Overtaking galore at wet Monza (Video)

Posted on | Author Keith Collantine

Wet weather made the Monza F1 race a feast of overtaking
Wet weather made the Monza F1 race a feast of overtaking

It doesn’t usually rain on the Italian Grand Prix but the wet surface at Monza – just as at Silverstone and Spa – gave us some excellent racing.

Here’s video of some of the best passes and key incidents involving Lewis Hamilton, Kimi Raikkonen, Mark Webber, Jarno Trulli, David Coulthard and others:

Lewis Hamilton passes Giancarlo Fisichella, Kimi Raikkonen and others

Lewis Hamilton passed car after car in the early stages of the race. Here are some of his moves.

Jarno Trulli passes Robert Kubica, Felipe Massa passes Mark Webber

Trulli lunged past Kubica at the Della Roggia chicane – but Kubica’s perfectly timed pit stop meant he ended up back in front of the Toyota in third while Trulli finished out of the points.

Massa changed onto standard wet tyres a lap before Webber and used that to pass him on the approach to Ascari. Webber spun as they came out of the bend.

Italian Grand Prix incidents

Here’s some of the moves that didn’t work. Fisichella crashed after hitting David Coulthard’s Red Bull. Hamilton put Timo Glock wide, Jenson Button and Nelson Piquet banged wheels, and Coulthard collided with Kazuki Nakajima.

50 comments on “Overtaking galore at wet Monza (Video)”

  1. Hamilton drove great today, but he showed some bad manners. The vs Webber video is one example, but he did two more rude manoeuvres. That’s not wise, given the love FIA has for McLaren…

  2. Ponzonha, at the risk of being polemical, I think with the lack of support from most other drivers for the Spa decision, Hamilton was out to make point. Point made, I thought. And to be honest, if you’re talking about the Glock pass, I really don’t think he expected Glock to be where he was – he was angling for the next curve more than cutting him off. As for Webber, frankly I loved it. Look carefully and you’ll see Hamilton defended by moving across (not weaving), it’s Webber who bounces Hamilton but loses control. 1-0 Hamilton. Tough luck Webber.

  3. Ponzonha is right… I really think some talk about Hamilton as a superstar while overtaking but he’s quite dirty when he does it…

    but it’s better to discuss that on other topic xP

  4. Ponzonha, he may have shown some bad manners today, but it’s nothing worse than Schumacher did over the years, oh but i forgot, Lewis is English & doesnt drive a red car….. I think, however, David is spot on in his analysis, he’s a true racer who owes nothing (especially after Spa) to his ‘fellow’ drivers. I can almost hear Lewis saying, sod ’em all, I’m coming through. It was just a pity they put wets on rather than inters…..

  5. No particular pro-Hamilton axe to grind, but it seemed to me that, in the ‘Webber incident’, Hamilton simply took the same line into the corner that he was normally taking when not trying to overtake another car. I thought this might crop up, given the scrutiny he would be under, so looked at this the next few laps afterwards. He, and most others judging by the drying racing line into the chicane, did move slightly left each time before turning in. I think it’s likely that he simply didn’t expect Webber to go outside there or just didn’t see him, as most drivers seem to miss cars in that particular field of vision these days.

  6. you have to love the energy with which fom chases videos on youtube.. if only they put the same effort into making videos of the races and present on youtube or f1.com instead.. crasches ok, i understand (maybe), but these kind of goodies that only show the greatest moments of the sport? …

  7. I’m not sure I’d call aggressive driving bad manners. It’s about time we saw some ‘get out of the bloody way I’m coming through’ driving, this kid seems to have the Senna/Mansell genes in him, which can only be good for F1.

  8. @Bud

    I agree mate.
    Mansell & others of his generation thought nothing of aggressive overtaking, it was all part of the game.
    And even Schumi wasn’t too proud to nudge some oponents out of the way.

    I think it only stopped a few years ago because the suspension struts had a tendancy to break with even minimal contact, don’t know if they’ve changed the construction or if they’re just making them stronger, but they seem to be a bit tougher these days.

    I didn’t see too much wrong with the Lewis vs Webber move & I’m more a Webber fan than a Lewis fan (like ’em both but niether are my favourite).

    In conditions like we had today and last week at Spa I think there should be a bit more leniency from the stewards unless someone is driving dangerously or taking a blatant/repeated advantage.
    If possible they should be on the radio a.s.a.p. if they think someone has gained an advantage.

  9. Webber criticized Hamilton after SPA for having
    cutting, gaining advantage and not remaining ceded
    at the next corner.

    Webber cut by a hell of lot more than Hamilton, returned
    ahead and did not cede until AFTER the next corner.
    After the Whiting rule clarification this is strictly speaking a violation worth 25s.

  10. Peter – I don’t agree, but regardless I can’t see McLaren protesting because if Webber did get a penalty it would put Raikkonen in the points!

  11. Good call Keith :~)

    Can’t see Ron wanting to give a point to Ferrari.

  12. Hi Keith,

    I don’t think Webber should be penalized – but
    I don’t think Hamilton should have been either.

    I’m simply pointing out what I see as hypocrisy in the castigation of Hamilton – many critical voices themselves struggle with the shades of gray in these conditions.

    Senna was DQ’d for taking a Webber like route
    after collision with Prost….


  13. Another grey area worth mentioning was when Hamilton was closing on Massa, Massa outbraked himself and cut the chicane. If he had stayed on track Hamilton would have been a lot closer through the next part of the track and maybe even could have got a run on him to pass. Brundle brought it up in commentary.

    I’m not saying there should have been a penalty or anything – how the hell would you police that?! It’d be impossible to say how much of an advantage he gained. But in these times of scrutinising every piece of chicane cutting I thought it was an interesting moment.

  14. The stewards, apparently found it ok, at Spa, for a driver ahead to defend his position aggressively, So in that light, Lewis’ moves were very okay. In actual fact though, I doubt any of those drivers out there, could see anything through their rear view mirrors with the amount of spray they were generating.

  15. Now, that’s a proper race. Finally we can have some overtaking in the highlights, rather than ramblings about whose pit stop was the fastest and how much fuel they carried. :)
    Is there any way to make rain mandatory for all GPs? ;)

    And btw, I think they said there’s a 60% chance it may rain in Singapore according to the last forecast. I wonder what that would look like. I understand those floodlights would be ok in normal conditions, but will the drivers be able to see anything when it starts to rain ? Given how much visibility degrades when driving a normal car at night in the rain in a city full of different light sources it might be almost impossible to see anything with all that spray left by F1 cars.
    Is there any comparable racing class that held night races with floodlights and rain? There have been NASCAR night races for quite some time afaik, but I think they don’t drive in the wet at all, do they ?

  16. I agree with Ponzonha. This is the way Hamilton drive. He always close the door half way to throw the other drive out of his way. And remember this was not last time, he will do the same again. Habit is habit.

  17. Keith, 3 of the 4 videos have been taken down :( . I think it’s time The Pirate Bay started a video hosting service :)

  18. I loved Vettel’s quip at Hamilton: “we showed we have the balls”. I think Hammy’s car was far better in the rain, which also calls into question Kova’s performance. Hammy’s McLaren looked unbeatable at times, and he found so much more grip and traction. It was almost unfair to the other drivers who weren’t given a chance to fight for their positions. That’s not racing in my mind… not the kind of passing I want to see. I want to see real fights… not someone taking candy from a baby and then bragging about it after the race.

  19. Looking at how the drivers improved from their starting positions, and allowing for the conditions too, Massa actually stayed put by the end of the race, and although he didn’t have to move to get points, I was expecting him to at least get a podium place. Hammy gained 8(?) places, after a lot of serious driving and overtaking – and I thought we all like to see agressive driving? Kovy was disappointing as he didn’t really challenge for the top spot, but again, as long as he was second he did some good. Kimi ought to have followed, and even led Hammy through the field, but didn’t! He could have improved a lot when everyone changed to inters, but seemed to give up.
    I also have to question the weather forecasting, which appeared to be wildly inaccurate for the second part of the race. Was anybody there? Did it rain once the race was over?
    Also, I had watched the Saturday GP2 race beforehand, and in that race most of the cars missed the chicanes at least once during the race, and didn’t appear to wait for the next corner before they challenged again. Does GP2 use the same rules as F1? Does it use the same Stewards? I was impressed by the good manners of the F1 drivers though, presumably since they were under orders from the teams and had a talking to from Old Charlie?

  20. Congrats to Vettel for his maiden win. He drove an excellent race and deserves all the adoration. To all the on-line stewards, Hamilton drove fearlessly and gave us some exciting overtaking, please dont ruin it with speculation on his motives and manners, this is what fans want. Why the heck did Ferrari sign Kimi for another year when clearly there are talent overflowing elsewhere? Very lacklustre performance from him once again. I do not like Massa very much but at least he has the will to win.

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