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> <channel><title>Comments on: 2008 Italian GP facts and stats</title> <atom:link href="http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/</link> <description>F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog with F1 news, pictures, video, comment and analysis</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:21:23 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Oddball</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-214165</link> <dc:creator>Oddball</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:06:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-214165</guid> <description>The F1 drivers are no doubt getting younger and younger (well, not the drivers themselves but as a &quot;breed&quot;); eight out of the ten youngest F1 podiums ever has taken place over the two last seasons.The highest average age of an F1 podium in contrast is 46 years, 8 months and 20 days, which was the one after the Swiss (!) Grand Prix in 1950. It was comprised of Nino Farina (Alfa Romeo), Luigi Fagioli (Alfa Romeo) and Louis Rosier (Talbot). Pole-sitter Juan Manuel Fangio would surely have made it an all Alfa Romeo podium if his engine had not let go on the second lap.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The F1 drivers are no doubt getting younger and younger (well, not the drivers themselves but as a &#8220;breed&#8221;); eight out of the ten youngest F1 podiums ever has taken place over the two last seasons.</p><p>The highest average age of an F1 podium in contrast is 46 years, 8 months and 20 days, which was the one after the Swiss (!) Grand Prix in 1950. It was comprised of Nino Farina (Alfa Romeo), Luigi Fagioli (Alfa Romeo) and Louis Rosier (Talbot). Pole-sitter Juan Manuel Fangio would surely have made it an all Alfa Romeo podium if his engine had not let go on the second lap.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-214163</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:03:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-214163</guid> <description>Lustigson: sorry man, I completely misread it!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lustigson: sorry man, I completely misread it!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Oddball</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-214155</link> <dc:creator>Oddball</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:47:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-214155</guid> <description>The boy Vettel actually has one more &quot;youngest F1&quot; records;
at the Japanese Grand Prix last year he was also the youngest F1 driver to ever lead a race (20 years, 2 months and 27 days).At Monza he also set another world record; he bacame the &quot;slowest&quot; driver to ever win a race - as in his fastest lap time was only the 27th fastest of the race (in fact 13 drivers put in faster laps than Vettel&#039;s fastest lap). The previous &quot;slowest winner&quot; was none other than his compatriot Michael Schumacher (Belgium &#039;97) - hmmmmmm.....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The boy Vettel actually has one more &#8220;youngest F1&#8243; records;<br
/> at the Japanese Grand Prix last year he was also the youngest F1 driver to ever lead a race (20 years, 2 months and 27 days).</p><p>At Monza he also set another world record; he bacame the &#8220;slowest&#8221; driver to ever win a race &#8211; as in his fastest lap time was only the 27th fastest of the race (in fact 13 drivers put in faster laps than Vettel&#8217;s fastest lap). The previous &#8220;slowest winner&#8221; was none other than his compatriot Michael Schumacher (Belgium &#8216;97) &#8211; hmmmmmm&#8230;..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Remi</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213978</link> <dc:creator>Remi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:03:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213978</guid> <description>Stat in factsI think S. Vettel and Toro Rosso have gathered the most numerous &quot;first&quot; in a single Grand Prix. I counted 8 :
- 1st pole position for both (2)
- 1st win for both (2)
- 1st pole position by an under 21.5 driver for Vettel (1)
- 1st win by an under 22 driver for Vettel (1)
- 1st pole and win by a non-Ferrari but Ferrari powered car for Toro Rosso (2)Can we think of more?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stat in facts</p><p>I think S. Vettel and Toro Rosso have gathered the most numerous &#8220;first&#8221; in a single Grand Prix. I counted 8 :<br
/> - 1st pole position for both (2)<br
/> - 1st win for both (2)<br
/> - 1st pole position by an under 21.5 driver for Vettel (1)<br
/> - 1st win by an under 22 driver for Vettel (1)<br
/> - 1st pole and win by a non-Ferrari but Ferrari powered car for Toro Rosso (2)</p><p>Can we think of more?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Remi</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213967</link> <dc:creator>Remi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:34:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213967</guid> <description>CorrectionS. Vettel is not the first under 22 pole man (F. Alonso is, as stated above) ; I meant to say he is the youngest one.
To keep the post accurate, one may say it&#039;s the first pole by an under 21.5 driver.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction</p><p>S. Vettel is not the first under 22 pole man (F. Alonso is, as stated above) ; I meant to say he is the youngest one.<br
/> To keep the post accurate, one may say it&#8217;s the first pole by an under 21.5 driver.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Remi</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213954</link> <dc:creator>Remi</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:07:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213954</guid> <description>Stat in factsI think Vettel and Toro Rosso have gathered the most numerous &quot;first&quot; in a single Grand Prix. I counted 8 :
- 1st win for both (2)
- 1st pole for both (2)
- 1st pole an win by an under 22 driver for Vettel (2)
- 1st pole an win by a non-Ferrari but Ferrari powered car for Toro Rosso (2)Can we think of more ?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stat in facts</p><p>I think Vettel and Toro Rosso have gathered the most numerous &#8220;first&#8221; in a single Grand Prix. I counted 8 :<br
/> - 1st win for both (2)<br
/> - 1st pole for both (2)<br
/> - 1st pole an win by an under 22 driver for Vettel (2)<br
/> - 1st pole an win by a non-Ferrari but Ferrari powered car for Toro Rosso (2)</p><p>Can we think of more ?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lustigson</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213933</link> <dc:creator>Lustigson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:12:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213933</guid> <description>@ Daniel
&gt; Both Gary and Lustigson forgot BMW’s maiden win
&gt; with Robert Kubica in this year’s Canadian Grand
&gt; Prix.
No we didn&#039;t, cause the 2 new winning constructors were what we commented on.See Ajokay&#039;s statements in post #10: &quot;... the last time 2 teams won their first race in the same season...&quot; and &quot;If we count backwards from this season...&quot; :-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Daniel<br
/> &gt; Both Gary and Lustigson forgot BMW’s maiden win<br
/> &gt; with Robert Kubica in this year’s Canadian Grand<br
/> &gt; Prix.<br
/> No we didn&#8217;t, cause the 2 new winning constructors were what we commented on.</p><p>See Ajokay&#8217;s statements in post #10: &#8220;&#8230; the last time 2 teams won their first race in the same season&#8230;&#8221; and &#8220;If we count backwards from this season&#8230;&#8221; <img
src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ajokay</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213906</link> <dc:creator>ajokay</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:47:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213906</guid> <description>Well, I&#039;d drink to that, lets just hope the team can give him the car to do it with.On a side note, I really love the way the Red Bull livery is almost identical to Sauber&#039;s 1995 challenger, I always though that was a really neat car. Although the artwork on Toro Rosso makes it one of the best F1 liveries ever, I think.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;d drink to that, lets just hope the team can give him the car to do it with.</p><p>On a side note, I really love the way the Red Bull livery is almost identical to Sauber&#8217;s 1995 challenger, I always though that was a really neat car. Although the artwork on Toro Rosso makes it one of the best F1 liveries ever, I think.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith Collantine</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213904</link> <dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:42:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213904</guid> <description>Ajokay - With Vettel joining Red Bull next year, I know who my money&#039;s on!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ajokay &#8211; With Vettel joining Red Bull next year, I know who my money&#8217;s on!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ajokay</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213902</link> <dc:creator>ajokay</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:38:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213902</guid> <description>@ Lustigson&gt; You forgot Stewart, with Herbert taking the honours at the Luxembourg GP (née European GP) in 1999.Of course, how could I forget? Trying to skim-read pages of F1 results is tricky when I&#039;m supposed to be working!I wonder who the next team to win their first Grand Prix will be? I&#039;m thinking a Red Bull or Toyota, although I&#039;m not sure which would be more likely.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Lustigson</p><p>&gt; You forgot Stewart, with Herbert taking the honours at the Luxembourg GP (née European GP) in 1999.</p><p>Of course, how could I forget? Trying to skim-read pages of F1 results is tricky when I&#8217;m supposed to be working!</p><p>I wonder who the next team to win their first Grand Prix will be? I&#8217;m thinking a Red Bull or Toyota, although I&#8217;m not sure which would be more likely.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213890</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:04:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213890</guid> <description>Both Gary and Lustigson forgot BMW&#039;s maiden win with Robert Kubica in this year&#039;s Canadian Grand Prix.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both Gary and Lustigson forgot BMW&#8217;s maiden win with Robert Kubica in this year&#8217;s Canadian Grand Prix.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith Collantine</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213876</link> <dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:19:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213876</guid> <description>Gary - you&#039;re quite right, have fixed the text.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary &#8211; you&#8217;re quite right, have fixed the text.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lustigson</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213872</link> <dc:creator>Lustigson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:10:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213872</guid> <description>@ ajokay
&gt; ... the last time a team won their first Grand Prix was 10 years ago - Damon Hill for Jordan at Spa in ‘98...You forgot Stewart, with Herbert taking the honours at the Luxembourg GP (née European GP) in 1999.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ajokay<br
/> &gt; &#8230; the last time a team won their first Grand Prix was 10 years ago &#8211; Damon Hill for Jordan at Spa in ‘98&#8230;</p><p>You forgot Stewart, with Herbert taking the honours at the Luxembourg GP (née European GP) in 1999.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lustigson</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213871</link> <dc:creator>Lustigson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:09:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213871</guid> <description>@ ajokay
I was just looking into that, actually. And you&#039;re right about the two teams winning their first race.However, depending on whether you consider Toro Rosso to be a constructor, yesterday&#039;s win provides us with one of two possible stats:1. It was the first time since 1979 that 2 constructors won their first race, namely BMW Sauber and Toro Rosso.2. It was the first time since 1970 that a customer car won a Grand Prix, the last time being Jackie Stewart in a March-Ford, at Jarama.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ajokay<br
/> I was just looking into that, actually. And you&#8217;re right about the two teams winning their first race.</p><p>However, depending on whether you consider Toro Rosso to be a constructor, yesterday&#8217;s win provides us with one of two possible stats:</p><p>1. It was the first time since 1979 that 2 constructors won their first race, namely BMW Sauber and Toro Rosso.</p><p>2. It was the first time since 1970 that a customer car won a Grand Prix, the last time being Jackie Stewart in a March-Ford, at Jarama.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ajokay</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213864</link> <dc:creator>ajokay</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:47:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213864</guid> <description>According to good ol&#039; Wikipedia, as far as I can figure, the last time 2 teams won their first race in the same season was 1979.Renault - French Grand Prix - Jean-Pierre Jabouille
Williams - British Grand Prix - Clay RegazzoniBoth at the respective team&#039;s home grand prix, how&#039;s that for a statistic?If we count backwards from this season, the last time a team won their first Grand Prix was 10 years ago - Damon Hill for Jordan at Spa in &#039;98. And before that was a further 12 year gap, to Gerhard Berger for Benetton in Mexico in &#039;86. So these new team wins are few and far between in recent decades!That is, of course, if you ignore Honda and Renault&#039;s recent wins, counting them as continuations of their previous teams from the 60&#039;s and 80&#039;s</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to good ol&#8217; Wikipedia, as far as I can figure, the last time 2 teams won their first race in the same season was 1979.</p><p>Renault &#8211; French Grand Prix &#8211; Jean-Pierre Jabouille<br
/> Williams &#8211; British Grand Prix &#8211; Clay Regazzoni</p><p>Both at the respective team&#8217;s home grand prix, how&#8217;s that for a statistic?</p><p>If we count backwards from this season, the last time a team won their first Grand Prix was 10 years ago &#8211; Damon Hill for Jordan at Spa in &#8216;98. And before that was a further 12 year gap, to Gerhard Berger for Benetton in Mexico in &#8216;86. So these new team wins are few and far between in recent decades!</p><p>That is, of course, if you ignore Honda and Renault&#8217;s recent wins, counting them as continuations of their previous teams from the 60&#8217;s and 80&#8217;s</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lustigson</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213859</link> <dc:creator>Lustigson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:46:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213859</guid> <description>About the Williams stats: it depends on whether you count Grand Prix starts as a team or as a constructor. I reckon the latter, which would give the team 513 starts, according to both Forix and Wikipedia. However, Dutch commentator Olav Mol interviewed Sam Michael, last weekend, who confirmed Williams celebrated their 500th race. Odd.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the Williams stats: it depends on whether you count Grand Prix starts as a team or as a constructor. I reckon the latter, which would give the team 513 starts, according to both Forix and Wikipedia. However, Dutch commentator Olav Mol interviewed Sam Michael, last weekend, who confirmed Williams celebrated their 500th race. Odd.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alianora La Canta</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213852</link> <dc:creator>Alianora La Canta</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:34:43 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213852</guid> <description>It says something about the standard of F1 right now that only seven drivers on the grid &lt;em&gt;haven&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; won a race.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It says something about the standard of F1 right now that only seven drivers on the grid <em>haven&#8217;t</em> won a race.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: todd</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213842</link> <dc:creator>todd</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:11:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213842</guid> <description>Kieth, what do you think about the trophy&#039;s given out at santander sponsored events?A logo as a trophy is despicable, and a travesty in my opinion.F1 trophies i would have thought would be a very special thing, usually events have a very well designed trophy to commemorate the victory, but now - and for the rest of his life, Vettel has a Logo to commemorate his first every victory in F1.What a way to ruin it. Not a trophy bathed in Monza history, a ******* logo from a company that will probably be bankrupt and shrouded scandal by the time Vettel is retired and telling the story of the logo on his shelf to his kids.Bernie has been too greedy there IMO.Also, speeking of bernie&#039;s greedyness, lots of events are in doubt because of the financial burden an F1 event places on the council, millions of dollars that could to go schools and what not get blown every year in an F1 event, surely there&#039;s a way the event could make more, bernie makes the big bucks from it why can the events?would like to see post about this.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kieth, what do you think about the trophy&#8217;s given out at santander sponsored events?</p><p>A logo as a trophy is despicable, and a travesty in my opinion.</p><p>F1 trophies i would have thought would be a very special thing, usually events have a very well designed trophy to commemorate the victory, but now &#8211; and for the rest of his life, Vettel has a Logo to commemorate his first every victory in F1.</p><p>What a way to ruin it. Not a trophy bathed in Monza history, a ******* logo from a company that will probably be bankrupt and shrouded scandal by the time Vettel is retired and telling the story of the logo on his shelf to his kids.</p><p>Bernie has been too greedy there IMO.</p><p>Also, speeking of bernie&#8217;s greedyness, lots of events are in doubt because of the financial burden an F1 event places on the council, millions of dollars that could to go schools and what not get blown every year in an F1 event, surely there&#8217;s a way the event could make more, bernie makes the big bucks from it why can the events?</p><p>would like to see post about this.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gary Davidson</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213840</link> <dc:creator>Gary Davidson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:08:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213840</guid> <description>Wasn&#039;t there 8 different winners in 2003? What about Fisichella in Brazil and Alonso in Hungary?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t there 8 different winners in 2003? What about Fisichella in Brazil and Alonso in Hungary?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pink Peril</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/15/2008-italian-gp-facts-and-stats/comment-page-1/#comment-213819</link> <dc:creator>Pink Peril</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 07:02:53 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=9481#comment-213819</guid> <description>Ah, forgot about Fisi, prolly because it wasn&#039;t a very good crash ;)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, forgot about Fisi, prolly because it wasn&#8217;t a very good crash <img
src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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