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	<title>Comments on: No Canadian GP on 2009 F1 calendar</title>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2008/10/07/no-canadian-gp-on-2009-f1-calendar/comment-page-7/#comment-223365</link>
		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blinking marvelous i was planning trip to see relatives over there at that time,to visit gp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blinking marvelous i was planning trip to see relatives over there at that time,to visit gp</p>
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		<title>By: Gman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polak, you make some very good statements with your last two paragraphs, but in reference to my point, what I mean is that someday, God willing, a different attitude will prevail among those who make the decisions on what nations get GPs. I wish Bernie a long and healthy life, and hopefully the change I speak of will come in the form of him realising the importance of North America and Europe, and therefore brining some events back here- he showed a sign of that at Spa and hopefully both the Canadain and U.S. races will be back. But in any event, hopefully someday the tide will shift back to our shores- the teams and sponsors demand it, and hopefully they will get their wishes soon. When it dose, the good people who visit sites like this will be here waiting for it- very simple issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polak, you make some very good statements with your last two paragraphs, but in reference to my point, what I mean is that someday, God willing, a different attitude will prevail among those who make the decisions on what nations get GPs. I wish Bernie a long and healthy life, and hopefully the change I speak of will come in the form of him realising the importance of North America and Europe, and therefore brining some events back here- he showed a sign of that at Spa and hopefully both the Canadain and U.S. races will be back. But in any event, hopefully someday the tide will shift back to our shores- the teams and sponsors demand it, and hopefully they will get their wishes soon. When it dose, the good people who visit sites like this will be here waiting for it- very simple issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Pink Peril</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pink Peril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I didn&#039;t see &lt;strong&gt;that&lt;/strong&gt; coming at all. And not happy about it.

Might this be the impetus we need for the break away series we keep hearing about, but never actually seems to happen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I didn&#8217;t see <strong>that</strong> coming at all. And not happy about it.</p>
<p>Might this be the impetus we need for the break away series we keep hearing about, but never actually seems to happen?</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Collantine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The teams are trying to get Canada back on the schedule: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71237&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;story&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The teams are trying to get Canada back on the schedule: <a href="http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71237" rel="nofollow">story</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Polak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gman suggested that the N Americans should keep up their interest in F1 to prove critics wrong. This I do not agree with. There is not a single race on next years calendar that comes on at a decent hour. I have to wake up early morning on Saturday and Sunday to watch a GP. Many times I have to fight away sleep because nothing happens. I say **** it. If they don&#039;t want to race in N America why should I go out of my way to watch other GPs? I like F1 a lot but its become more of a chore than entertainment. 

I was going to pack my car next year and take a drive to the Canadian GP, this axe really makes me mad! 

One thing that wasn&#039;t mentioned is F1 responsibility to the host nation/city. Imagine how many small businesses in Montreal rely and plan on the Canadian GP that had a valid contract to 2011. It&#039;s outrageous for F1 to just cut a venue with no heads up! This should stir up a lot of outrage, even from parties not directly involved. Other venues need to take notice and put some pressure on Ecclestone and FIA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gman suggested that the N Americans should keep up their interest in F1 to prove critics wrong. This I do not agree with. There is not a single race on next years calendar that comes on at a decent hour. I have to wake up early morning on Saturday and Sunday to watch a GP. Many times I have to fight away sleep because nothing happens. I say **** it. If they don&#8217;t want to race in N America why should I go out of my way to watch other GPs? I like F1 a lot but its become more of a chore than entertainment. </p>
<p>I was going to pack my car next year and take a drive to the Canadian GP, this axe really makes me mad! </p>
<p>One thing that wasn&#8217;t mentioned is F1 responsibility to the host nation/city. Imagine how many small businesses in Montreal rely and plan on the Canadian GP that had a valid contract to 2011. It&#8217;s outrageous for F1 to just cut a venue with no heads up! This should stir up a lot of outrage, even from parties not directly involved. Other venues need to take notice and put some pressure on Ecclestone and FIA</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ludicrous - the most watched, best attended and probably most fun stop on the tour is lifted &quot;sans explination&quot;.  

It&#039;s pathetic Bernie.  

If you want a better track, then say so.  If you want more money, then say so.  If just don&#039;t want the &quot;hassle&quot; of a trip across Atlantic, then say so.  Just quit acting like a spoiled child.  Seriously, grow up and start acting like a man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ludicrous &#8211; the most watched, best attended and probably most fun stop on the tour is lifted &#8220;sans explination&#8221;.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s pathetic Bernie.  </p>
<p>If you want a better track, then say so.  If you want more money, then say so.  If just don&#8217;t want the &#8220;hassle&#8221; of a trip across Atlantic, then say so.  Just quit acting like a spoiled child.  Seriously, grow up and start acting like a man.</p>
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		<title>By: Linda N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this statement from another F1 fan sums it all up!!!!

F1 leadership seems to be convinced that it doesn&#039;t need North America. No drivers, no teams, and now, no races. Admittedly, with NASCAR, they are facing stiff competition. Soccer (football) seems to do just fine without a significant presence here, so the authorities may be right. Compounding things is F1&#039;s reputation state-side...start with the Indy debacle, the perceived &quot;elitist&quot; attitudes, the lack of passing on track, and the shoddy treatment of Scott Speed. Those are a lot of negatives to overcome. Perhaps too many.

Nevertheless, you&#039;d think that the manufacturers would have a little self-interest in mind. Sure, Ferrari will sell every car they send to the US, but how about BMW and Mercedes?

I think that we need to lean more on BMW and Mercedes in letting them know how we feel in North America. They have a web site that people have been leaving comments all day www.bmw.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this statement from another F1 fan sums it all up!!!!</p>
<p>F1 leadership seems to be convinced that it doesn&#8217;t need North America. No drivers, no teams, and now, no races. Admittedly, with NASCAR, they are facing stiff competition. Soccer (football) seems to do just fine without a significant presence here, so the authorities may be right. Compounding things is F1&#8242;s reputation state-side&#8230;start with the Indy debacle, the perceived &#8220;elitist&#8221; attitudes, the lack of passing on track, and the shoddy treatment of Scott Speed. Those are a lot of negatives to overcome. Perhaps too many.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, you&#8217;d think that the manufacturers would have a little self-interest in mind. Sure, Ferrari will sell every car they send to the US, but how about BMW and Mercedes?</p>
<p>I think that we need to lean more on BMW and Mercedes in letting them know how we feel in North America. They have a web site that people have been leaving comments all day <a href="http://www.bmw.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.bmw.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: pSynrg</title>
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		<dc:creator>pSynrg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As amusing as &#039;Spanky&#039; is as a name I think &#039;Der Führer&#039; more appropiate?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As amusing as &#8216;Spanky&#8217; is as a name I think &#8216;Der Führer&#8217; more appropiate?</p>
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		<title>By: Gman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobby, that&#039;s a bunch of great info- thanks very much for the insights!! I had never considered the Skip Barber idea before now- it makes sense but if Bernie is indeed going to go to Vegas, I don;t know if he could resist the allure of trying a Valencia/Singapore-style deal with allt hsoe fancy casinos in the background. I also never knew Santander has a minority stake in Sovreign- that bank was founded by a fellow Wilkes Univeristy alum who now has his name on the business school. 

Depressing article from Grandprix.com- there are of couse many similarities to Indy, but it seems very odd that if the GP was in financial difficulties, that it would just suddenly fold up and disappear with no warning given to the promoters.  I don&#039;t know how much of a role either Bernie or Max had in the whole thing, but from what I can see the teams had been rininging Bernie&#039;s bell on two issues recently....

1. The importance of the North American market
2. Keeping the 3-week break and reducing/limiting the number of races

Putting those two factors together, Bernie probably cooked up a way to spite the teams and said &quot;Hey, I&#039;ll be a nice guy and give you your break back. But there&#039;s no free lunch in my cafe, and you&#039;re going to play by my rules, which means I put one of MY races in to replace the last obstacle to me taking F1 away from the uninterested North American market&quot;

At the end of the day, you&#039;ve got two of the world&#039;s leading industrial, political and military powers- both members of the G8 group of nations- who have both lost their GPs in successive seasons, and the entire Western hemisphere is left with one- ONE- GP!! I&#039;m sure this wekeend in Fuji you&#039;ll see a group of team reps- led by Nick Fry and Dr. Mario- kick down the door to Bernie&#039;s hospitality unit and demand answers about the whole deal, but I doubt it will produce any real change now that the deal is done for 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobby, that&#8217;s a bunch of great info- thanks very much for the insights!! I had never considered the Skip Barber idea before now- it makes sense but if Bernie is indeed going to go to Vegas, I don;t know if he could resist the allure of trying a Valencia/Singapore-style deal with allt hsoe fancy casinos in the background. I also never knew Santander has a minority stake in Sovreign- that bank was founded by a fellow Wilkes Univeristy alum who now has his name on the business school. </p>
<p>Depressing article from Grandprix.com- there are of couse many similarities to Indy, but it seems very odd that if the GP was in financial difficulties, that it would just suddenly fold up and disappear with no warning given to the promoters.  I don&#8217;t know how much of a role either Bernie or Max had in the whole thing, but from what I can see the teams had been rininging Bernie&#8217;s bell on two issues recently&#8230;.</p>
<p>1. The importance of the North American market<br />
2. Keeping the 3-week break and reducing/limiting the number of races</p>
<p>Putting those two factors together, Bernie probably cooked up a way to spite the teams and said &#8220;Hey, I&#8217;ll be a nice guy and give you your break back. But there&#8217;s no free lunch in my cafe, and you&#8217;re going to play by my rules, which means I put one of MY races in to replace the last obstacle to me taking F1 away from the uninterested North American market&#8221;</p>
<p>At the end of the day, you&#8217;ve got two of the world&#8217;s leading industrial, political and military powers- both members of the G8 group of nations- who have both lost their GPs in successive seasons, and the entire Western hemisphere is left with one- ONE- GP!! I&#8217;m sure this wekeend in Fuji you&#8217;ll see a group of team reps- led by Nick Fry and Dr. Mario- kick down the door to Bernie&#8217;s hospitality unit and demand answers about the whole deal, but I doubt it will produce any real change now that the deal is done for 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeK</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If fly away costs to Canada are a rationale for dropping the venue, then Brazil must be next in line as well.

I still say it&#039;s Spanky getting back at his &quot;enemies&quot;.

Time for corporate governance as opposed to Max who treats the sport as his personal play pen, sans hookers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If fly away costs to Canada are a rationale for dropping the venue, then Brazil must be next in line as well.</p>
<p>I still say it&#8217;s Spanky getting back at his &#8220;enemies&#8221;.</p>
<p>Time for corporate governance as opposed to Max who treats the sport as his personal play pen, sans hookers.</p>
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