Felipe Massa’s pit lane disaster (video)

Posted on | Author Keith Collantine

Ferrari suffered a disastrous problem during a pit stop for the second race this year. Felipe Massa was signalled to leave his pit box while the refuelling rig was stil attached to his car.

The F2008 wrenched the fuel hose from the refuelling rig and Massa joined the fast lane of the pits in front of Adrian Sutil with several metres of hose hanging out of his car.

Ironically, it was Sutil that Massa controversially pulled out in front of during the European Grand Prix at Valencia.

In today’s incident Massa had to stop at the end of the pit lane where his mechanics ran to him and, with some difficulty, removed the hose. He rejoined last and was later given a drive through penalty.

Ferrari had been using their semi-automatic lights system for releasing drivers from the pits, which was the focus of discussion after the Valencia race. When Massa made his second stop Ferrari used a traditional lollipop to release him.

Did they make a mistake by not using that to begin with? And will they stick to it in future?

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  1. And to think, that wouldn’t have happened if they still had a lollipop man. Someone physically standing there who could see that the hose hadn’t been removed, and therefore would not have given Massa the ‘green light’, so to speak.

    I did cheer when it happened though.

  2. The most embarrassing silly and unfortunately slightly dangerous moment of this whole season. Taking the topspot from Lewis red light incident in Montreal. Last years most stupendously incredible (or is that incredibly stupid?) moment was when Lewis parked in the tiniest available gravel pit in probably all of f1. That proved to the decisive moment for his title chances, I have reasons to believe that this hose incident will be regarded in the same way in terms of Massa’s WC chances.

  3. Since Ross Brawn departed Ferrari pit crews behave like a combined Keystone Cops and 3 Stooges in red outfits. Funny and embarrassing.

  4. I am a Ferrari fan to the core. I was angry when it happened live, but the more I watch the replays; I simply can’t stop laughing..

    Poor ferrari mechanics with large paunches running across the pit-lane.. reminds me of how I used to catch the bus everyday for college

  5. I’m with Zaphod @ #4, refuelling should be banned,

    Get back to low fuel qualifying so the fastest guy gets the pole, not the one with the least fuel as happens most of the time now.

    Start the race with full fuel gives the drivers a much greater challenge as the handling changes drastically as the fuel is used up plus the lap times get faster towards the end of the race.

    If we have to have it though then Ferrari’s system needs to be dropped, get a lollipop man back in front of the car. No one wants to see a mechanic getting killed or seriously hurt.

  6. Those who think the lollipop man could make the difference in stopping a driver should look at this:

    As for the Ferrari light system it should be outlawed.

  7. What has to happen before Ferrari have their lighting system banned?

    Kimi drives over one of his mechanics and doesn’t even get a fine. (And how is that mechanic BTW? Heard anything more about him, other than ‘He’s fine’).

    Massa leaves right in front of Sutil- gets a punishment that isn’t even in the book.

    Today he clearly got a green light. The system is flawed and should be banned before someone is seriously hurt. And again Sutil had the cheek to not brake before the Ferrari box.

    Very strange that Massa did recieved a drive through today, but heck, he wasn’t in the points, so why not.

  8. That was Button’s fault though, he drove THROUGH the lollipop.

  9. The above comment is about the video Rabi posted if it isn’t obvious.

  10. Jonathan Weighell
    28th September 2008, 21:36

    It doesn’t seem rocket science to me to add a sensor to the end of the refueling nozzle that can tell if it’s still connected? And if so, not allow the light to go green until it can sense that it’s been released?

    Or am I missing something?!

  11. @Jonathan Weighell – May be this will breach 6.5.1 of technical regulations?

  12. A fantastic race but lots more FIA inconsistancies.

    1 Why did Massa get a drive through. Should it not have been a 10,000 euro fine?

    2 Did Fernando not cut the chicane to gain a place on Button at the start.

    3 As the race finished several hours ago, why hasn’t Alonso had the victory ripped from his grasp by some part time official


    ps. Don’t they normally race in the day time???

  13. @Jonathan Weighell.

    I noticed that too…but only after the accident. Perhaps the problem was, to note it, before the accident.

    Ironically that accident now showed a defenitive advantage of the eletronic system, if they use a nozzle sensor, over the conventional Lollipop.

  14. As a Ferrari fan, this is just a disgrace. Ferrari’s incompetence this season has cost Felipe over 30 points already (mechanic unreliabilty in Australia and Hungary, plus pathetic teamwork messups in Canada and Singapore. Felipe would have won the last three) and it doesn’t look like it’ll stop. Oh, not to mention Kimi.

  15. Congrats to all the Lucky Lewis fans out there.

  16. I’m glad that Ferrari had such a terrible day, but i am not happy because people got hurt because of that.
    People are saying that Hamilton is arogant but in the last couple of races Massa is even more arogant allong with ferrari. I really hope that Mclaren and Hamilton get the championships

  17. I’m beginning to think that Sutil has upset Massa in a previous life – since they had two ‘incidents’ in the same race, the first in the pit lane and the second later in the race when Massa lost concentration.
    Perhaps we will see VJ writing to the FIA to investigate all these attempts to stop his driver from finishing a race?

  18. I agree with Saab #14: how come a safe refuelling stop under the safety car gets a harsher penalty than dangerously being released into the path of another car with half your refuelling rig still attached?

    I saw that Massa said he had “forgiven” his pit crew for the error. And they say Hamilton is conceited?

    It seemed Massa had another Silverstone race today. He totally gave up at the back. He may as well have just pulled up and gone to bed. Hardly the mark of a possible world champion.

  19. I agree with DG @36, it did look like Massa precipitated the accident which saw Sutil go out, by driving out of the barrier right across the front of him, leaving him unable to turn in and with no place to go but straight on into the barriers. Any other team and driver might have incurred a grid place penalty for the next race. So a 10,000 Euro fine then and the blame on Sutil, who must have somehow caused Massa to go off in the first place. From 200 yards back.

  20. Sumedh, no. 23, I have to agree with you on this one. I can’t stop chuckling about it – it was like the Keystone cops, a real slapstick treat. And apparently the McLaren crew were cheering them on too (we will miss Ted Kravitz, Hell all the ITV team next year) which makes it even funnier. This will make me laugh for quite some time – a real comedy moment. It could make it onto one of those ‘People do the funniest things’ programmes. Those men really need to do some exercise in case this happens again.

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