Comments on: What was the best F1 pass of 2008?

By: michael counsell

michael counsell — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:39:25 +0000

Vettel on Glock at Interlagos surely opened teh door for Hamilton…

Seriously though the 3 double overtakes of Heidfeld was the most impressive becuase he can read a situation like no one else in F1. It wasn’t about having a faster engine, braking later, having the right tyres. It was all about positioning the car in the right place and making the pass. It is a rare skill. His pass on Alonso at Bahrain last year one of the best I have ever seen.

By: Becken

Becken — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:08:49 +0000

Fans demand more overtaking in the 2008 ING/F1 Racing Survey. — 96 percent of respondents said that they wanted more exciting racing and OVERTAKING.Jonathan Noble written:

The survey results suggest that the quality of the racing remains the key factor for fans.

(At least, we have Hamilton and Heidfeld at the grid to satisfy the fans!)I think they should have shown those results before SPA. Can someone imagine if we have a bunch of Kubicas on the grid?Keith, given the 2008 ING/F1 Racing Survey results, I think you should instate another poll at your blog: Who is the most exciting driver of Formula 1 today?

By: Antifia

Antifia — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:18:58 +0000

Patrick:
It is difficult to get your point. You say that you are more attracted to the fights where the cars are more or less equal but you don’t like Massa’s moves in Canada and Hungary. In Canada he overtook Kovi’s Mclaren (with Rubens as a bonus) and in Hungary it was Lewis’ Mclaren. Could it be more equal?
You seem to like LH moves, that is what I get. In Monza, most of his overtakes were agains also runs. In Hockenheim, he was lapping close to 2secs a lap faster than Massa’s Ferrari when he overtook him – and then he went on to overtake a Renault. Hardly a car in the same league of Mclaren

By: XYZ

XYZ — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:48:15 +0000

ok, so for me its Kubica for overtaking Hamilton, Raikkonen, Kovalainen, Massa and Alonso in a single move at Fuji

By: Patrickl

Patrickl — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:27:37 +0000

If people keep mentioning Massa’s start at Hungary and his overtaking two drivers who were sliding off line at Canada, then why not suggest Kubica for overtaking Hamilton, Raikkonen, Kovalainen, Massa and Alonso in a single move at Fuji?

Personally I’m more attracted to the fights for position where the cars are more or less equal and the driver fight for several corners to take and/or defend their position. Like Raikkonen and Kubica fighting for third at Fuji, or the overtaking moves of Hamilton at Hockenheim and Monza.

By: shery

shery — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:11:36 +0000

kimi on massa spa/.my fav

By: Terry Fabulous

Terry Fabulous — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:33:53 +0000

Ben

Right on! That was a corker

By: ben

ben — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:02:55 +0000

Im amazed no one else remembers Lewis amazing overtake on Webber at Monza that even blew Brundle away! Out of the pits onto a wet track and straight past at the second chicane. Phenomenal!

By: Matt Fallon

Matt Fallon — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:38:41 +0000

I reckon Massa’s pass on Webber at Fuji should definitely have had a few more mentions. Seeing Webber squeezing and Massa threading the needle between the pit wall and Webber to finally get past, i thought was breathtaking!

By: Ted Tofield

Ted Tofield — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:24:44 +0000

Heidfeld’s last lap at Spa was pretty impressive….but he was on different tyre so I guess that doesn’t count eh?

By: Cameron

Cameron — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:23:00 +0000

I think alonso’s last lap at Spa was pretty impressive.

Although the cars will look like crap, I’m looking forward to the closers races and more passing oppertunities.

By: Lenny

Lenny — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:02:03 +0000

Another one no one mentioned was lewis on kubica at monza lewis was on his outlap from changing to inters and took him at the roggia chicane. Also when lewis took fisichella at interlagos, this was such a good pass because hamilton had to go onto the wet line of the track

By: sumedh

sumedh — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:43:07 +0000

Hamilton on Kimi at Spa at La Source wasn’t a really good pass. Kimi made a foolish mistake; going too defensive.

Massa’s pass on Hamilton at Hungary was good. Hamilton’s on Kimi at Monza was good too

By: Jess

Jess — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:33:14 +0000

Massa on Kovalainen and Barrichello

By: Too Good

Too Good — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 03:54:16 +0000

Keith

Should drivers passing cars on the wrong tyres for the conditions count (e.g. Hamilton on Glock and Alonso on Kubica and Vettel)?

Every overtaken driver will have some disadvantage or other maybe tyre wear, maybe fuel load, maybe lack of traction.
If Keith your logic is to be agreed to (and I think should be agreed to) all overtakes of Silver cars of Red Cars should have to be disqualified. For everyone who knows enough about F1 was aware that Ferrari drivers were essentially fighting with one hand tied to their backs when it came to wet weather conditions given that McLaren cars were able to work better with tyres.

By: KAUSHAL

KAUSHAL — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 02:19:26 +0000

as dolec said…
kubica on vettel on Hamilton.. brazil..:)

between it seems that only the top driver are being included.what about the rear cars in the grid? there is also overtaking in those ones,but TV channels often don’t show it.

By: dolec

dolec — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:59:55 +0000

??????….. Kubica on Vettel on Hamilton….:) last lap Brasil

By: Patrickl

Patrickl — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:31:40 +0000

How odd that the suggested video’s show situations where a driver has an advantage because of the tyres, a better start, two other drivers pushing each other off etc

I guess real overtaking moves are not as entertaining …

By: Jason

Jason — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:45:51 +0000

Hamilton on Massa – Hockenheim video
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x66zie_hamilton-vs-massa-hockenheim-2008_sport

By: Steve

Steve — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:39:48 +0000

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7FzNZSaKOsQ
Hamilton v Kimi at Spa