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		<title>By: Keith Collantine</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/08/24/championship-points-after-the-european-gp/comment-page-2/#comment-197001</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; href=&quot;http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2008/8/8277.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an interesting quote&lt;/a&gt; from Ron Dennis on the constructors&#039; championship last year:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Last year, McLaren won eight Grands Prix, and the combined total of the world championship points scored in the world drivers&#039; championship by Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso exceeded the combined total scored by any other team&#039;s two drivers. That statistic is something that people who like to describe 2007 as a bad year for McLaren would do well to remember.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s <a target="_blank" href="http://www.formula1.com/news/interviews/2008/8/8277.html" rel="nofollow">an interesting quote</a> from Ron Dennis on the constructors&#8217; championship last year:</p>
<blockquote><p>Last year, McLaren won eight Grands Prix, and the combined total of the world championship points scored in the world drivers&#8217; championship by Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso exceeded the combined total scored by any other team&#8217;s two drivers. That statistic is something that people who like to describe 2007 as a bad year for McLaren would do well to remember.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Gman</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/08/24/championship-points-after-the-european-gp/comment-page-2/#comment-196846</link>
		<dc:creator>Gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s clear to me that McLaren is progressing as a team as the season gose on- Heikki is also improving his game, just not enough to match the Ferraris every week. 

If it&#039;s not Massa v. Hamilton down the stretch, then Lewis is going to run away with the title. Ferrari has given Massa a car that can beat McLaren every week, but reliability is clearly a problem for them, and it could cost them one or both titles in the end. McLaren is clearly on top of their game- with harmony in the team as ooposed to chaos last season- and I don&#039;t seem them fading out down the stretch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s clear to me that McLaren is progressing as a team as the season gose on- Heikki is also improving his game, just not enough to match the Ferraris every week. </p>
<p>If it&#8217;s not Massa v. Hamilton down the stretch, then Lewis is going to run away with the title. Ferrari has given Massa a car that can beat McLaren every week, but reliability is clearly a problem for them, and it could cost them one or both titles in the end. McLaren is clearly on top of their game- with harmony in the team as ooposed to chaos last season- and I don&#8217;t seem them fading out down the stretch.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Collantine</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/08/24/championship-points-after-the-european-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-196629</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard - Yep that&#039;s right, the constructors&#039; points are the same as those scored by whoever drives for them in each round.

Of course some times a driver scores points for two teams in one season, like Sebastian Vettel last year - his point from Indianapolis was counted by BMW and his points from later in the season went to Toro Rosso.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard &#8211; Yep that&#8217;s right, the constructors&#8217; points are the same as those scored by whoever drives for them in each round.</p>
<p>Of course some times a driver scores points for two teams in one season, like Sebastian Vettel last year &#8211; his point from Indianapolis was counted by BMW and his points from later in the season went to Toro Rosso.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys i&#039;m slightly confused, is the constructors championship just a summation of the drivers points? I&#039;ve never really paid any attention to it before. Is some other factor taken into account or can i just not add up?!!

Rich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys i&#8217;m slightly confused, is the constructors championship just a summation of the drivers points? I&#8217;ve never really paid any attention to it before. Is some other factor taken into account or can i just not add up?!!</p>
<p>Rich</p>
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		<title>By: f1freak</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/08/24/championship-points-after-the-european-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-196326</link>
		<dc:creator>f1freak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to be honest i wont be surprised if ferrari loose the constructors championship cuz of their own problems i.e reliability and mishaps. i have to admire lewis and mclaren how they bounced back from difficult time....it would become more interesting if kimi wins at spa...ferrari seems to be in trouble...but still anything can happen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be honest i wont be surprised if ferrari loose the constructors championship cuz of their own problems i.e reliability and mishaps. i have to admire lewis and mclaren how they bounced back from difficult time&#8230;.it would become more interesting if kimi wins at spa&#8230;ferrari seems to be in trouble&#8230;but still anything can happen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Collantine</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/08/24/championship-points-after-the-european-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-196257</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fairness to Scheckter, the 1980 Ferrari was a dog!

I did a post along these lines in May - it&#039;s quite unusual for a defending champion to lose the title to his team mate the following year. However Alain Prost twice beat a title-holding team mate:

&lt;a href=&quot;/2008/05/30/could-felipe-massa-do-a-prost/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Could Felipe Massa &#039;do a Prost&#039;?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fairness to Scheckter, the 1980 Ferrari was a dog!</p>
<p>I did a post along these lines in May &#8211; it&#8217;s quite unusual for a defending champion to lose the title to his team mate the following year. However Alain Prost twice beat a title-holding team mate:</p>
<p><a href="/2008/05/30/could-felipe-massa-do-a-prost/" rel="nofollow">Could Felipe Massa &#8216;do a Prost&#8217;?</a></p>
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		<title>By: MW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So its going to be Hamilton vs Massa. What kind of role will Raikonnen  be willing to play? For the last couple of years Kimi R was always pushing, always one of the fastest. This has not always been the case since winning the title. Anyone remember Jody Scheckter the year after he won with Ferrari? Does Kimi need a break? or more?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So its going to be Hamilton vs Massa. What kind of role will Raikonnen  be willing to play? For the last couple of years Kimi R was always pushing, always one of the fastest. This has not always been the case since winning the title. Anyone remember Jody Scheckter the year after he won with Ferrari? Does Kimi need a break? or more?</p>
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		<title>By: Becken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Becken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George,

After China GP last year, Malasiang GP and Canada GP in 2008 I read Lewis get all fault for the bad results. In China all we know that the team has a huge responsibility on that incident and in Malasian this year Lewis recovered a penalty, a bad pit stop made by the team and never moaning about it.

After Bahrein he said: “A very poor performance. I sort of let the team down today. I&#039;m as disappointed as you could be, I guess. As a professional, when you start off badly you need to pick things up and still deliver, and I did none of that for the team.&quot;

What more do you want, mate?

This year he have been recovering from a sort of penalties and bad performances and never moaning o offering excuses about it. He is a true man, mate. Look what mature guys as Felipe and David say when they spin or crash into another driver…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George,</p>
<p>After China GP last year, Malasiang GP and Canada GP in 2008 I read Lewis get all fault for the bad results. In China all we know that the team has a huge responsibility on that incident and in Malasian this year Lewis recovered a penalty, a bad pit stop made by the team and never moaning about it.</p>
<p>After Bahrein he said: “A very poor performance. I sort of let the team down today. I&#8217;m as disappointed as you could be, I guess. As a professional, when you start off badly you need to pick things up and still deliver, and I did none of that for the team.&#8221;</p>
<p>What more do you want, mate?</p>
<p>This year he have been recovering from a sort of penalties and bad performances and never moaning o offering excuses about it. He is a true man, mate. Look what mature guys as Felipe and David say when they spin or crash into another driver…</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Sainsbury</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/08/24/championship-points-after-the-european-gp/comment-page-1/#comment-196136</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Sainsbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually george, Lewis said that his health woes had not slowed him down, just made him feel miserable. So best to actually listen to what is being said before making rash judgments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually george, Lewis said that his health woes had not slowed him down, just made him feel miserable. So best to actually listen to what is being said before making rash judgments.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeK</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was stunned to read about it, not surprised that he was ill.

I have no doubt that Lewis was under the weather, the point is if he brings it up after he loses it sounds like he&#039;s offering excuses; that he could have won if he was feeling better.

I&#039;d have liked it a lot better if he just said Felipe and Ferrari had our number this weekend, we&#039;ll get back on pace at Spa.

As a McLaren fan I&#039;m trying to get behind Lewis for the title, it&#039;s a little difficult after his contributions to last year&#039;s debacle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was stunned to read about it, not surprised that he was ill.</p>
<p>I have no doubt that Lewis was under the weather, the point is if he brings it up after he loses it sounds like he&#8217;s offering excuses; that he could have won if he was feeling better.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d have liked it a lot better if he just said Felipe and Ferrari had our number this weekend, we&#8217;ll get back on pace at Spa.</p>
<p>As a McLaren fan I&#8217;m trying to get behind Lewis for the title, it&#8217;s a little difficult after his contributions to last year&#8217;s debacle.</p>
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