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	<title>Comments on: Giorgio Pantano beats Bruno Senna to the GP2 title &#8211; but will he reach F1?</title>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pantano&#039;s age is a problem but I think he&#039;s an absolute legend. I reckon he&#039;ll get a drive with the Williams or Toro Rosso team next year. Or if Force India decide not 2 keep sutil that could well be another posibilty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pantano&#8217;s age is a problem but I think he&#8217;s an absolute legend. I reckon he&#8217;ll get a drive with the Williams or Toro Rosso team next year. Or if Force India decide not 2 keep sutil that could well be another posibilty.</p>
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		<title>By: Paige</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 08:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senna needs another year. He&#039;s plenty quick, but erratic. He can make it to F1, though. 

Di Grassi was, IMO, definitely the best and most &quot;F1-ready&quot; driver in GP2 this season. If he&#039;d started the first few races, he would have easily won the championship. He had the best combination of pure speed, poise, and consistency. If I&#039;ve got an open seat next year, he&#039;s in my top-3 drivers I&#039;m looking at to fill it, and that includes F1 drivers. He&#039;s got a bright future. 

Pantano is a consistent driver who can do a good job in a F1 seat, but his upside isn&#039;t great. 

Grosjean&#039;s got the most raw speed of any driver in GP2, but again, he&#039;s very inconsistent and erratic. He needs another year in GP2. 

I actually liked Buemi. He seemed to have good race pace and handled overtaking well. He seemed to me in the races I watched to have good consistency. 

The field generally this year wasn&#039;t tremendously impressive. I think there are plenty of guys who have F1 pace (Senna, Grosjean, etc.) but don&#039;t have the consistency, and there are people like Pantano who have F1 consistency but are limited in their pace upside. The only one who I would put in a F1 car right now without hesitation is Di Grassi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senna needs another year. He&#8217;s plenty quick, but erratic. He can make it to F1, though. </p>
<p>Di Grassi was, IMO, definitely the best and most &#8220;F1-ready&#8221; driver in GP2 this season. If he&#8217;d started the first few races, he would have easily won the championship. He had the best combination of pure speed, poise, and consistency. If I&#8217;ve got an open seat next year, he&#8217;s in my top-3 drivers I&#8217;m looking at to fill it, and that includes F1 drivers. He&#8217;s got a bright future. </p>
<p>Pantano is a consistent driver who can do a good job in a F1 seat, but his upside isn&#8217;t great. </p>
<p>Grosjean&#8217;s got the most raw speed of any driver in GP2, but again, he&#8217;s very inconsistent and erratic. He needs another year in GP2. </p>
<p>I actually liked Buemi. He seemed to have good race pace and handled overtaking well. He seemed to me in the races I watched to have good consistency. </p>
<p>The field generally this year wasn&#8217;t tremendously impressive. I think there are plenty of guys who have F1 pace (Senna, Grosjean, etc.) but don&#8217;t have the consistency, and there are people like Pantano who have F1 consistency but are limited in their pace upside. The only one who I would put in a F1 car right now without hesitation is Di Grassi.</p>
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		<title>By: peterg</title>
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		<dc:creator>peterg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This years crop of talent may not have had the depth that previous seasons have had.

Senna is a bit of a contradiction. He did not beat Pantano, who is in many ways a benchmark of how good a drivers is. As a very experienced F3000/GP2 driver who is normally found in the top third of the grid, a young hotshoe should be seen beating him. Rosberg, Heikki, Hamilton, Piquet &amp; Glock all did.

That being said, with his family name, fan appeal &amp; undoubted ability to raise sponsorship, Senna may well find his way into F1.

Does he deserve to be there on merit? Probably not, consider Premat the ART teamate of Rosberg &amp; Hamiltion, a race winner &amp; front runner that never got the F1 chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This years crop of talent may not have had the depth that previous seasons have had.</p>
<p>Senna is a bit of a contradiction. He did not beat Pantano, who is in many ways a benchmark of how good a drivers is. As a very experienced F3000/GP2 driver who is normally found in the top third of the grid, a young hotshoe should be seen beating him. Rosberg, Heikki, Hamilton, Piquet &amp; Glock all did.</p>
<p>That being said, with his family name, fan appeal &amp; undoubted ability to raise sponsorship, Senna may well find his way into F1.</p>
<p>Does he deserve to be there on merit? Probably not, consider Premat the ART teamate of Rosberg &amp; Hamiltion, a race winner &amp; front runner that never got the F1 chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Gman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 01:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be difficult for Pantano to get an F1 ride, and while no fault of his own, he&#039;s got age working against him as the number one factor. Some of the best talents often take time to develop (see: Damon Hill) but with young stars getting so much attention at an early age, it will be very difficult for anyone of Pantano&#039;s age- regardless of skill level- to get an F1 seat in the forseeable future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be difficult for Pantano to get an F1 ride, and while no fault of his own, he&#8217;s got age working against him as the number one factor. Some of the best talents often take time to develop (see: Damon Hill) but with young stars getting so much attention at an early age, it will be very difficult for anyone of Pantano&#8217;s age- regardless of skill level- to get an F1 seat in the forseeable future.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t see Pantano getting an F1 drive.  I can remember when he was in karting and all I heard were people saying that he was going to be like Senna.  There were people who know an infinite amount more about karting than me who thought he should have made the move to cars earlier.  I have never seen him do anything that marked him out as special.

Lucas diGrassi has had a great season but then so he should.  He was the driver who did all the development driving so the car should be entirely to his taste.  There would be something wrong if he could not win races in a car he developed.

Bruno Senna can only lose by staying in GP2 for another season.  He has had a good season and should get an F1 seat of some kind.  We will never know how good he could have been had he not missed out on 10 years experience but he improves every year and has more untapped potential than drivers delivering similar performance.

I am not overly convinced about Buemi yet.  Ithink he could benefit from another GP2 season as could Grosjean.  He seems to have a bit of the Nicolas Minassians about him.  Fast driver but prone to being reckless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see Pantano getting an F1 drive.  I can remember when he was in karting and all I heard were people saying that he was going to be like Senna.  There were people who know an infinite amount more about karting than me who thought he should have made the move to cars earlier.  I have never seen him do anything that marked him out as special.</p>
<p>Lucas diGrassi has had a great season but then so he should.  He was the driver who did all the development driving so the car should be entirely to his taste.  There would be something wrong if he could not win races in a car he developed.</p>
<p>Bruno Senna can only lose by staying in GP2 for another season.  He has had a good season and should get an F1 seat of some kind.  We will never know how good he could have been had he not missed out on 10 years experience but he improves every year and has more untapped potential than drivers delivering similar performance.</p>
<p>I am not overly convinced about Buemi yet.  Ithink he could benefit from another GP2 season as could Grosjean.  He seems to have a bit of the Nicolas Minassians about him.  Fast driver but prone to being reckless.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert McKay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 21:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nakajima didn&#039;t impress me in GP2 last year - I thought he was still too raw and unready. I thought he&#039;d crash a lot in F1, but to his credit he hasn&#039;t done that much at all. Having said that, he&#039;s pretty much taken over from Piquet as &quot;most likely non Honda/Force India to get knocked out in Q1&quot;, so he&#039;s not really very fast at the moment.

I think on balance Pantano has just about deserved his GP2 title on consistency, but it&#039;s arguable that he&#039;s been around in the series so long he really ought to know it inside out. Pantano has probably reached his maximum. Senna, Grosjean, Di Grassi and Buemi (and maybe Maldonado too) haven&#039;t and as such they should be the ones to make the move up, though I think (as per the Nakajima example) not just yet - 1 more year for those guys.

If the grid was 26 cars there&#039;d be a slot for Pantano. With only 20, there probably isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nakajima didn&#8217;t impress me in GP2 last year &#8211; I thought he was still too raw and unready. I thought he&#8217;d crash a lot in F1, but to his credit he hasn&#8217;t done that much at all. Having said that, he&#8217;s pretty much taken over from Piquet as &#8220;most likely non Honda/Force India to get knocked out in Q1&#8243;, so he&#8217;s not really very fast at the moment.</p>
<p>I think on balance Pantano has just about deserved his GP2 title on consistency, but it&#8217;s arguable that he&#8217;s been around in the series so long he really ought to know it inside out. Pantano has probably reached his maximum. Senna, Grosjean, Di Grassi and Buemi (and maybe Maldonado too) haven&#8217;t and as such they should be the ones to make the move up, though I think (as per the Nakajima example) not just yet &#8211; 1 more year for those guys.</p>
<p>If the grid was 26 cars there&#8217;d be a slot for Pantano. With only 20, there probably isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: the limit</title>
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		<dc:creator>the limit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Sush.


 If you are going to nick anything, take all their technical data for the 2009 car, and send it off to the printers and hope no one notices. If you make it that far, then give Martin and Ron a call and make them an offer they cannot refuse. Request cash only, no cheques!
 And, after their busted again and minus another $100 million, you&#039;ll be tucked up nice and safe on some yacht off the Caymans! The big score............
 Then again, you could nick something that they would never miss, such as Nelson Piquet JNR for instance!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Sush.</p>
<p> If you are going to nick anything, take all their technical data for the 2009 car, and send it off to the printers and hope no one notices. If you make it that far, then give Martin and Ron a call and make them an offer they cannot refuse. Request cash only, no cheques!<br />
 And, after their busted again and minus another $100 million, you&#8217;ll be tucked up nice and safe on some yacht off the Caymans! The big score&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
 Then again, you could nick something that they would never miss, such as Nelson Piquet JNR for instance!</p>
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		<title>By: ScuderiaToroFerrari4Eva</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScuderiaToroFerrari4Eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the seat at Renault is there for the taking becoz Piquet well his been nowhere so i suspect someone from the list in gp2 at renault possibly grosjean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the seat at Renault is there for the taking becoz Piquet well his been nowhere so i suspect someone from the list in gp2 at renault possibly grosjean?</p>
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		<title>By: ScuderiaToroFerrari4Eva</title>
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		<dc:creator>ScuderiaToroFerrari4Eva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Salty i dont know about Senna he looks a little bit rugged he needs another year to polish up and he will be able to step up well pantano surely he can get into f1 but also di grassi grosjean but buemi looks consistant but maldanado looks very fast it will be very tricky for the teams to choose the best option :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Salty i dont know about Senna he looks a little bit rugged he needs another year to polish up and he will be able to step up well pantano surely he can get into f1 but also di grassi grosjean but buemi looks consistant but maldanado looks very fast it will be very tricky for the teams to choose the best option <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pete Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think considering he missed the first three rounds of the season, Di Grassi has looked the class of the field and I think Renault should consider replacing Piquet with him for 2009.

That said, you don&#039;t win a championship by accident and Pantano could be a solid - if not amazing - F1 driver.

His pit exit gaff today didn&#039;t do him any favours though. I guess a lapse of concentration is understandable, being 20 minutes away from winning your first title in eight years, taking it with a win in front of your home crowd, at Monza of all places, but with everybody looking for the next Hamilton, F1 demands perfection.

A development role with a mid-field team is probably the best he can hope for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think considering he missed the first three rounds of the season, Di Grassi has looked the class of the field and I think Renault should consider replacing Piquet with him for 2009.</p>
<p>That said, you don&#8217;t win a championship by accident and Pantano could be a solid &#8211; if not amazing &#8211; F1 driver.</p>
<p>His pit exit gaff today didn&#8217;t do him any favours though. I guess a lapse of concentration is understandable, being 20 minutes away from winning your first title in eight years, taking it with a win in front of your home crowd, at Monza of all places, but with everybody looking for the next Hamilton, F1 demands perfection.</p>
<p>A development role with a mid-field team is probably the best he can hope for.</p>
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