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	<title>Comments on: Could F1 make a return to Portugal at the Algarve International Circuit?</title>
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		<title>By: Roberto Almendra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberto Almendra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 13:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>would be great for the championchip.why should spain have 2 and portugal none.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>would be great for the championchip.why should spain have 2 and portugal none.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Collantine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That should be a great end to the GP2 season - hope we see the title decide there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That should be a great end to the GP2 season &#8211; hope we see the title decide there!</p>
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		<title>By: f203ga</title>
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		<dc:creator>f203ga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 10:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went to the Algarve Motor Park for the F1 test in January 2009. It&#039;s a great facility with unique access for the fans to the teams and drivers. The weather may not have been the best but I saw the unveiling of the new Williams and Renault, as well as meeting several top drivers over the five days. For a fan of many years the highlight for me was being shown around the Renault pit garage and seeing their new car up close, just three days after it was launched.
I hope it becomes a centre for F1 testing, because I would certainly go back next time they were in town. I was at another F1 event in summer 2008 and was talking with a Renault employee who was telling me of the increasing rumour in the paddock that Barcelona is to become only a testing venue for F1, the Spanish Grand Prix will move to the Valencia street track full time, and a Mediterranean Grand Prix will alternate between Jerez and Portimao. Whether this happens remains to be seen. I have also heard that Tony Texeria has bought some land around the track to build facilities for his A1GP winners F1 team, and USGPE may choose to have their European base in the area as well...
Still, I have already planned my next trip to the Algarve circuit; I am going to watch the GP2 finale there in September.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to the Algarve Motor Park for the F1 test in January 2009. It&#8217;s a great facility with unique access for the fans to the teams and drivers. The weather may not have been the best but I saw the unveiling of the new Williams and Renault, as well as meeting several top drivers over the five days. For a fan of many years the highlight for me was being shown around the Renault pit garage and seeing their new car up close, just three days after it was launched.<br />
I hope it becomes a centre for F1 testing, because I would certainly go back next time they were in town. I was at another F1 event in summer 2008 and was talking with a Renault employee who was telling me of the increasing rumour in the paddock that Barcelona is to become only a testing venue for F1, the Spanish Grand Prix will move to the Valencia street track full time, and a Mediterranean Grand Prix will alternate between Jerez and Portimao. Whether this happens remains to be seen. I have also heard that Tony Texeria has bought some land around the track to build facilities for his A1GP winners F1 team, and USGPE may choose to have their European base in the area as well&#8230;<br />
Still, I have already planned my next trip to the Algarve circuit; I am going to watch the GP2 finale there in September.</p>
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		<title>By: DanielPT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanielPT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gman - Yes, i agree that it is very friendly to tourists and VIPs (after his 8 olympic medals, Phelps decided that it would be nice a few days in Algarve!), but also a few regions around the globe, Marocco or Thailand for instance, and they don&#039;t have a GP. I also raised the driver point just because Spain and Germany (the more recent examples of new GPs because WDC). The new venues don&#039;t need a driver, they have cash... Finally, thanks for making a post in a subject that i thought it was only &quot;internal&quot; to Portugal!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gman &#8211; Yes, i agree that it is very friendly to tourists and VIPs (after his 8 olympic medals, Phelps decided that it would be nice a few days in Algarve!), but also a few regions around the globe, Marocco or Thailand for instance, and they don&#8217;t have a GP. I also raised the driver point just because Spain and Germany (the more recent examples of new GPs because WDC). The new venues don&#8217;t need a driver, they have cash&#8230; Finally, thanks for making a post in a subject that i thought it was only &#8220;internal&#8221; to Portugal!</p>
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		<title>By: Gman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 04:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, my thanks to all of you who have read and commented here- it is really amazing to see each of you from around the world take a few valuable moments to take a look at something I wrote!

Journeyer- Good idea about forcing a choice between Barcelona or Valencia- make them do a Germany- style deal and share the event. However, as long as Fernando and Bernie are both in F1, we all know Spain is going to get their two GPs each season. 

Milos/aok- I wrote the article and completed my correspondence with Mr. Pinheiro before the FIA inspection and the dropping of Canada- my fault for not asking Keith to provide some updated info on the dates of my work. aok, very good inside info and it seems to be a great venue, so we will see how the first few events play out. 

Robert- Indeed I was very curious about who designed the track. I was kicking myself after sending the questions for not asking about it and got a hidden blessing when Mr. Pinheiro address it anyway. I don&#039;t know how much that would factor into getting an F1 date, but the management are playing it smart by developing the circuit and offering a full schedule of events without basing it all around hopes for F1. 

DanielPT- As a native of Portugal, you obviously know a heck of alot more about the region than me. But on some of your points, I think the Algarve region appears very friendly to VIPs and tourists- for sure not a Magny-Cours. Also, it would be good for their causes to have a native driver, but many of the other new stops have never even had an F1 prospect, never mind a World Champion. Lastly, included in the development is a multi-configuration karting track that includes several tracks and a complete pits complex. 

Again, my thanks everyone :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, my thanks to all of you who have read and commented here- it is really amazing to see each of you from around the world take a few valuable moments to take a look at something I wrote!</p>
<p>Journeyer- Good idea about forcing a choice between Barcelona or Valencia- make them do a Germany- style deal and share the event. However, as long as Fernando and Bernie are both in F1, we all know Spain is going to get their two GPs each season. </p>
<p>Milos/aok- I wrote the article and completed my correspondence with Mr. Pinheiro before the FIA inspection and the dropping of Canada- my fault for not asking Keith to provide some updated info on the dates of my work. aok, very good inside info and it seems to be a great venue, so we will see how the first few events play out. </p>
<p>Robert- Indeed I was very curious about who designed the track. I was kicking myself after sending the questions for not asking about it and got a hidden blessing when Mr. Pinheiro address it anyway. I don&#8217;t know how much that would factor into getting an F1 date, but the management are playing it smart by developing the circuit and offering a full schedule of events without basing it all around hopes for F1. </p>
<p>DanielPT- As a native of Portugal, you obviously know a heck of alot more about the region than me. But on some of your points, I think the Algarve region appears very friendly to VIPs and tourists- for sure not a Magny-Cours. Also, it would be good for their causes to have a native driver, but many of the other new stops have never even had an F1 prospect, never mind a World Champion. Lastly, included in the development is a multi-configuration karting track that includes several tracks and a complete pits complex. </p>
<p>Again, my thanks everyone <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>chunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 02:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks too much like Magny or Catalunya, three sectors, fun to drive, and overtaking free.

Like Catalunya, it looks like it&#039;d be more fun on a motorcycle than in a car, and even in the motorcycles Estoril was probably the better venue.

Not to be too negative. ;)

I suppose we should reserve judgement for when there is actually a grand prix scheduled there, or for when a car takes a lap, since I thought Valencia was going to be awe-inspiring before I saw a car run on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks too much like Magny or Catalunya, three sectors, fun to drive, and overtaking free.</p>
<p>Like Catalunya, it looks like it&#8217;d be more fun on a motorcycle than in a car, and even in the motorcycles Estoril was probably the better venue.</p>
<p>Not to be too negative. <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I suppose we should reserve judgement for when there is actually a grand prix scheduled there, or for when a car takes a lap, since I thought Valencia was going to be awe-inspiring before I saw a car run on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 23:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Bernie will never approve it unless Ferrari tests on there and approves it, afterall Bernie is the Ferrari team boss, isn&#039;t he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Bernie will never approve it unless Ferrari tests on there and approves it, afterall Bernie is the Ferrari team boss, isn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		<title>By: DanielPT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DanielPT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Portuguese i believe that Mr Pinheiro is setting the bar too high. His hopes will be dashed. Being a test track doesn&#039;t mean anything. Just look at Estoril (it kept going as a test track for a few years after leaving the calendar) and Jerez. Anyway i will be glad if he proves me wrong...

First off all, Mr Ecclestone&#039;s grand prix fees. They are too high already and without any hopes of falling in near future. At least as long as somebody is willing to pay like this to receive a GP. And since there are lots of them in the waiting line, fees are only to get higher. Portugal doesn&#039;t have a lot of money. At least not oil money.
Second, it is not designed by Tilke, who is the only &#039;official&#039; circuit designer around. There aren&#039;t many new circuits in the calendar which were not designed by him.
Third, it is not flat. That seems, unfortunately, a shared characteristic in new circuits.
Fourth, it is not an exotic place like Singapure, Valencia docks, Abu Dhabi, Bahrein, India or even Malaysia. F1 seems to change to exotic locations nowadays. Maybe Caraibean Grand Prix is only a few years away. Ecclestone will construct a venue there for his deep pocket friends that own an island nearby. Anyway, that should have more attendance than Bahrain.
Fifth, Spain has already 2 GPs that are relatively close from Algarve. Unless that changes i do not see them do another GP in the same region. But, of course, if Ecclestone wants to call it Formula 1 Iberian Championship...
Sixth, Portugal doesn&#039;t have a world championship winner in F1 ranks. Today not even an F1 driver. And that, despite Alvaro Parente and Filipe Albuquerque, doesn&#039;t seems to be changing any time soon. 
Last but not the least, it looks more like a karting venue than a big F1 circuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Portuguese i believe that Mr Pinheiro is setting the bar too high. His hopes will be dashed. Being a test track doesn&#8217;t mean anything. Just look at Estoril (it kept going as a test track for a few years after leaving the calendar) and Jerez. Anyway i will be glad if he proves me wrong&#8230;</p>
<p>First off all, Mr Ecclestone&#8217;s grand prix fees. They are too high already and without any hopes of falling in near future. At least as long as somebody is willing to pay like this to receive a GP. And since there are lots of them in the waiting line, fees are only to get higher. Portugal doesn&#8217;t have a lot of money. At least not oil money.<br />
Second, it is not designed by Tilke, who is the only &#8216;official&#8217; circuit designer around. There aren&#8217;t many new circuits in the calendar which were not designed by him.<br />
Third, it is not flat. That seems, unfortunately, a shared characteristic in new circuits.<br />
Fourth, it is not an exotic place like Singapure, Valencia docks, Abu Dhabi, Bahrein, India or even Malaysia. F1 seems to change to exotic locations nowadays. Maybe Caraibean Grand Prix is only a few years away. Ecclestone will construct a venue there for his deep pocket friends that own an island nearby. Anyway, that should have more attendance than Bahrain.<br />
Fifth, Spain has already 2 GPs that are relatively close from Algarve. Unless that changes i do not see them do another GP in the same region. But, of course, if Ecclestone wants to call it Formula 1 Iberian Championship&#8230;<br />
Sixth, Portugal doesn&#8217;t have a world championship winner in F1 ranks. Today not even an F1 driver. And that, despite Alvaro Parente and Filipe Albuquerque, doesn&#8217;t seems to be changing any time soon.<br />
Last but not the least, it looks more like a karting venue than a big F1 circuit.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally a new circuit with some &lt;em&gt;gradient&lt;/em&gt;! 

Overall I think it looks pretty good. Very similar layout to Estoril, but that&#039;s not a bad thing. There&#039;s a crest between turn 4 and 5 that seems quite severe. Same with the crest at the beginning of the main straight. I was under the impression that those sort of rises and crests were not really possible under the FIA regs. But if they are, that&#039;s a good thing for F1, in my opinion. We just need track designers who will take advantage of it.

I&#039;d like to see Barcelona dropped for a year so F1 can give this track a go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally a new circuit with some <em>gradient</em>! </p>
<p>Overall I think it looks pretty good. Very similar layout to Estoril, but that&#8217;s not a bad thing. There&#8217;s a crest between turn 4 and 5 that seems quite severe. Same with the crest at the beginning of the main straight. I was under the impression that those sort of rises and crests were not really possible under the FIA regs. But if they are, that&#8217;s a good thing for F1, in my opinion. We just need track designers who will take advantage of it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see Barcelona dropped for a year so F1 can give this track a go.</p>
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		<title>By: Ponzonha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ponzonha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drop boring Montmeló and welcome Algarve. I love that region and the combination of sun, beach and F1 seems great to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drop boring Montmeló and welcome Algarve. I love that region and the combination of sun, beach and F1 seems great to me.</p>
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