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	<title>Comments on: Are pre-season F1 testing times any use in predicting form for 2009?</title>
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		<title>By: PaulD</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you look at trends across multiple tests you can actually learn a lot.  A single test means very little though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you look at trends across multiple tests you can actually learn a lot.  A single test means very little though.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur 954</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur 954</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 02:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im sure the simulator makes a HUGE difference - it is what I most often think about if I where the team owner and was looking for ways to invest in something really productive. It also must keep the drivers SHARP during the winter months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im sure the simulator makes a HUGE difference &#8211; it is what I most often think about if I where the team owner and was looking for ways to invest in something really productive. It also must keep the drivers SHARP during the winter months.</p>
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		<title>By: Juhhi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juhhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally follow testing as much as it´s possible. I don´t watch times because I think those tell you nothing. Best is, as someone said, is bodylanguage of drivers and how they, and other on the team responds questions like: how was the car?...is it fast?...was there problems? Does it fit you?..and so on...

I was wondering do drivers drive fast as they can every time they go on track when testing. Or like tire testing, could it be drived half throttle....?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally follow testing as much as it´s possible. I don´t watch times because I think those tell you nothing. Best is, as someone said, is bodylanguage of drivers and how they, and other on the team responds questions like: how was the car?&#8230;is it fast?&#8230;was there problems? Does it fit you?..and so on&#8230;</p>
<p>I was wondering do drivers drive fast as they can every time they go on track when testing. Or like tire testing, could it be drived half throttle&#8230;.?</p>
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		<title>By: theRoswellite</title>
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		<dc:creator>theRoswellite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...boy, flies on crap...I&#039;ve never been so succinctly described.

Certainly, if one watches testing over two months, and listens to driver/media comments, it is possible to discern some relative relationships between the cars, or between drivers in the same team; but, to be in agreement with everyone else,....only relative.

Becken&#039;s post reminds me, in the words of the old economic adage, The First Rule &amp; the Last Rule is:  The Rich will get richer, and the Poor will get poorer.
Will someone please tell Toro Rosso that now they need to build an F1 simulator...that isn&#039;t a toy and translates to improved track performance.

And, if McLaren is dominant this year, I&#039;m sure we will hear about a &quot;simulator-gap&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;boy, flies on crap&#8230;I&#8217;ve never been so succinctly described.</p>
<p>Certainly, if one watches testing over two months, and listens to driver/media comments, it is possible to discern some relative relationships between the cars, or between drivers in the same team; but, to be in agreement with everyone else,&#8230;.only relative.</p>
<p>Becken&#8217;s post reminds me, in the words of the old economic adage, The First Rule &amp; the Last Rule is:  The Rich will get richer, and the Poor will get poorer.<br />
Will someone please tell Toro Rosso that now they need to build an F1 simulator&#8230;that isn&#8217;t a toy and translates to improved track performance.</p>
<p>And, if McLaren is dominant this year, I&#8217;m sure we will hear about a &#8220;simulator-gap&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generally, if a team or driver feels good about a new car, that will emerge in the adjectives. If they do not, they tend to avoid saying anything at all. I remember Williams in 1994, when the response to the FW16(a) was rather low-key, and Benetton were notably upbeat about the 194. And so it came to be, that the Williams was fast, but not particularly easy to drive.

Ferrari in &#039;97 were similar. They didn&#039;t say much, because the car - again - wasn&#039;t quite there. Of course, they had a driver and Technical Director who knew how to work the tenths to make it competitive. 

Last year, I really thought the BMW&#039;s were going to be off the pace, substantially, because there were actually negative noises coming from testing - it looks like they found the performance and - on balance - did well. 

Jackie Stewart mentions in his book that, generally speaking, if a new car isn&#039;t fast right away, chances are it never will be, such is the pace of relative development in F1. And so it will be in testing this month - the driver&#039;s body language will tell all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally, if a team or driver feels good about a new car, that will emerge in the adjectives. If they do not, they tend to avoid saying anything at all. I remember Williams in 1994, when the response to the FW16(a) was rather low-key, and Benetton were notably upbeat about the 194. And so it came to be, that the Williams was fast, but not particularly easy to drive.</p>
<p>Ferrari in &#8217;97 were similar. They didn&#8217;t say much, because the car &#8211; again &#8211; wasn&#8217;t quite there. Of course, they had a driver and Technical Director who knew how to work the tenths to make it competitive. </p>
<p>Last year, I really thought the BMW&#8217;s were going to be off the pace, substantially, because there were actually negative noises coming from testing &#8211; it looks like they found the performance and &#8211; on balance &#8211; did well. </p>
<p>Jackie Stewart mentions in his book that, generally speaking, if a new car isn&#8217;t fast right away, chances are it never will be, such is the pace of relative development in F1. And so it will be in testing this month &#8211; the driver&#8217;s body language will tell all.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just looking at that picture of the F60...I&#039;m already getting used to it..!!

Roll on tomorrow for the Toyota launch and more importantly Friday for the McLaren launch....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just looking at that picture of the F60&#8230;I&#8217;m already getting used to it..!!</p>
<p>Roll on tomorrow for the Toyota launch and more importantly Friday for the McLaren launch&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Caveman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Caveman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the end of the day we are all addicted to it..

What I tend to follow is obviously developments of the car which gives me something to talk about etc, but I find that even though the testing is limited in comparison to other cars and teams, I have felt that the testing seems to be more accurate and relevant in comparing drivers from the same team. Weber versus Buemi, etc

This I find intriguing, plus the amount of time each driver has in the seat during the next few months, very much highlights to me a number of issues (or at least potentially) who does the team trust most for feedback, who is the car really being designed for, who is the better engineer/driver and not just driver in each team etc

Come on …. just another 71 days to go</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of the day we are all addicted to it..</p>
<p>What I tend to follow is obviously developments of the car which gives me something to talk about etc, but I find that even though the testing is limited in comparison to other cars and teams, I have felt that the testing seems to be more accurate and relevant in comparing drivers from the same team. Weber versus Buemi, etc</p>
<p>This I find intriguing, plus the amount of time each driver has in the seat during the next few months, very much highlights to me a number of issues (or at least potentially) who does the team trust most for feedback, who is the car really being designed for, who is the better engineer/driver and not just driver in each team etc</p>
<p>Come on …. just another 71 days to go</p>
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		<title>By: Boyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Usually pre-season times don&#039;t give you a very accurate picture, but I remember everyone knew the McLaren was brutally fast before Australia 1998.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Usually pre-season times don&#8217;t give you a very accurate picture, but I remember everyone knew the McLaren was brutally fast before Australia 1998.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to this site, I like to listen to what the commentators like Brundle have to say, because one feels he has been privy to perhaps a little more inside information and he knows how to sift through all these variable and data...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to this site, I like to listen to what the commentators like Brundle have to say, because one feels he has been privy to perhaps a little more inside information and he knows how to sift through all these variable and data&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: NDINYO</title>
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		<dc:creator>NDINYO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what choice do i have? we are like flies on crap ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what choice do i have? we are like flies on crap &#8230;</p>
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