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	<title>Comments on: Should F1 hold more night races?</title>
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		<title>By: Pink Peril</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/30/should-f1-hold-more-night-races/comment-page-4/#comment-219253</link>
		<dc:creator>Pink Peril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although the race was a great one, that really had nothing to do with the fact that the race was held at night. 

ALthough the lights did set off the paint jobs of the cars so they looked awesome, I really can&#039;t say that I thought being held at night added anything to it.

Perhaps it was so that it would be a bit cooler for the fans than sitting out in those unshaded grandstands during the heat of the day? ;)

I think one is enough - even too many if truth be told. Just a gimmick, and what we want is racing, not image and trickery.

I do have a couple of awesome shots of the the cars at sunset though, which I&#039;ll post on the drop io at sidepodcast if anyone is interested in seeing them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although the race was a great one, that really had nothing to do with the fact that the race was held at night. </p>
<p>ALthough the lights did set off the paint jobs of the cars so they looked awesome, I really can&#8217;t say that I thought being held at night added anything to it.</p>
<p>Perhaps it was so that it would be a bit cooler for the fans than sitting out in those unshaded grandstands during the heat of the day? <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think one is enough &#8211; even too many if truth be told. Just a gimmick, and what we want is racing, not image and trickery.</p>
<p>I do have a couple of awesome shots of the the cars at sunset though, which I&#8217;ll post on the drop io at sidepodcast if anyone is interested in seeing them.</p>
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		<title>By: Gman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 04:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you on that Roy- while Singapore turned out well overall, they are featureless for the most part to TV viewers. That&#039;s just one more reason on top of many that the USGP should not go back to Vegas- hopefully Bernie remembers that :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you on that Roy- while Singapore turned out well overall, they are featureless for the most part to TV viewers. That&#8217;s just one more reason on top of many that the USGP should not go back to Vegas- hopefully Bernie remembers that <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Roy Newton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Newton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I hate street races from a television viewpoint (with the exception of Monaco). All the concrete block side walls and catch fencing everywhere makes tracks featureless, eg. Detroit and Las Vegas. 

Now putting one on at night is like watching a race in the Dartford tunnel. I&#039;m sure the spectacle was great if you were there, but for once I find myself in agreement with Sig.Luca and not with Mr.Ron - just one a year is more than enough for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I hate street races from a television viewpoint (with the exception of Monaco). All the concrete block side walls and catch fencing everywhere makes tracks featureless, eg. Detroit and Las Vegas. </p>
<p>Now putting one on at night is like watching a race in the Dartford tunnel. I&#8217;m sure the spectacle was great if you were there, but for once I find myself in agreement with Sig.Luca and not with Mr.Ron &#8211; just one a year is more than enough for me.</p>
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		<title>By: klong</title>
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		<dc:creator>klong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The energy used by the lights is equivalent to lighting 2400 homes.
If 2.4 million homes in Europe watch it in daylight, we have 1000 times savings on energy.
Big picture scenario -- Super environmentally friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The energy used by the lights is equivalent to lighting 2400 homes.<br />
If 2.4 million homes in Europe watch it in daylight, we have 1000 times savings on energy.<br />
Big picture scenario &#8212; Super environmentally friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Gman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 05:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed one or two night races a season is a good idea- it mixes things up and lets everyone have some fun, while also providing a bit of a different experience for the fans at the venue. But if a large number of them are scheduled, I believe the concept will lose it&#039;s novelty and appeal, and will just turn into another gimmic that won&#039;t sit well with teams, drivers and fans alike. 

I find it interesting that Sepang apaprently has ruled out the night racing concept, as I thought they would do anything to keep Bernie happy (don&#039;t they pay the highest sanctioning fee for their GP each season?)In terms of Japan, I know the GP is supposed to alternate between Suzuka and Fuji, so is Bernie pushing one or both of these venues to go under the lights in the future?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed one or two night races a season is a good idea- it mixes things up and lets everyone have some fun, while also providing a bit of a different experience for the fans at the venue. But if a large number of them are scheduled, I believe the concept will lose it&#8217;s novelty and appeal, and will just turn into another gimmic that won&#8217;t sit well with teams, drivers and fans alike. </p>
<p>I find it interesting that Sepang apaprently has ruled out the night racing concept, as I thought they would do anything to keep Bernie happy (don&#8217;t they pay the highest sanctioning fee for their GP each season?)In terms of Japan, I know the GP is supposed to alternate between Suzuka and Fuji, so is Bernie pushing one or both of these venues to go under the lights in the future?</p>
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		<title>By: gaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>gaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 16:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>night races great lets not spoil a good thing one a year (two at a push) is ample..................

next time let it rain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>night races great lets not spoil a good thing one a year (two at a push) is ample&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>next time let it rain.</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the lights were powered by their own generators? And I think I saw a comment somewhere about them being the latest in &#039;Clean&#039; diesel technology, which was rather offset by the fact that there were 2 or 3 of them for the event....
Now, did anyone who was there go looking for them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the lights were powered by their own generators? And I think I saw a comment somewhere about them being the latest in &#8216;Clean&#8217; diesel technology, which was rather offset by the fact that there were 2 or 3 of them for the event&#8230;.<br />
Now, did anyone who was there go looking for them?</p>
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		<title>By: Loki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deeza:

&lt;blockquote&gt;If that is your mindset, why have Formula 1 races at all? Who needs petrol heads burning fuel and rubber like no tomorrow. Then… let’s look at Football. Why play games at night, just make every game of every league a daytime match! Where does it end? That only enviro friendly sports and activities should be indulged in? - Give me a break!!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you&#039;ve taken it slightly out of context - the point I was making is that the environment issues and cost didn&#039;t produce a mind blowing experience (for me, at least).  I&#039;m not going to do much about the environment in that respect, but after the race I felt it was just an excercise - worth watching to see what it was like, but I&#039;m not convinced it&#039;s worth all the while. In the end, it was a city that lights itself up at night anyway, so what&#039;s another 3.18MWatt over the weekend, right? 

I&#039;m not going to protest over another night race, the cars look magnificent at night, but I think F1 needs to pump money on making the actual racing better rather than into shiny lights.

If I was that much an environmentalist I probably wouldn&#039;t support F1 at all, but everyone&#039;s conscious of the environment in their own way and offset it in different ways and views.  Keith&#039;s revelations about the lights coming from fossil fuel sources is also another subject - F1 has been, and should continue to be, the showcase of the pinnacle of technology...and this should extend past the cars themselves in areas such as safety, and in the case of night races: lighting and power.  For which the Abu Dubai concept sounds good if it is to be run through hydrogen.

And I think F1, and indeed most other motorsport, has to show environmental concerns because we&#039;re not all going to be burning fuel forever like we once did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deeza:</p>
<blockquote><p>If that is your mindset, why have Formula 1 races at all? Who needs petrol heads burning fuel and rubber like no tomorrow. Then… let’s look at Football. Why play games at night, just make every game of every league a daytime match! Where does it end? That only enviro friendly sports and activities should be indulged in? &#8211; Give me a break!!</p></blockquote>
<p>I think you&#8217;ve taken it slightly out of context &#8211; the point I was making is that the environment issues and cost didn&#8217;t produce a mind blowing experience (for me, at least).  I&#8217;m not going to do much about the environment in that respect, but after the race I felt it was just an excercise &#8211; worth watching to see what it was like, but I&#8217;m not convinced it&#8217;s worth all the while. In the end, it was a city that lights itself up at night anyway, so what&#8217;s another 3.18MWatt over the weekend, right? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to protest over another night race, the cars look magnificent at night, but I think F1 needs to pump money on making the actual racing better rather than into shiny lights.</p>
<p>If I was that much an environmentalist I probably wouldn&#8217;t support F1 at all, but everyone&#8217;s conscious of the environment in their own way and offset it in different ways and views.  Keith&#8217;s revelations about the lights coming from fossil fuel sources is also another subject &#8211; F1 has been, and should continue to be, the showcase of the pinnacle of technology&#8230;and this should extend past the cars themselves in areas such as safety, and in the case of night races: lighting and power.  For which the Abu Dubai concept sounds good if it is to be run through hydrogen.</p>
<p>And I think F1, and indeed most other motorsport, has to show environmental concerns because we&#8217;re not all going to be burning fuel forever like we once did.</p>
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		<title>By: John Spencer</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/09/30/should-f1-hold-more-night-races/comment-page-4/#comment-218087</link>
		<dc:creator>John Spencer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 10:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bernie doesen&#039;t care about us - the people who visit f1fanatic - because we tend to watch F1 whenever it is on.  He wants to maximise the TV audience.  If the peak audience is in Europe, he would prefer races to be at peak viewing times in Europe, which is more likely to be early evening than afternoon. According to this logic, the Australian GP could be held at dawn, to show late Saturday night in Europe. And Singapore should have been at 3am. Not so good for packing the grandstands, perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bernie doesen&#8217;t care about us &#8211; the people who visit f1fanatic &#8211; because we tend to watch F1 whenever it is on.  He wants to maximise the TV audience.  If the peak audience is in Europe, he would prefer races to be at peak viewing times in Europe, which is more likely to be early evening than afternoon. According to this logic, the Australian GP could be held at dawn, to show late Saturday night in Europe. And Singapore should have been at 3am. Not so good for packing the grandstands, perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith - Perhaps Ron was having a quiet dig at Bernie? Bernie says that he wants the night races to appeal more to the European market, but surely at the same time isn&#039;t he increasing the market in the Middle East and Asia?
So surely a European night race is just as reasonable as an Asian one? Or, as I think an American one, where they know about these things already, and if its somewhere exciting like LA or Las Vegas, it would be a crowd-puller.
And, you may recall I do object to the idea of night races on cost and enviromental grounds, especially since Bernie insisted on it, but didn&#039;t have to pay for it!
Maybe the Credit Crunch will see the end of all Bernie&#039;s high-spend ideas for next year? Simple F1 cars anyone? Like in the 70s?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith &#8211; Perhaps Ron was having a quiet dig at Bernie? Bernie says that he wants the night races to appeal more to the European market, but surely at the same time isn&#8217;t he increasing the market in the Middle East and Asia?<br />
So surely a European night race is just as reasonable as an Asian one? Or, as I think an American one, where they know about these things already, and if its somewhere exciting like LA or Las Vegas, it would be a crowd-puller.<br />
And, you may recall I do object to the idea of night races on cost and enviromental grounds, especially since Bernie insisted on it, but didn&#8217;t have to pay for it!<br />
Maybe the Credit Crunch will see the end of all Bernie&#8217;s high-spend ideas for next year? Simple F1 cars anyone? Like in the 70s?</p>
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