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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steven, My apologies, but I don&#039;t think I made myself clear. It appears from recent changes that have been made that the FIA are listening to the fans, major changes in a multi billion industry take time to get all parties to buy off on changes and to implement them. 

I have been following F1 since 1978 and I&#039;m well aware of Bernie and Max&#039;s history and at no time can I remember them reacting so quickly to appease the fans (apart from all the ridiculous changes implemented to slow Schuey down). Maybe I&#039;m wrong but I genuinely believe that they are changing things for the better and  tbh I don&#039;t care if they&#039;re doing it for selfish reasons or not it doesn&#039;t change the outcome. 

As for Jackie, he was a great World Champ, the original safety campaigner (his reason for retiring) and an ex-team owner so he could easily have a massive influence on the sport through either CVC or the FIA, instead he chooses to sit on the pitwall and whinge instead of actually taking action and by that I mean either running for the FIA Presidency or approaching CVC as a possible replacement for Bernie. 

In my mind it&#039;s time for Jackie to put up or shut up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steven, My apologies, but I don&#8217;t think I made myself clear. It appears from recent changes that have been made that the FIA are listening to the fans, major changes in a multi billion industry take time to get all parties to buy off on changes and to implement them. </p>
<p>I have been following F1 since 1978 and I&#8217;m well aware of Bernie and Max&#8217;s history and at no time can I remember them reacting so quickly to appease the fans (apart from all the ridiculous changes implemented to slow Schuey down). Maybe I&#8217;m wrong but I genuinely believe that they are changing things for the better and  tbh I don&#8217;t care if they&#8217;re doing it for selfish reasons or not it doesn&#8217;t change the outcome. </p>
<p>As for Jackie, he was a great World Champ, the original safety campaigner (his reason for retiring) and an ex-team owner so he could easily have a massive influence on the sport through either CVC or the FIA, instead he chooses to sit on the pitwall and whinge instead of actually taking action and by that I mean either running for the FIA Presidency or approaching CVC as a possible replacement for Bernie. </p>
<p>In my mind it&#8217;s time for Jackie to put up or shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: Juan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 00:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He speaks sense. But because what he says is sane, reasonable and insightful, it&#039;ll never happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He speaks sense. But because what he says is sane, reasonable and insightful, it&#8217;ll never happen.</p>
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		<title>By: rdw</title>
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		<dc:creator>rdw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear, hear. Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear. Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 12:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George,

Who gave us grooved tyres in the first place when no-one wanted them?  Max

Who let aero get out of control?  Max

All he is doing for next season is undoing some of the damage he has done.

As things stand we have 18 cars going to the first race of the season unless Honda is bought.  There used to be a time when there were over 30 cars turning up at each race.  Max and Bernie aggressively recruited car manufacturers who then priced all the racing people out of business. Now the manufacturers are leaving as they always do.  This is the third time Honda has quit F1.  Renault has already quit twice.  You cannot build a series on manufacturers because when the market dictates they will quit on you.

What can Jackie Stewart do apart from talk?  Bernie is untouchable because CVC own the rights and can do what they like.  Max is untouchable because of the voting structure of the FIA and because of the procedures he put in place to prevent someone else building a challenge using the route he did.  Apart from giving the fans a voice there is nothing else Jackie Stewart can do.

If you think Bernie and Max are listening to the fans you have been asleep for the last 20 years.  Neither is remotely interested in the views of the fans or we would not be losing traditional tracks to have races in front of no-one in the desert.

Remember the last FIA AMD survey?  Like many others I wasted 15 minutes of my ife filling it in.  Remember what happened within days of it closing before the results had been processes?  Max announced his vision for the future of F1.

As far as Bernie and Max are concerned fans are a source of money and nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George,</p>
<p>Who gave us grooved tyres in the first place when no-one wanted them?  Max</p>
<p>Who let aero get out of control?  Max</p>
<p>All he is doing for next season is undoing some of the damage he has done.</p>
<p>As things stand we have 18 cars going to the first race of the season unless Honda is bought.  There used to be a time when there were over 30 cars turning up at each race.  Max and Bernie aggressively recruited car manufacturers who then priced all the racing people out of business. Now the manufacturers are leaving as they always do.  This is the third time Honda has quit F1.  Renault has already quit twice.  You cannot build a series on manufacturers because when the market dictates they will quit on you.</p>
<p>What can Jackie Stewart do apart from talk?  Bernie is untouchable because CVC own the rights and can do what they like.  Max is untouchable because of the voting structure of the FIA and because of the procedures he put in place to prevent someone else building a challenge using the route he did.  Apart from giving the fans a voice there is nothing else Jackie Stewart can do.</p>
<p>If you think Bernie and Max are listening to the fans you have been asleep for the last 20 years.  Neither is remotely interested in the views of the fans or we would not be losing traditional tracks to have races in front of no-one in the desert.</p>
<p>Remember the last FIA AMD survey?  Like many others I wasted 15 minutes of my ife filling it in.  Remember what happened within days of it closing before the results had been processes?  Max announced his vision for the future of F1.</p>
<p>As far as Bernie and Max are concerned fans are a source of money and nothing else.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 10:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While Jackie speaks sense at times, I always feel that is all he does, talk. 

Say what you like about Bernie and Max at least there doing something other than constantly whinging. They have tried to listen to what the fans want from the sport and are implementing some of those very changes for the coming season. It&#039;s a simple fact of life that you can&#039;t please all the people all the time. 

Keeping the fans happy is an truly impossible task for them, this coming season Slicks are Back, Refueling is gone, Aero changes have been made to hopefully improve the action, These are all things that I have read people pleading for in the last few years and they&#039;re happening now. 

And Yet Jackie and many fans are still calling for there heads, makes no sense at all if you ask me. I guess the proof of the puddin&#039; is in the eatin&#039; so why don&#039;t we all stop calling for an end to them until we see what effect these changes have?

Oh yeah, we&#039;re fans so we obviously know better than the guys who made the sport what it is. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Jackie speaks sense at times, I always feel that is all he does, talk. </p>
<p>Say what you like about Bernie and Max at least there doing something other than constantly whinging. They have tried to listen to what the fans want from the sport and are implementing some of those very changes for the coming season. It&#8217;s a simple fact of life that you can&#8217;t please all the people all the time. </p>
<p>Keeping the fans happy is an truly impossible task for them, this coming season Slicks are Back, Refueling is gone, Aero changes have been made to hopefully improve the action, These are all things that I have read people pleading for in the last few years and they&#8217;re happening now. </p>
<p>And Yet Jackie and many fans are still calling for there heads, makes no sense at all if you ask me. I guess the proof of the puddin&#8217; is in the eatin&#8217; so why don&#8217;t we all stop calling for an end to them until we see what effect these changes have?</p>
<p>Oh yeah, we&#8217;re fans so we obviously know better than the guys who made the sport what it is. <img src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: DG</title>
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		<dc:creator>DG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do know that Jackie was one of the first to push for safer cars and circuits after a very nasty year of fatalaties, and I am sure he can be very persuasive if he wants to be.
But I am agreeing with others that he may not be the man to head the FIA, and may not in fact want to. He is correct to say that the FIA needs a businessman at the head, one who can do the deals with the motorsport associations and the series organisers, without losing the point that the FIA is there to regulate, not manipulate.
Also, it would be interesting to know if he has contacts with CVC at any level, and if they would have him as a figurehead instead of Bernie, as that is a role that would suit him quite well, although given his previous contacts with Ford and his current connection with Williams, he could never be seen as unbiased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do know that Jackie was one of the first to push for safer cars and circuits after a very nasty year of fatalaties, and I am sure he can be very persuasive if he wants to be.<br />
But I am agreeing with others that he may not be the man to head the FIA, and may not in fact want to. He is correct to say that the FIA needs a businessman at the head, one who can do the deals with the motorsport associations and the series organisers, without losing the point that the FIA is there to regulate, not manipulate.<br />
Also, it would be interesting to know if he has contacts with CVC at any level, and if they would have him as a figurehead instead of Bernie, as that is a role that would suit him quite well, although given his previous contacts with Ford and his current connection with Williams, he could never be seen as unbiased.</p>
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		<title>By: wasiF1</title>
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		<dc:creator>wasiF1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too do agree,because he talk good and his talking makes sense.So I believe he should get involve in F1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too do agree,because he talk good and his talking makes sense.So I believe he should get involve in F1</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackie Stewart as usual is talking perfect sense and he is not saying anything that he hasn&#039;t said before.  I have found a few people on different sites saying that normally he talks rubbish.  I would like to see a few examples of that because I have read everything I can about him or by him for the past few decades and don&#039;t remember much that was wrong.  Maybe that means I am not as intelligent or as critical as the people who have a go at him.

The problem F1 has is that although Bernie is still doing the deals Max sold him the commercial rights for a fraction of their worth and Bernie sold them on for significantly more.  So now CVC can do pretty much want they want when Bernie retires or dies and there is nothing anyone can do about it.  

Hopefully when Max is finally replaced by someone competent the orignal deal will become the subject of a court case and F1 will gain form it.  Personally I think the best thing that could happen is for the teams and circuits to set up their own championship when the current contracts end.  It is absolutely senseless that the people who invest the most in the sport get the least return and Bernie who has had none of his own money invested since he sold Brabham takes out more than anyone else with the exception of CVC&#039;s creditors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie Stewart as usual is talking perfect sense and he is not saying anything that he hasn&#8217;t said before.  I have found a few people on different sites saying that normally he talks rubbish.  I would like to see a few examples of that because I have read everything I can about him or by him for the past few decades and don&#8217;t remember much that was wrong.  Maybe that means I am not as intelligent or as critical as the people who have a go at him.</p>
<p>The problem F1 has is that although Bernie is still doing the deals Max sold him the commercial rights for a fraction of their worth and Bernie sold them on for significantly more.  So now CVC can do pretty much want they want when Bernie retires or dies and there is nothing anyone can do about it.  </p>
<p>Hopefully when Max is finally replaced by someone competent the orignal deal will become the subject of a court case and F1 will gain form it.  Personally I think the best thing that could happen is for the teams and circuits to set up their own championship when the current contracts end.  It is absolutely senseless that the people who invest the most in the sport get the least return and Bernie who has had none of his own money invested since he sold Brabham takes out more than anyone else with the exception of CVC&#8217;s creditors.</p>
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		<title>By: Dane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why replace some old men, with other old men?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why replace some old men, with other old men?</p>
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		<title>By: beneboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>beneboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Bernie convinced the teams to give him control of the commercial rights he promised to double their money as long as they didn&#039;t ask any questions or interfere.

At the time it looked like a great deal for the teams so they all went for it, in reality he was doing them over from the start. He got them more money but was keeping most of it for himself.

If the teams wanted to do something about it they should have done it when he sold out to CVC and they have no-one but themselves to blame for not doing so.

Bernie is great at making TV deals and taking money from governments but he&#039;s lost in the on-line world and by failing to keep up with the technology he&#039;s now failing to maximise the marketing potential of the sport.

Add in the ridiculous situation with the races at the moment and you really have to question how he&#039;s still got so much power and why the teams continue to allow him to have it.
All it would take was a letter from the teams stating that they won&#039;t race in 2010 without US &amp; Canadian GP&#039;s on the calender and he&#039;d have no choice but to get them sorted.

&lt;blockquote&gt;What’s so striking about Sir Jackie’s interview is not what he’s saying - in many ways he’s stating the bleeding obvious. It’s the fact that someone stating the bleeding obvious is regarded as such a valuable and timely contribution to the sport.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Couldn&#039;t agree more, almost every F1 fan in the world has been saying the same things for years so why has it taken them so long to work it out ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Bernie convinced the teams to give him control of the commercial rights he promised to double their money as long as they didn&#8217;t ask any questions or interfere.</p>
<p>At the time it looked like a great deal for the teams so they all went for it, in reality he was doing them over from the start. He got them more money but was keeping most of it for himself.</p>
<p>If the teams wanted to do something about it they should have done it when he sold out to CVC and they have no-one but themselves to blame for not doing so.</p>
<p>Bernie is great at making TV deals and taking money from governments but he&#8217;s lost in the on-line world and by failing to keep up with the technology he&#8217;s now failing to maximise the marketing potential of the sport.</p>
<p>Add in the ridiculous situation with the races at the moment and you really have to question how he&#8217;s still got so much power and why the teams continue to allow him to have it.<br />
All it would take was a letter from the teams stating that they won&#8217;t race in 2010 without US &amp; Canadian GP&#8217;s on the calender and he&#8217;d have no choice but to get them sorted.</p>
<blockquote><p>What’s so striking about Sir Jackie’s interview is not what he’s saying &#8211; in many ways he’s stating the bleeding obvious. It’s the fact that someone stating the bleeding obvious is regarded as such a valuable and timely contribution to the sport.</p></blockquote>
<p>Couldn&#8217;t agree more, almost every F1 fan in the world has been saying the same things for years so why has it taken them so long to work it out ?</p>
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