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	<title>Comments on: Felipe Massa scores flawless win at Valencia (2008 European GP review)</title>
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		<title>By: yamaha ypt</title>
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		<dc:creator>yamaha ypt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 10:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite nice post. I just stumbled upon your website and wanted to say that I&#039;ve seriously loved looking your webpage posts. In any case I??ll be subscribing for your feed and i hope you be able to write again soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite nice post. I just stumbled upon your website and wanted to say that I&#8217;ve seriously loved looking your webpage posts. In any case I??ll be subscribing for your feed and i hope you be able to write again soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Gman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not qualified to really comment on the race- I was away in Baltimore to see a weekend series by the Yankees, and the hotel&#039;s crummy 30-channel cable package diden&#039;t include Speed network :(

After reading up on everything that happened, I&#039;ve come to a few conclusions from what I can see:

- I agree with the assessment that Ferrari- not Massa himself- should be blamed for his car being released with Sutil coming. I&#039;m still trying to figure out the system they use for letting him know he&#039;s good to go, but don&#039;t the drivers trust the crew to give them the all-clear? 

- The lack of overtaking must have been a great disappointment to all of you tuning in live, I know it is for me when we see races like that. I don&#039;t know enough about either circuit design or automotive engineering to give a good opinion, but hopefully things will improve once the new regs come into play next season. 

- Love it or hate it, but the fact of life at ferrari is that Massa is outperforming Kimi on a consistent basis. Even if the race was a procession, he did bag pole and a win on a new track, and that would be two wins in a row if not for bad luck that was none of his fault in Hungary. 

I have nothing against Kimi- he&#039;s a brilliant talent- but Felipe is without a doubt Ferrari&#039;s best bet for the title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not qualified to really comment on the race- I was away in Baltimore to see a weekend series by the Yankees, and the hotel&#8217;s crummy 30-channel cable package diden&#8217;t include Speed network <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>After reading up on everything that happened, I&#8217;ve come to a few conclusions from what I can see:</p>
<p>- I agree with the assessment that Ferrari- not Massa himself- should be blamed for his car being released with Sutil coming. I&#8217;m still trying to figure out the system they use for letting him know he&#8217;s good to go, but don&#8217;t the drivers trust the crew to give them the all-clear? </p>
<p>- The lack of overtaking must have been a great disappointment to all of you tuning in live, I know it is for me when we see races like that. I don&#8217;t know enough about either circuit design or automotive engineering to give a good opinion, but hopefully things will improve once the new regs come into play next season. </p>
<p>- Love it or hate it, but the fact of life at ferrari is that Massa is outperforming Kimi on a consistent basis. Even if the race was a procession, he did bag pole and a win on a new track, and that would be two wins in a row if not for bad luck that was none of his fault in Hungary. </p>
<p>I have nothing against Kimi- he&#8217;s a brilliant talent- but Felipe is without a doubt Ferrari&#8217;s best bet for the title.</p>
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		<title>By: f1videohere</title>
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		<dc:creator>f1videohere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 14:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ferrari should give Massa the No.1 driver - only 6 races to go..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ferrari should give Massa the No.1 driver &#8211; only 6 races to go..</p>
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		<title>By: Scootin159</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scootin159</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, apparently Kimi&#039;s right cooling exhaust chimney was damaged during the infamous pitstop... it is much more likely that this caused a much more severe cooling issue than the extra few stationary seconds in pit lane, and was a much more direct cause of his engine failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, apparently Kimi&#8217;s right cooling exhaust chimney was damaged during the infamous pitstop&#8230; it is much more likely that this caused a much more severe cooling issue than the extra few stationary seconds in pit lane, and was a much more direct cause of his engine failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Arake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 13:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Felipe. It was F...Great!!!HAT TRICK...What else can I talk about? sorry for my poor english...I&#039;m just brazilian jungle guy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Felipe. It was F&#8230;Great!!!HAT TRICK&#8230;What else can I talk about? sorry for my poor english&#8230;I&#8217;m just brazilian jungle guy</p>
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		<title>By: Freeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have this to say about Valencia in terms of Entertainment Value for F1...

I got my wife (a casual enthusiast) and her sister to watch to race.  Coincidentally, Valencia GP was clashed with Olympics closing ceremony. Before the race, I was telling my wife how exciting Valencia&#039;s going to be. &quot;Honey, it&#039;s a new street circuit in a beautiful setting.  But it&#039;s high speed, with chances of overtaking, tough challenges for drivers.  I&#039;m sure it&#039;s action packed, let&#039;s get your sister over to watch!&quot; (Her sister is a newbie, and the 3 of us are going to Singapore GP with some mates)

After a couple laps, the ladies are complaining it&#039;s getting boring (I must agree somewhat), then suggesting watching the Olympics closing ceremony. Reluctantly, I switched over suring commercial break. Then like magic, the ladies are &quot;wowing and ahhing&quot; at the top notch performances (which it was amazing).  Now time to swtich over to F1....

&quot;Honey, dammit! Massa now 5.1 seconds ahead of Hamilton! I wonder if he&#039;s running light&quot; No response from the missus, and actually now both of them flipping through magazines!  Another ad-break, the ladies spring back to life with their jaws dropped with the amazing performance by the Chinese. &quot;Hey I wonder when Beckham&#039;s appearing on stage&quot; says my wife... (which of course we missed the moment cuz I was waiting for the second pitstop window)

No, I&#039;m not saying us lads should not watch F1 with their missus.  But, all the money that went into setting up a fascinating Valencia circuit, and all that glamour that comes with F1, is not that appealing to casual fans. Althogh we have a few entertaining races this year (thank god!), but those who watch sports to kill time, are not that entertained by 20 cars going round without any action.  Does this explain why TV numbers are down?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have this to say about Valencia in terms of Entertainment Value for F1&#8230;</p>
<p>I got my wife (a casual enthusiast) and her sister to watch to race.  Coincidentally, Valencia GP was clashed with Olympics closing ceremony. Before the race, I was telling my wife how exciting Valencia&#8217;s going to be. &#8220;Honey, it&#8217;s a new street circuit in a beautiful setting.  But it&#8217;s high speed, with chances of overtaking, tough challenges for drivers.  I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s action packed, let&#8217;s get your sister over to watch!&#8221; (Her sister is a newbie, and the 3 of us are going to Singapore GP with some mates)</p>
<p>After a couple laps, the ladies are complaining it&#8217;s getting boring (I must agree somewhat), then suggesting watching the Olympics closing ceremony. Reluctantly, I switched over suring commercial break. Then like magic, the ladies are &#8220;wowing and ahhing&#8221; at the top notch performances (which it was amazing).  Now time to swtich over to F1&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Honey, dammit! Massa now 5.1 seconds ahead of Hamilton! I wonder if he&#8217;s running light&#8221; No response from the missus, and actually now both of them flipping through magazines!  Another ad-break, the ladies spring back to life with their jaws dropped with the amazing performance by the Chinese. &#8220;Hey I wonder when Beckham&#8217;s appearing on stage&#8221; says my wife&#8230; (which of course we missed the moment cuz I was waiting for the second pitstop window)</p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m not saying us lads should not watch F1 with their missus.  But, all the money that went into setting up a fascinating Valencia circuit, and all that glamour that comes with F1, is not that appealing to casual fans. Althogh we have a few entertaining races this year (thank god!), but those who watch sports to kill time, are not that entertained by 20 cars going round without any action.  Does this explain why TV numbers are down?</p>
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		<title>By: Brar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For us Brazilians is very difficult to understand why Massa deserved to be punished (and not Ferrari only with points). 

To understand that I needed to put myself in the other`s one mind, imagining if all of this happens in the same way but with Schumacher in Massa´splace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For us Brazilians is very difficult to understand why Massa deserved to be punished (and not Ferrari only with points). </p>
<p>To understand that I needed to put myself in the other`s one mind, imagining if all of this happens in the same way but with Schumacher in Massa´splace.</p>
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		<title>By: Pink Peril</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pink Peril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 01:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um KB, I think you&#039;ll find most people here can&#039;t stand the ITV commentary team (at least, James Allen). In fact some go so far as to watch F1 with the sound off, so your assertion that we are &#039;hanging off every word of the ITV wallies&#039; is misguided to say the least.

Blind Freddy could see that Massa should have been awarded a penalty. Pity he is not an FIA steward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um KB, I think you&#8217;ll find most people here can&#8217;t stand the ITV commentary team (at least, James Allen). In fact some go so far as to watch F1 with the sound off, so your assertion that we are &#8216;hanging off every word of the ITV wallies&#8217; is misguided to say the least.</p>
<p>Blind Freddy could see that Massa should have been awarded a penalty. Pity he is not an FIA steward.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Keith

Ho Hum

I&#039;m beginning to wonder whether I should stay up until the early hours of Sunday morning while two ginks from Australias Channel 10 pretend a. It&#039;s live, and b. It&#039;s exciting; the race is broadcast here after it&#039;s finished!

Very Boring.

Regards........../Leslie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Keith</p>
<p>Ho Hum</p>
<p>I&#8217;m beginning to wonder whether I should stay up until the early hours of Sunday morning while two ginks from Australias Channel 10 pretend a. It&#8217;s live, and b. It&#8217;s exciting; the race is broadcast here after it&#8217;s finished!</p>
<p>Very Boring.</p>
<p>Regards&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;./Leslie.</p>
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		<title>By: Dorian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to say that it was the most boring race of the season thus far. I cannot wait till next year as I agree with Keith&#039;s mantra: The track is fine, in fact it&#039;s more than fine, it&#039;s just that the cars aren&#039;t equipt to overtake the way we would like them to. Next year, however, is likely to change that.

Great drive by Massa, solid by Hamilton and a special big-up to Vettel. Cannot wait to see that guy in a WDC/WCC winning car.

I&#039;m not going to get into my opinion on the penalty or lack thereof cause I&#039;ve posted it on the other blog.

All I can say is &#039;BRING ON SPA!!&#039; (my favourite track :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to say that it was the most boring race of the season thus far. I cannot wait till next year as I agree with Keith&#8217;s mantra: The track is fine, in fact it&#8217;s more than fine, it&#8217;s just that the cars aren&#8217;t equipt to overtake the way we would like them to. Next year, however, is likely to change that.</p>
<p>Great drive by Massa, solid by Hamilton and a special big-up to Vettel. Cannot wait to see that guy in a WDC/WCC winning car.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to get into my opinion on the penalty or lack thereof cause I&#8217;ve posted it on the other blog.</p>
<p>All I can say is &#8216;BRING ON SPA!!&#8217; (my favourite track <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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