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	<title>Comments on: Alonso wins as Hamilton and Massa stumble (2008 Japanese Grand Prix)</title>
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		<title>By: hamish</title>
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		<dc:creator>hamish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 08:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey i think you right about vettel, great driver in what was a minardi.
It would be nice as andy has said to see ferrari and mclaren near the back,cant see it though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey i think you right about vettel, great driver in what was a minardi.<br />
It would be nice as andy has said to see ferrari and mclaren near the back,cant see it though.</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said amy-couldnt have put it better.
I think he thought he was going to be the new tiger woods(incidently hes an arrogent ******* as well like 4 like)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said amy-couldnt have put it better.<br />
I think he thought he was going to be the new tiger woods(incidently hes an arrogent ******* as well like 4 like)</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well hamin did say he was going to do his talking on the track and I think I got the message loud and clear he said; ‘I can’t take pressure, I can’t drive conservatively, I have not learned from last year and I am going to bollocks it up again, and I underestimated Massa’ . He is arrogant and cocky and for what? He has not proved himself as anything other than the most over rated driver in formula 1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well hamin did say he was going to do his talking on the track and I think I got the message loud and clear he said; ‘I can’t take pressure, I can’t drive conservatively, I have not learned from last year and I am going to bollocks it up again, and I underestimated Massa’ . He is arrogant and cocky and for what? He has not proved himself as anything other than the most over rated driver in formula 1.</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well personally speaking I CANT WAIT for next season-back on the beeb no ad breaks,back to basics for the cars.jenson near front again mclaren-ferrari near back?
we can only dream!!
one to watch next year vettel great chap always smiling,great sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well personally speaking I CANT WAIT for next season-back on the beeb no ad breaks,back to basics for the cars.jenson near front again mclaren-ferrari near back?<br />
we can only dream!!<br />
one to watch next year vettel great chap always smiling,great sport.</p>
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		<title>By: David - BR</title>
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		<dc:creator>David - BR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Quirky Indian

No, no dispute. Kovaleinen had bad luck this year since the start and has been driving in mediocre fashion a lot of the time. With Ferrari stronger than McLaren he was always going to be out of contention earlier in the season. Hamilton&#039;s wins and points have mostly been in rain where, basically, his skills are at their best. Not the result of McLaren providing him with more chances. He undoubtedly has more influence on the team, but I hugely doubt that he makes or could make the same demands posed by Alonso at Renault, say. 

Summing up the rest of the comments: Hamilton&#039;s huge attitude problem, brings his dad, only popular with the politically correct. Hmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Quirky Indian</p>
<p>No, no dispute. Kovaleinen had bad luck this year since the start and has been driving in mediocre fashion a lot of the time. With Ferrari stronger than McLaren he was always going to be out of contention earlier in the season. Hamilton&#8217;s wins and points have mostly been in rain where, basically, his skills are at their best. Not the result of McLaren providing him with more chances. He undoubtedly has more influence on the team, but I hugely doubt that he makes or could make the same demands posed by Alonso at Renault, say. </p>
<p>Summing up the rest of the comments: Hamilton&#8217;s huge attitude problem, brings his dad, only popular with the politically correct. Hmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mikel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here here jason.
trouble is which parlour would you find max to call the teams?lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here here jason.<br />
trouble is which parlour would you find max to call the teams?lol</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>could you see fangio or schumaccer having DADDY say goodbye every race?

what a horrible little upstart this guy is.
overprotected by mr dennis-not responsable for his own actions.

im ashamed to be called british if this twerp is representing us (oh i forgot he is swiss now).

He has brought nothing but arguments and shame to f1 because of his attitude and the way he trys playing the race card I.e the appeal!!

I look at f1 now with all this bitching and arguing and it reminds me of the prost senna era its gone back in time.

mr ecclestone or mad max needs to lay the law down on all this to the teams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>could you see fangio or schumaccer having DADDY say goodbye every race?</p>
<p>what a horrible little upstart this guy is.<br />
overprotected by mr dennis-not responsable for his own actions.</p>
<p>im ashamed to be called british if this twerp is representing us (oh i forgot he is swiss now).</p>
<p>He has brought nothing but arguments and shame to f1 because of his attitude and the way he trys playing the race card I.e the appeal!!</p>
<p>I look at f1 now with all this bitching and arguing and it reminds me of the prost senna era its gone back in time.</p>
<p>mr ecclestone or mad max needs to lay the law down on all this to the teams.</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 08:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last part of your comment quirky indian you are so right!!
hamilton has been protected by ron for to long.
previous comments about alonso are right as well.

i JUST HOPE FOR F1s sake that the man who has gone about his buisness quietly kubica wins as he is a true role model for all drivers.

Hamilton and alonso started all this bitching other drivers are involved now THIS is what i mean by bringing f1 into disripute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last part of your comment quirky indian you are so right!!<br />
hamilton has been protected by ron for to long.<br />
previous comments about alonso are right as well.</p>
<p>i JUST HOPE FOR F1s sake that the man who has gone about his buisness quietly kubica wins as he is a true role model for all drivers.</p>
<p>Hamilton and alonso started all this bitching other drivers are involved now THIS is what i mean by bringing f1 into disripute.</p>
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		<title>By: The Quirky Indian</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Quirky Indian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 04:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David-BR,

Any thoughts on the much-talked about &quot;McLaren Equality Policy&quot; now; is there any dispute that Hamilton is their No 1 driver? And has also said as much in public. So let&#039;s not just look at things from a British point of view, where Hamilton probably walks on water and also turns it into wine. 

And here&#039;s another thought - Alonso saying what he did about helping Massa seems anti-sporting to you; how would you react to something similar said by Hamilton? In that case, I suppose, it would just be his &#039;aggressiveness as a true-blue racing driver!&quot;.

Hamilton is a sublime driver, but with a huge attitude problem, and hopefully will not be able to hide behind Ron&#039;s apron for ever.

Cheers,

Quirky Indian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David-BR,</p>
<p>Any thoughts on the much-talked about &#8220;McLaren Equality Policy&#8221; now; is there any dispute that Hamilton is their No 1 driver? And has also said as much in public. So let&#8217;s not just look at things from a British point of view, where Hamilton probably walks on water and also turns it into wine. </p>
<p>And here&#8217;s another thought &#8211; Alonso saying what he did about helping Massa seems anti-sporting to you; how would you react to something similar said by Hamilton? In that case, I suppose, it would just be his &#8216;aggressiveness as a true-blue racing driver!&#8221;.</p>
<p>Hamilton is a sublime driver, but with a huge attitude problem, and hopefully will not be able to hide behind Ron&#8217;s apron for ever.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Quirky Indian</p>
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		<title>By: the limit</title>
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		<dc:creator>the limit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 03:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David - BR.


 Ofcourse Alonso does not want to see Lewis Hamilton succeed, and I seriously doubt he wants to see Felipe Massa win either. His comments are what they are, comments, words to get inside peoples heads.
 When the visor comes down and the lights go out, their are no friends on the race track, just rivals. Michael Schumacher was a genius for unnerving rivals with clever little comments made to the press, which often got the better of his rivals. Its the same in any, professional sport when there is alot at stake.
 I am not going to judge too harshly Alonso on his tactics concerning is profession. That is the way he is made, and why should he change? As Aryton Senna once said; &quot;You cannot be a person who others want you to be, you gotta be yourself&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David &#8211; BR.</p>
<p> Ofcourse Alonso does not want to see Lewis Hamilton succeed, and I seriously doubt he wants to see Felipe Massa win either. His comments are what they are, comments, words to get inside peoples heads.<br />
 When the visor comes down and the lights go out, their are no friends on the race track, just rivals. Michael Schumacher was a genius for unnerving rivals with clever little comments made to the press, which often got the better of his rivals. Its the same in any, professional sport when there is alot at stake.<br />
 I am not going to judge too harshly Alonso on his tactics concerning is profession. That is the way he is made, and why should he change? As Aryton Senna once said; &#8220;You cannot be a person who others want you to be, you gotta be yourself&#8221;.</p>
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