams and between the sponsors and their clients.</p>
<p>The majority of F1 sponsors if they don&#8217;t have UK head offices at least have significant representation here and should F1 walk away from Britain then I think many sponsors would walk away from F1. For many F1 sponsors races in Bahrain, Malaysia and even Brazil mean very little and are impossible to entertain staff at.</p>
<p>The BRDC and FOM are engaged in a game of dare. The BRDC are refusing to move because the terms of business being offered (allegedly involving a substantial sum up front) are hugely inequitable and are effectively holding the BRDC to ransom, forcing them into a loss making business arrangement. As a result the BRDC are the only organisers to date to hold strong and say &#8216;no&#8217; (largely because the government won&#8217;t underwrite the losses). The arguments around facilities etc are a very distance second, the bottom line is that the BRDC won&#8217;t give Bernie the money he wants because it would destroy their bottom line.</p>
<p>So what to do? As outlined above no British GP would damage the sport enormously, the UK remains motorsports commercial heartland and that is unlikely to change in two years. No British GP would see a lot of personnel, sponsors and suppliers go elsewhere and the damage to F1 would be severe. </p>
<p>Given the sums of money currently in F1 the most common sense approach would be to host one race that does not make FOM an astronomical sum, but that would keep F1&#8242;s business wheels turning nicely. </p>
<p>25 years ago Long Beach were put in a similar position and walked away, effectively destroying F1&#8242;s US profile for two decades, to do the same in the UK would be far more damaging given the sport&#8217;s current market saturation</p>
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		<title>By: Chaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A friend of mine jokingly said that going to a British event without having to queue for seemingly hours at some or several points (traffic, entrance gates, food, toilet, etc) is just not possible...

(NB - its a joke folks, all be it poor one)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A friend of mine jokingly said that going to a British event without having to queue for seemingly hours at some or several points (traffic, entrance gates, food, toilet, etc) is just not possible&#8230;</p>
<p>(NB &#8211; its a joke folks, all be it poor one)</p>
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		<title>By: AndyWolf</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyWolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m already resigned to the fact that there will be no British GP in 2010.. Donnington has no hope of getting the facilities ready in less than two years, and Ecclestone has already said that Silverstone won&#039;t stage it. If this happens, I wont be going to or watching any GP&#039;s until its back in Britain...so there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m already resigned to the fact that there will be no British GP in 2010.. Donnington has no hope of getting the facilities ready in less than two years, and Ecclestone has already said that Silverstone won&#8217;t stage it. If this happens, I wont be going to or watching any GP&#8217;s until its back in Britain&#8230;so there.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Sainsbury</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/07/17/the-ben-evans-column-donington-park/comment-page-1/#comment-179473</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Sainsbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was also intending to go to the Renault World Series race in 2007. I didn&#039;t even get as far as leaving the dual carriageway, we simply had to give up and go home, having spent 90 minutes inching forwards every few minutes. Luckily I was in a TVR and the sun was out but it was still an eye-opening experience, I think it is a real long-shot to think they can run a GP there in 2010. Maybe 2110........?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was also intending to go to the Renault World Series race in 2007. I didn&#8217;t even get as far as leaving the dual carriageway, we simply had to give up and go home, having spent 90 minutes inching forwards every few minutes. Luckily I was in a TVR and the sun was out but it was still an eye-opening experience, I think it is a real long-shot to think they can run a GP there in 2010. Maybe 2110&#8230;&#8230;..?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any outcry in England about the possibility of ruining a perfectly wonderful and historic circuit? It seems too big of a price to pay for an F1 race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any outcry in England about the possibility of ruining a perfectly wonderful and historic circuit? It seems too big of a price to pay for an F1 race.</p>
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		<title>By: Journeyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that I want to be a pessimist, Ben, but let me play devil&#039;s advocate here.

Bernie DID say something to the effect of &quot;Donington or bust.&quot;  If Donington can&#039;t hold a British GP by 2010, then no one ever will (and that includes Silverstone, regardless of whether they&#039;re ready or not).

So what IF Donington isn&#039;t ready by 2010?  What next?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that I want to be a pessimist, Ben, but let me play devil&#8217;s advocate here.</p>
<p>Bernie DID say something to the effect of &#8220;Donington or bust.&#8221;  If Donington can&#8217;t hold a British GP by 2010, then no one ever will (and that includes Silverstone, regardless of whether they&#8217;re ready or not).</p>
<p>So what IF Donington isn&#8217;t ready by 2010?  What next?</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the F2 point, although it does have a degree of posturing and politicking, I do wonder if this is Max etc preparing for when Bernie takes full control of F1, since he will presumably be taking GP2 with him.
Who owns the rights to the actual name &#039;Formula One&#039;? If its the FIA, then of course they will set up a new lead in series to go with it, and all the current F1 teams will have a big dilema when it comes to the split, and Bernies groups will have to change their names - and lose the fanbase....
If Bernie owns the name, then he is sitting on a gold mine, and no wonder he wants to take it away from the FIA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the F2 point, although it does have a degree of posturing and politicking, I do wonder if this is Max etc preparing for when Bernie takes full control of F1, since he will presumably be taking GP2 with him.<br />
Who owns the rights to the actual name &#8216;Formula One&#8217;? If its the FIA, then of course they will set up a new lead in series to go with it, and all the current F1 teams will have a big dilema when it comes to the split, and Bernies groups will have to change their names &#8211; and lose the fanbase&#8230;.<br />
If Bernie owns the name, then he is sitting on a gold mine, and no wonder he wants to take it away from the FIA!</p>
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		<title>By: Kester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Download music festival took us nearly an hour to get out of the car park. We were literally parked 5-10 metres from the exit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Download music festival took us nearly an hour to get out of the car park. We were literally parked 5-10 metres from the exit.</p>
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