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	<title>Comments on: Should F1 drivers take pay cuts?</title>
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		<title>By: Declan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Declan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 22:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes i think they should but not a major one just an amount that could be spent on other things within the team. but the reason why i think they should is by looking at Jenson Button nearly £20million a year and only getting 3 points!!!! now how can that be....? no wonder honda went bust they are just waisting money..!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes i think they should but not a major one just an amount that could be spent on other things within the team. but the reason why i think they should is by looking at Jenson Button nearly £20million a year and only getting 3 points!!!! now how can that be&#8230;.? no wonder honda went bust they are just waisting money..!</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Snowcat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Snowcat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Oliver, Lewis isn’t earning as much as Button unbelievably enough!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you&#039;ll find Lewis is meant to be on £70 mill for 5 years whilst Jense is on £8m a year... (plus personal sponsorship rights)...

I&#039;d say that makes Lewis as earning nearly twice what Jenson is getting... as a minimum....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Oliver, Lewis isn’t earning as much as Button unbelievably enough!</p></blockquote>
<p>I think you&#8217;ll find Lewis is meant to be on £70 mill for 5 years whilst Jense is on £8m a year&#8230; (plus personal sponsorship rights)&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say that makes Lewis as earning nearly twice what Jenson is getting&#8230; as a minimum&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeK</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paige,

Thanks for the insight re: Jeff and part ownership of his own car. I agree with your assessment of him as a class act.

Relative to reducing current F1 driver&#039;s salaries, it&#039;s up to the teams to figure that one out. Can&#039;t mandate that from on high, regardless of Spanky&#039;s new found power.

There will always be a disparity between the top and bottom teams, the haves and have nots. Ferrari can afford to pay Kimi $33 million a year and TR needs a driver who can bring sponsorship to get his seat for a year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paige,</p>
<p>Thanks for the insight re: Jeff and part ownership of his own car. I agree with your assessment of him as a class act.</p>
<p>Relative to reducing current F1 driver&#8217;s salaries, it&#8217;s up to the teams to figure that one out. Can&#8217;t mandate that from on high, regardless of Spanky&#8217;s new found power.</p>
<p>There will always be a disparity between the top and bottom teams, the haves and have nots. Ferrari can afford to pay Kimi $33 million a year and TR needs a driver who can bring sponsorship to get his seat for a year.</p>
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		<title>By: PJA</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A salary cap is unworkable in my opinion, like comment No.7 Tim said the sponsors could just pay the drivers directly.

This came up when Schumacher was still driving, I remember someones point was that Malboro could pay him however many millon for promotional work while Ferrari would pay him a realativly small amount to race cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A salary cap is unworkable in my opinion, like comment No.7 Tim said the sponsors could just pay the drivers directly.</p>
<p>This came up when Schumacher was still driving, I remember someones point was that Malboro could pay him however many millon for promotional work while Ferrari would pay him a realativly small amount to race cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Paige</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paige</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George, 

Let&#039;s not forget that Jeff Gordon is also the co-owner of his own car, the #24, although he does not receive points for it in the Owner Standings. 

Jeff Gordon is everything that is right about NASCAR, and motorsport in general. He&#039;s one of the greatest racers who has ever lived, and every bit of his immense talent is matched with immense class. It&#039;s a shame we never got to race in a Formula One car, as he would have been very good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that Jeff Gordon is also the co-owner of his own car, the #24, although he does not receive points for it in the Owner Standings. </p>
<p>Jeff Gordon is everything that is right about NASCAR, and motorsport in general. He&#8217;s one of the greatest racers who has ever lived, and every bit of his immense talent is matched with immense class. It&#8217;s a shame we never got to race in a Formula One car, as he would have been very good.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course they should take a pay cut BUT SO SHOULD BERNIE AND MOSELEY the sport would be better served without these two,.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course they should take a pay cut BUT SO SHOULD BERNIE AND MOSELEY the sport would be better served without these two,.</p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I can see a Mad Max-ism on this coming soon, forcing the drivers to have a maximum salary (as I am sure some must be earning as much as he is). Although I am sure the teams would top this up with free cars, shares and encouraging the drivers to find more personal sponsorship.
Don&#039;t the likes of Alonso and Old Schuey before him already have massive personal sponsorship? I would have expected that is the only way to go for the drivers anyway....after what Bourdais was saying about Sato.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I can see a Mad Max-ism on this coming soon, forcing the drivers to have a maximum salary (as I am sure some must be earning as much as he is). Although I am sure the teams would top this up with free cars, shares and encouraging the drivers to find more personal sponsorship.<br />
Don&#8217;t the likes of Alonso and Old Schuey before him already have massive personal sponsorship? I would have expected that is the only way to go for the drivers anyway&#8230;.after what Bourdais was saying about Sato.</p>
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		<title>By: Gman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic idea, but no way it happens in F1.....

I very much like the first comment that mentions many American sports have a salary cap that limits the total payroll of the teams in the sport. The NFL and NBA use this to great result- the big-market clubs naturally grab many of the top free agents after their first contracts are up, but good management and coaching ensures that small-market teams can compete. As an example, see the Pittsburg Steelers. While playing in one of the NFL&#039;s smallest markets, their passionate fans and brilliant ownership see that the team is always in the playoff mix. 

The problem with F1 is that, in this analogy, it is much like Major League Baseball, where the rich teams have been the most successful, and they have no desire to stop getting richer. McLaren and Ferrari are like the New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox of F1- for all intents and purposes, they can out-spend their way to championships. 

The Yankees are about to sign superstar free-agent pitcher C.C. Sabathia to a record seven-year, $161 million dollar deal- something his previous teams in Cleveland and Milwaukee could never dream of- much like Williams could never afford to sign Kimi or Lewis at their current value. Indeed, some of the smaller outfits could probably run their whole operations on the combined salaries of a few of the top drivers- nxt season the payments the Yankees make to Sabathia plus their other top two stars, Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez, wil be more than the entire payrolls of many teams in the sport. 

If there was going to be a salary cap,reat, but the teams would probably fight it to the very end. Just look at a guy like Alonso, along with his millions of fans and millions in sponsorship dollars. Dose anyone really think that the top teams would give the smaller teams a chance to afford a superstar like that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic idea, but no way it happens in F1&#8230;..</p>
<p>I very much like the first comment that mentions many American sports have a salary cap that limits the total payroll of the teams in the sport. The NFL and NBA use this to great result- the big-market clubs naturally grab many of the top free agents after their first contracts are up, but good management and coaching ensures that small-market teams can compete. As an example, see the Pittsburg Steelers. While playing in one of the NFL&#8217;s smallest markets, their passionate fans and brilliant ownership see that the team is always in the playoff mix. </p>
<p>The problem with F1 is that, in this analogy, it is much like Major League Baseball, where the rich teams have been the most successful, and they have no desire to stop getting richer. McLaren and Ferrari are like the New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox of F1- for all intents and purposes, they can out-spend their way to championships. </p>
<p>The Yankees are about to sign superstar free-agent pitcher C.C. Sabathia to a record seven-year, $161 million dollar deal- something his previous teams in Cleveland and Milwaukee could never dream of- much like Williams could never afford to sign Kimi or Lewis at their current value. Indeed, some of the smaller outfits could probably run their whole operations on the combined salaries of a few of the top drivers- nxt season the payments the Yankees make to Sabathia plus their other top two stars, Derek Jeter and Alex Rodriguez, wil be more than the entire payrolls of many teams in the sport. </p>
<p>If there was going to be a salary cap,reat, but the teams would probably fight it to the very end. Just look at a guy like Alonso, along with his millions of fans and millions in sponsorship dollars. Dose anyone really think that the top teams would give the smaller teams a chance to afford a superstar like that?</p>
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		<title>By: Filipe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filipe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 06:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guees it depends of the driver. Button salary for this year is probably safe, but he is certainly aware that he goona need to take a huge cut for 2010 whatever car he will be driving. Also there&#039;s drivers with reasons to be loyal to their teams that I imagine would do it if the teams really needs it (let&#039;s say Trulli at Toyota, or even Lewis and Massa) and off course many of the veterans or younger drivers who aren&#039;t very hot names right now would probably accept whatever deal they got (for example, Rosberg or Vettel have no reason to accept a pay cut, but Glock or Sutil do).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guees it depends of the driver. Button salary for this year is probably safe, but he is certainly aware that he goona need to take a huge cut for 2010 whatever car he will be driving. Also there&#8217;s drivers with reasons to be loyal to their teams that I imagine would do it if the teams really needs it (let&#8217;s say Trulli at Toyota, or even Lewis and Massa) and off course many of the veterans or younger drivers who aren&#8217;t very hot names right now would probably accept whatever deal they got (for example, Rosberg or Vettel have no reason to accept a pay cut, but Glock or Sutil do).</p>
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		<title>By: cyanide</title>
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		<dc:creator>cyanide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 04:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not just give the teams a fixed budget and allow them to &#039;buy&#039; two drivers with that money. That would make sure that you&#039;d never have 2 top drivers in one team, but would spread the good drivers a lot better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not just give the teams a fixed budget and allow them to &#8216;buy&#8217; two drivers with that money. That would make sure that you&#8217;d never have 2 top drivers in one team, but would spread the good drivers a lot better.</p>
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