F1 links: Gold medal plan still on

Just what the Doctor ordered

"Rossi appears not to take himself too seriously and remains a bit of a joker at heart – although he is deadly serious when it comes to winning races. One or two of the F1 drivers could take a leaf out of that book."

Ecclestone set on going for gold – Times Online

"Bernie Ecclestone, the sport's commercial rights-holder, confirmed yesterday that he is serious about dropping the points-based drivers' championship in favour of a medal-based title race, which he believes will make for more exciting racing." I still think it's a good idea

Lewis Hamilton steps off the podium and on to the postage stamp

"The Royal Mail is planning to honour Lewis Hamilton’s Formula One triumph with a commemorative set of stamps, The Times has learnt."

Honda burns record £147m in F1

"The Honda Formula One team has recorded the highest costs of any organisation in the sport, according to its latest accounts. Last year the team finished only eighth in the world championship but burned through £147m, with almost all the funding provided by the Japanese car company that owns the team."

Hamilton to race Hoy at Wembley

"Britain's triple Olympic cycling gold medallist Chris Hoy is to compete in a man versus machine race against Formula One champion Lewis Hamilton at Wembley." A nice PR stunt, but I'd rather see Hamilton going up against Michael Schumacher, David Coulthard, Jenson Button, Sebastian Vettel and the rest in the Race of Champions proper.

De la Rosa to test for Force India

"McLaren tester Pedro de la Rosa is to drive for the Force India Formula One team today and tomorrow at the Barcelona circuit."

Bosch and Magnetti Marelli reveal KERS

"Several manufacturers of electronic devices or hybrid drive solutions are presenting their own KERS, designed to meet the Formula One regulations for 2009. Two of them, Bosch and Magnetti Marelli have disclosed the details of their respective systems."

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88 comments on F1 links: Gold medal plan still on

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  1. Pete Walker said on 18th November 2008, 11:47

    I still think this medal idea is too big a change away from what Formula 1 is essentially all about. You shouldn’t just revolutionise the basis of a sport after more than half a century.

    Giving 12 points for a win would be enough incentive, but it looks as though the wheels are in motion for the medals scheme. A real shame.

  2. This is disappointing – I’d prefer the season to concentrate on consistency. With the medal system its probable we’d have a champion with 6-7 brilliant performances and 10-11 retirements (pushing the car too much for the win).

    It also reduces the likelyhood of a final race showdown massively.

    Disappointed. :(

  3. Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 18th November 2008, 11:57

    Tom –

    I’d prefer the season to concentrate on consistency.

    Why? What’s so good about consistency? This is the part of the counter-argument I don’t get.

    F1 to me isn’t about racking up lots of seconds and thirds, it’s about winning, and the champion should be the driver who wins the most races.

    It also reduces the likelyhood of a final race showdown massively.

    I think it’s more important that the best man wins than we have a system that artificially creates final-race showdowns. Using that logic we’d end up having NASCAR’s horrible ‘chase for the cup’ system.

  4. F1 to me isn’t about racking up lots of seconds and thirds, it’s about winning, and the champion should be the driver who wins the most races.

    Okay, would you prefer the winner to score 5 wins and 12 retirements, or the winner to score 4 wins and 13 second places?

  5. Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 18th November 2008, 12:45

    I’m sure you could come up with any number of incredibly unlikely scenarios but I still think the champion should be the driver who wins the most races.

  6. Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 18th November 2008, 12:52

    On the Race of Champions story, the reason Hamilton can’t compete is because he’s at the BBC Sports Personality of the Year awards.

  7. Patrickl said on 18th November 2008, 12:53

    I still think the medals are a horrible idea. It just makes no sense at all.

  8. Journeyer said on 18th November 2008, 13:40

    On the Race of Champions story, the reason Hamilton can’t compete is because he’s at the BBC Sports Personality of the Year awards.

    There’s a saying where I’m from that goes: “If you want to, there’s always a way. If you don’t want to, there’s always an excuse.”

    A simple tweak to the points system (giving maybe 12 points instead of 10 for a win) would restore the balance between winning and consistency. We don’t need to sacrifice one for the other.

  9. John Spencer said on 18th November 2008, 13:40

    Keith – do you think Bernie’s medal system will actually make much difference to the way drivers approach a race? Bernie says there will be more overtaking, presumably because anyone would chance a gold rather than go for a safe silver. Other than McLaren’s Interlagos strategy, how different would 2008 have been with a medals system?

  10. Other than McLaren’s Interlagos strategy, how different would 2008 have been with a medals system?

    Massa would have won despite relatively poor reliability and pitstop blunders. He might have been the best driver out there but the team has to be accountable.

  11. I really hope a medal system does’nt get introduced. As the first comment said you shouldn’t just change the system after 50+ years. If they want a win to be more significant to the standings just make the difference between 1st & 2nd points bigger.

    I wonder if we will soon have the suggestions of points for pole and fastest laps, sprint races, or weight handicaps for the driver that won last time out.

    They may work in other sports but to me it is not Formula 1.

  12. I agree the medals table system is an idea to be considered, however i would prefer the idea of re – introducing the old points system 10 – 6 – 4 ETC. Wasn’t it ecclestone that introduced the current point system?

  13. Its a bit counter intuitive because we’re so used to one particular system but i quite like the idea of medals. However could we not just ban pitstops? This would stop at least some of the tactical stuff.

  14. Pete Walker said on 18th November 2008, 14:20

    Another potential flaw with the system:
    Adrian Sutil in the Force India lucks into a third place early in the season after a safety car period. This places him higher than drivers who have raced their balls off to finish fifth or sixth in every race.

    After his third place, with the chances of another similar or better result extremely unlikely, he could coast for the rest of the year as his close rivals would have no chance of beating him in the championship.

    Is one third place worth more than 18 straight fourth places? I think not.

    The medal system might make it more exciting at the very front of the field, but I think mid-to-back of the grid racing could be stifled.

    Some drivers are fast. Some drivers are consistent. Its the drivers that are both that win championships. Consistency should be rewarded just as much as raw pace.

  15. Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 18th November 2008, 14:46

    Patrickl – It makes more sense to me than saying second place is 80% as valuable as a win, which is completely arbitrary. Winning is better than finishing second or anywhere else, so the champion should be the driver with the most wins. Makes perfect sense.

    Pete – If the safety car is artificially creating freak results (and we all know it is) then that’s a problem with the safety car rules.

    The purpose of the medals/points system is not to make up for deficiencies in other parts of the rule book, it should be to determine who is the most deserving champion based on their race results.

    Loads more on this:

    Bernie Ecclestone is right: ‘Gold medals’ would make F1 more exciting
    A new answer to the points argument
    Prizes for places, not points
    Places not points revisited
    The argument against championship points
    Hamilton leads title race – with no wins!
    The leaders are losers

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