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	<title>Comments on: Will Force India make a leap forward in 2009 after their McLaren deal?</title>
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		<title>By: bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is really a good steep by force india to take a hand of mers i hope they keep getting points in 2009</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is really a good steep by force india to take a hand of mers i hope they keep getting points in 2009</p>
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		<title>By: Striay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Striay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanx for the reply Keith sorry i didnt answer erlier ive got loads of homework (3 essays 12 science pgs)

im at GCSE but i dont know what to study at Uni any ideas ? 

Sorry for being off the subject!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanx for the reply Keith sorry i didnt answer erlier ive got loads of homework (3 essays 12 science pgs)</p>
<p>im at GCSE but i dont know what to study at Uni any ideas ? </p>
<p>Sorry for being off the subject!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bud</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure Ferrari are thrilled that McLaren will have 2 new wingmen protecting their drivers *****.
Nice move, love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure Ferrari are thrilled that McLaren will have 2 new wingmen protecting their drivers *****.<br />
Nice move, love it.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeK</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Granted with the new aero limitations there may be a bit (emphasis on a bit) of less aero testing required, but the car design will still be critical. Sooo, I think F.I won&#039;t score any points until year 3 of their deal, maybe a podium by year 5, but absolutely no wins.

And is it just me or does this sound like a buy into the team by McLaren? Why else would McLaren operations officer be named F.I.&#039;s COO??

Just wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granted with the new aero limitations there may be a bit (emphasis on a bit) of less aero testing required, but the car design will still be critical. Sooo, I think F.I won&#8217;t score any points until year 3 of their deal, maybe a podium by year 5, but absolutely no wins.</p>
<p>And is it just me or does this sound like a buy into the team by McLaren? Why else would McLaren operations officer be named F.I.&#8217;s COO??</p>
<p>Just wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: beneboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>beneboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Jason

Sorry mate, should have been a bit clearer earlier.

Using the customer team model of Red Bull/Toro Rosso where the cars are running different engines.
Or the McLaren/Force India model where the manufacturer supplies the engine/gearbox/drivetrain &amp; associated parts that the customer then builds a car around.

Either of these allows smaller teams to compete at vastly reduced costs without it being a complete clone of the manufacturers cars. The Red Bull/Toro Rosso set up makes perfect sense to me, it&#039;s always cheaper to make more of something so running 2 teams with a 1st team &amp; feeder team is a good solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Jason</p>
<p>Sorry mate, should have been a bit clearer earlier.</p>
<p>Using the customer team model of Red Bull/Toro Rosso where the cars are running different engines.<br />
Or the McLaren/Force India model where the manufacturer supplies the engine/gearbox/drivetrain &amp; associated parts that the customer then builds a car around.</p>
<p>Either of these allows smaller teams to compete at vastly reduced costs without it being a complete clone of the manufacturers cars. The Red Bull/Toro Rosso set up makes perfect sense to me, it&#8217;s always cheaper to make more of something so running 2 teams with a 1st team &amp; feeder team is a good solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JSC - Sauber ran an entire Ferrari rear-end one year, including engine, gearbox, suspension, uprights, etc. I think Prost did something similar in 2001, when their customer Ferrari units were badged as Acers. Another year (2004?), Sauber&#039;s car was remarkably similar to the 2003 Ferrari. But none of these brought the customer team any great success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JSC &#8211; Sauber ran an entire Ferrari rear-end one year, including engine, gearbox, suspension, uprights, etc. I think Prost did something similar in 2001, when their customer Ferrari units were badged as Acers. Another year (2004?), Sauber&#8217;s car was remarkably similar to the 2003 Ferrari. But none of these brought the customer team any great success.</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JSC: As for Mallya ditching Kolles and Gascoyne and appointing himself team principal

Thats got me thinking, have McLaren/Mercedes already told Force India to appoint the relevant people from Prodrive?
It would be a nice little swipe at FIA/FOM/Frank Williams wouldn&#039;t it?
Personally, I think Prodrive have gone back to racing Aston Martins, what they are very good at! - oh, and as a follow up to a previous article - the Merc/AM deal is reported to be to provide Maybach engines for a new Lagonda sports/luxury car range including SUVs etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JSC: As for Mallya ditching Kolles and Gascoyne and appointing himself team principal</p>
<p>Thats got me thinking, have McLaren/Mercedes already told Force India to appoint the relevant people from Prodrive?<br />
It would be a nice little swipe at FIA/FOM/Frank Williams wouldn&#8217;t it?<br />
Personally, I think Prodrive have gone back to racing Aston Martins, what they are very good at! &#8211; oh, and as a follow up to a previous article &#8211; the Merc/AM deal is reported to be to provide Maybach engines for a new Lagonda sports/luxury car range including SUVs etc</p>
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		<title>By: Florida Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florida Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Mercedes sees India as an important market and intends to use the Force India relationship to strengthen its position as the leading performance luxury brand</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Mercedes sees India as an important market and intends to use the Force India relationship to strengthen its position as the leading performance luxury brand</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Cooper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Cooper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah of course - extra mileage on the new equipment.
Cheers Keith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah of course &#8211; extra mileage on the new equipment.<br />
Cheers Keith.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Collantine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex - 
&lt;blockquote&gt;what do McLaren get out of this?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Money, more cars running their kit in testing, possibly a say in what drivers Force India uses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex &#8211; </p>
<blockquote><p>what do McLaren get out of this?</p></blockquote>
<p>Money, more cars running their kit in testing, possibly a say in what drivers Force India uses.</p>
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