Has Singapore’s F1 track held a race?

Singapore F1 night race artist\'s impression

Singapore Night Race artist's impression

The next stop on the F1 calendar is another all-new venue. Like Valencia last month, the Singapore track is a street circuit, although a larger proportion of the circuit is expected to be actual roads rather than purpose-built track.

A few weeks before the European Grand Prix the organisers put on an event for Formula Three and GT cars. It gave them the chance to test out the venue and look for problems.

As far as I’m aware, the Singapore track isn’t doing the same.

Singapore is taking on a lot with it’s first Grand Prix – as it will also be the first ever F1 night race.

Given this, I’m surprised there seems to be no plans to test out the circuit beforehand. Does anyone know if they’ve used it for racing at all, because I haven’t seen anything about it?

F1 famously went to a new circuit in Dallas in 1984 before a test race had taken place – and the track surface fell apart during the event. It might seem unlikely that such a thing could happen again in F1, but at Montreal this year the track began to fall apart during qualifying, and F1’s been going there for 30 years.

Here’s some links to what we’ve seen of the Grand Prix preparations so far:

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38 comments on Has Singapore’s F1 track held a race?

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  1. I have definitely heard from somewhere — I think it was the Renault podcast — that Singapore will not be holding any test events until the F1 race. Hairy, huh?

  2. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m reasonably sure both the Adelaide and Melbourne Australian F1 street circuits were “untested” prior to the race weekend.

  3. Right on doctorvee. When Valencia had those two races a few weeks before their GP, I recall hearing that new venues needed to host at least two FIA-sanctioned events in order for the track to be certified by the FIA- I’m sure some of you wiht more years in the sport may have more info on this than me.

    If the Singapore circuit has somehow gotten around the normal regulations, it will be a bit suspicious, and if anything should go wrong with the event, it’s going to create a major headache for all the powerbrokers involved in setting up the GP. Here’s hoping for a great event, but who knows for sure how the whole show will procede.

  4. Terry Fabulous said on 17th September 2008, 1:10

    It will be dark
    AND the track might break up
    AND it might rain
    AND we have the best title fight in years

    This promises to be the most exciting lead up to a Grand Prix in years.

    (nothing to do with the fact that I am getting married the day before. Ok maybe a little. Ok maybe a lot!)

  5. By delving into the unknown, it’s the most exciting buildup to the launch of a new race for a long long time. However, everything could be just fine, and it could be a very tedious race. I’m not saying something has to go wrong for a race to be good, I certainly hope everything works logistically (as it’s already mentioned, it will be headache central if otherwise), but you’d think they’d take greater care than this. Or it could just be a somewhat Asian mentality where it just HAS to work on the day…

    I’m pretty sure it’s not a concern, but after reading that “Singapore night race will not be dark” article my first gut impression was I hope none of the drivers are colourblind. If it were me out there, I’d confuse green/red/yellow lights on the electronic flag system for sure. And if the whole area will be floodlit, then won’t that just wash out the effectiveness of the electronic flag system? Who knows…maybe they should really have other races first.

    I’m not too clued up on GP2 (didn’t really follow it till this season), but will they be running their races there same weekend and same time??

  6. @ Loki

    nope, GP2 season ended already

    and on another note, um im pretty sure the drivers have to be tested first for things like colorblindness…

  7. at least this new venue has all the ingredients for excitement :)

  8. Stubie said on 17th September 2008, 3:46

    Keith,

    there is an excellent CGI video on the RedBull / ToroRosso site, with Vettel and Webber narratinga lap of the track… worth sharing

    http://www.redbullracing.com/4th-Sector/Webber-Singapore/

  9. so after reading this I called my friend down in Singapore to see if there is some plan to run some race before the GP weekend.

    Well, no, there is no plan, at least nothing that is advertised. It is very brave from the organizers I would say, but on the other hand it would not be as simple as in Valencia. The race track in Singapore uses only public roads and I would say about 80% of it cuts through the busiest part of the city center. The only part of the track specially constructed for the race was the part between the Singapore flyer and the turn 1. All the rest are just the original roads with new asphalt from Shell.

    I think it would be almost impossible for them to put the city to the standstill for more than one weekend :-)

    The other thing that I asked is how has the weather been. You know in Singapore it is about the same for the whole year. Very hot, humid and it either does not rain or rains :-) . It is the tropics, pretty much right there on the equator. There was not much heavy rain these days, but what I heard it tends to shower towards the evenings, arouynd the time people leave offices, that is around the time the track will be getting ready for action next weekend :-)

  10. Brett M said on 17th September 2008, 4:44

    Surely the drivers will have practice sessions on the Friday and Saturday during daylight hours along with the night practice sessions!?
    Adelaide did not have a ‘test’ prior to the 1985 GP – but that was in the daylight

  11. Joseph C said on 17th September 2008, 5:24

    Well, I’m from Singapore and I must say that milos is right on the money. It is rather impossible to stop traffic into the city for a single weekend, much less a couple weekends for testing. I’m not sure what is going on behind the scenes but I’m sure looking forward to it.

    Weather wise, it’s hot and humid. But, at night it tends to cool down to a reasonable temperature. As for rain, it’s Singapore, you never know when it’ll rain. =) Keeping my fingers crossed though, I don’t hope for another rainy race after the last two races.

    Speaking of rain, if it pours like what we occasionally get in Singapore, it might pose some problems. Visibility tends to be very very poor during heavier downpours, even for regular drivers like me. Wonder how it’ll work out at F1 speeds?

  12. Journeyer said on 17th September 2008, 6:30

    ‘Surely the drivers will have practice sessions on the Friday and Saturday during daylight hours along with the night practice sessions!?
    Adelaide did not have a ‘test’ prior to the 1985 GP – but that was in the daylight’

    Nope, FP1 is right at the sunset. This was requested by the drivers themselves, who wanted all the sessions at night so they can acclimatise to the probably reduced light levels.

    And yes, I believe Albert Park did not have a special race before F1, either. Only F1 and V8 Supercars race there, and they tend to do it on the same weekend, with V8 as a support race to F1.

    Thanks for the track info, Milos! Just learned that today. :)

    Just 11 days away now… can’t wait! :)

  13. Singapore being the organised city that it is , will ensure that everything runs perfectly , also track conditions will be inspected before the race. The only thing that may cause some chaos is the rain that is forecast – I don’t even want to imagine what the spray effect through floodlights will do to visability. Hopefully it will be dry.

  14. @ Journeyer – I will be “refreshing” some older posts on Singapore track etc in coming days with pics, you can learn more :-)

  15. Taimur said on 17th September 2008, 8:14

    Apparently they’ve got the spray effect covered aswell. If it rains, the floodlights, instead of pointing towards the circuit, change direction to counter the situation :) but we need a dry race…

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