What was the best underdog race win?

Does Sebastian Vettel's Monza win rank among the top underdog triumphs?

Does Sebastian Vettel's Monza win rank among the top underdog triumphs?

Carlos di Bello sent in this question via Skribit:

What are the top ten races where superior driving overcame inferior mechanical means?

I thought that was a good question to put to the collective wisdom of F1 Fanatic readers. What do you think was the best victory for a driver in a sub-par car? Here?s my suggestion:

Gilles Villeneuve, 1981 Spanish Grand Prix, Ferrari

Gilles Villeneuve’s Ferrari 126CK was a dog of a car – to put it bluntly. Yes, it was an improvement over the team’s disastrous 1980 effort, but it lacked the ground effect capabilities of its rivals and floundered in corners. If any circuit was going to demonstrate the handling shortcomings of the car it would be the twisty Jarama track, host of that year’s Spanish Grand Prix:

Instead what unfolded was a showcase of Villeneuve?s staggering talent. A lightning start left him running second, and perfectly poised to inherit the lead when Alan Jones crashed. That was on lap 14. When the chequered flag came out 66 laps later Villeneuve was, incredibly, still in the lead, with Jacques Laffite, John Watson, Carlos Reutemann and Elio de Angelis queued up behind him, covered by less than 1.24s.

What’s more, Villeneuve accomplished this without the kind of chopping and barging we’re used to seeing today. As ever his track manners were scrupulously fair. As Steven Roy wrote recently:

He didn?t do it by blocking or making ??one move?. He drove a perfect, clean line lap after lap after lap and won the race despite having four faster cars on his tail for the whole race. He knew that if he made one small mistake he could drop four positions.

No way should his Ferrari have even been in the points that day. Sad to think in this era of compulsory pit stops this extraordinary feat cannot be reproduced.

Who better to give the ultimate homage to a man who had shrugged off the deficiencies of his machinery to claim an improbable win than ace designer Gordon Murray?:

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a driver put in a performance like that. Not one wheel out of place all afternoon.

Watch the video and judge for yourself:

That?s my choice for the greatest win by a driver in a car that wasn?t up to the task. What do you think was the best underdog triumph? Name your nominees in the comments, post quotes and video links, and we’ll vote on the top ten on Sunday.

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63 comments on What was the best underdog race win?

  1. Andrew said on 26th February 2009, 22:43

    One from the history books, Moss in 1958 Argentine GP.

    To quote Robert Edwards’ biography, “Effectively one eyed, with a broken clutch, a ‘crash’ gearbox and tyres worn down to the canvas, he had taken on the entire Ferrari works effort and left it floundering.” Moss was driving an out-of-date F2 car with a 1.96 litre engine against 2.4 litre F1 cars. It would have taken so long to change the tyres on his car he’d have lost a lap and a half so had to run the 80 lap race on tyres reckoned to have about 40 laps of life in them. As if all that wasn’t enough his wife had accidentally scratched his cornea a few days before the race.

  2. I am glad that Tom has mentioned Keke at last. The crazy Finn was an underdog in almost every GP he raced and never failed to drive as though he expected to win, regardless of the machinery he was given. The race Tom refers to was actually the Dallas GP in 1984 but any of the races in 1982 would do as well, ignoring the fact that he won only one of them (the “Swiss” GP at Dijon). If we were to have a “Greatest Underdog Championship Win” contest, Keke Rosberg would be the winner hands down.

  3. Leslie said on 26th February 2009, 22:57

    Hello Clive

    I’ve got to go with Moss ’58. That started the rear wheel revolution in F1. Even Lotus still had FWD.

  4. Leslie said on 26th February 2009, 23:13

    Sorry Keith, been reading F1 Insight!

  5. theRoswellite said on 27th February 2009, 0:24

    Leslie….????…..are you speaking of the Rear Engine revolution? The front engined and rear engined cars all had rear wheel drive, not front wheel drive, or four wheel drive. Please correct me if this is wrong, or not what you were speaking of.

  6. Jay Menon said on 27th February 2009, 1:35

    I’m going for a tie between Alonso and the Hungaroaring in 03 and Alesi’s win at Montreal in 95. Both can be considered very special wins.

    I’m pretty sure there have been many better wins in earlier years..unfortunately, memories to go back that far for me.

  7. theRoswellite said on 27th February 2009, 6:05

    As no one is probably reading this thread anymore, I’ll sneak in a bit of a minority report……

    How about a Grand Prix where…..

    1. Driver is a full time……dental student.
    2. Team shows up to the race 2 days late.
    3. The race is this drivers first GP.
    4. He sits in his car for the first time on Saturday morning.
    5. Drivers first time on this course, a street course.
    6. Walls, ditches, trees and telegraph poles await any errors.
    7. In Italy, driver beats entire Maserati team.
    8. Drivers car is basically…uncompetitive, and unreliable.
    9. Some of the defeated: Musso, Salvadori, Villoresi, Schell.
    10. In disbelief, organizers check engine after the race.

    Enough of an underdog scenario?

    Race: Grand Prix of Syracuse, 1955.
    Car: Connaught
    Driver: Tony Brooks

    (If you don’t think non-championship races should count, then I’ll take Moss at Monaco in 1961)

    • Leslie said on 27th February 2009, 6:34

      I like that one and Moss/Monaco was my second choice. Thanks for the creative post….just to prove someone is watching.

    • Leslie said on 27th February 2009, 6:40

      Oh, and if we can talk non-championship races, how about Moss at Oulton/Aintree? in the wet in the Ferguson 4WD. I was there but can’t remember which circuit, can’t remember much come to think about it.

      My wife is hoping I’ll forget to race at Philip Island in March!

    • Paul Sainsbury said on 27th February 2009, 10:34

      Of course, Moss at Monaco in ’61! Now that really is a candidate for best underdog win of all time. 9 years before I was born, would love to have been around for that one.

  8. Daniel said on 27th February 2009, 11:17

    As someone pointed out, Vettel’s win in Italy 2008 was impressive because he started from pole on his merit alongside a McLaren that couldn’t pass him for the whole race… in fact, who didn’t even threatened him!

    Like I said before, that win finally convinced me that Vettel’s is much more than a hyped driver, but a great talent…

    Before him, I’ll vote on Frentzen’s wins with Jordan in 1999… he wasn’t really an underdog like Vettel with his Toro Rosso, but was always with inferior machinery and fought not only for race wins but, briefly, for the title…

  9. Daniel said on 27th February 2009, 11:18

    and that was with a 10-6-4-3-2-1 pointscoring system…

  10. My Votes
    Best 1st win by underdog: Panis Monaco 96. That was a soaking wet race, several drivers crashed out in front (including Schumi)and Panis was the fastest car on track for part of the race.
    Almost win: Hill, Hungary 97
    The master in a slow car: Senna, Donnington 93
    The new guy: Alonso Imola 05 He drove perfectly for those final 12 laps with Schumacher on his gearbox. Schmi caught Alonso at nearly 2 sec per lap and couldn’t get past. That’s when I realized how good Alonso is! (was the underdog, after that race, he certainly was not)

  11. qazuhb said on 27th February 2009, 14:39

    I suggested the question and now I’m amazed at the sheer quantity of stuff you guys have mentioned, I think I’ll have a really great time researching all those races! I don’t have an answer myself, so many GPs seen from 35 years ago but… my Alzheimer is worsening, I can only recall a superb race from Gilles blocking everyone else, must have been that ’81 Jarama GP Keith voted for. Also those early Ayrton rain masterpieces, Monaco ’84 (with a…Toleman! and if ever was a moral winner it was then…) and Estoril ’85 when he took a whole lap from the third and more than a minute from the runner-up. More recent memories are Donington ’93, (Senna’s car was “sub-par” at least with respect to the Williams) and of course, last year Vettel’s masterpiece.

  12. evilzeus said on 28th February 2009, 3:45

    Not a win, but Schumi finishing second despite only having fifth gear for half of the race is quite amazing.

  13. So desu said on 28th February 2009, 15:46

    I think Fisi in Brazil ’03 was pretty spectacular. Ok, so the race was stopped and he hadn’t pitted yet, but he was the fastest driver on track for the last part of the race, and by a good margin too if I remember it correctly. Vettel was pretty amazing – because it wasn’t down to luck – but the Ferrari power and Red Bull chassis takes a little bit away from it. They’re pretty far from Minardi these days, really. Love the story about Tony Brooks though, have to check up on that one!

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