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> <channel><title>Comments on: F1’s greatest winners (F1 in numbers)</title> <atom:link href="http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/</link> <description>F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog with F1 news, pictures, video, comment and analysis</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:46:22 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: Zop Leguest</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-347419</link> <dc:creator>Zop Leguest</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:30:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-347419</guid> <description>Italian Maria Teresa De Filippis entered 3 races in 1958 with Scuderia Centro Sud&#039;s Maserati and DNQ in another one.  Also failed qualification in Monaco 1959 driving a Porsche.Italian Lella Lombardi was the only woman scoring world championship points, at the 1975 Spanish Grand Prix in her March.  She entered 12 Grand Prix in her career and failed to qualify in another four.Also in the seventies British Divina Galica failed qualifications in her only three attempts.Same for Italian Giovanna Amati in 1992: 3 attempts and 3 DNQI can&#039;t remember of other F1 female drivers.  Waiting for Danica :-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Italian Maria Teresa De Filippis entered 3 races in 1958 with Scuderia Centro Sud&#8217;s Maserati and DNQ in another one.  Also failed qualification in Monaco 1959 driving a Porsche.</p><p>Italian Lella Lombardi was the only woman scoring world championship points, at the 1975 Spanish Grand Prix in her March.  She entered 12 Grand Prix in her career and failed to qualify in another four.</p><p>Also in the seventies British Divina Galica failed qualifications in her only three attempts.</p><p>Same for Italian Giovanna Amati in 1992: 3 attempts and 3 DNQ</p><p>I can&#8217;t remember of other F1 female drivers.  Waiting for Danica <img
src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith Collantine</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-254301</link> <dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 22:53:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-254301</guid> <description>Yes, more than one, and no.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, more than one, and no.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chris Miller</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-253881</link> <dc:creator>Chris Miller</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 11:06:02 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-253881</guid> <description>Has there been any female Grand Prix drivers?  If, what was here name and did she win any races?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has there been any female Grand Prix drivers?  If, what was here name and did she win any races?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sasquatsch</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238459</link> <dc:creator>Sasquatsch</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 08:15:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238459</guid> <description>Since none of the regular F1 drivers (except for Ascari, once in 1952) participated in de Indianapolis 500 and none of the regular Indy 500 drivers competed in de regular F1 events during the years that the race counted for the F1 championship in my opinion they don&#039;t count as F1 races.The Indy 500 was only on the F1 calendar to give the term World Championship more meaning because of a race outside Europe.But I agree that it is an interesting statistic.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since none of the regular F1 drivers (except for Ascari, once in 1952) participated in de Indianapolis 500 and none of the regular Indy 500 drivers competed in de regular F1 events during the years that the race counted for the F1 championship in my opinion they don&#8217;t count as F1 races.</p><p>The Indy 500 was only on the F1 calendar to give the term World Championship more meaning because of a race outside Europe.</p><p>But I agree that it is an interesting statistic.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dmw</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238403</link> <dc:creator>dmw</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:53:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238403</guid> <description>The fact that Prost, Senna, and Mansell evacuated about the time of Schumacher&#039;s entry is an interesting insight. Senna dueled Prost dueled Mansell duled Piquet.  Stewart also suffered some good competition.  And they all dueled unreliability.  Schumacher dueled a parade of great but never truly historic drivers: Villeneuve, Hakkinen, Coulthard, D. Hill.  It was not until Alonso got a good car (and whenever Raikkonen had a reliable one) that we saw again a true phenomenon challenge Schumacher. And it was only Alsonso who proved to have the talent and cool to put it to him under any condition.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that Prost, Senna, and Mansell evacuated about the time of Schumacher&#8217;s entry is an interesting insight. Senna dueled Prost dueled Mansell duled Piquet.  Stewart also suffered some good competition.  And they all dueled unreliability.  Schumacher dueled a parade of great but never truly historic drivers: Villeneuve, Hakkinen, Coulthard, D. Hill.  It was not until Alonso got a good car (and whenever Raikkonen had a reliable one) that we saw again a true phenomenon challenge Schumacher. And it was only Alsonso who proved to have the talent and cool to put it to him under any condition.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DASMAN</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238377</link> <dc:creator>DASMAN</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 13:16:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238377</guid> <description>@WhewbaccaRemember it took Schumi Nearly 5 years before he won a championship with Ferrari. He most certainly did not have the best machinery from &#039;96 - 2000.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Whewbacca</p><p>Remember it took Schumi Nearly 5 years before he won a championship with Ferrari. He most certainly did not have the best machinery from &#8216;96 &#8211; 2000.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith Collantine</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238353</link> <dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:58:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238353</guid> <description>Ignoring &lt;a href=&quot;/2008/08/05/100-f1-race-winners-part-1-1950-1953/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Lee Wallard&lt;/a&gt;, of course - one of my favourite F1 stats 8-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignoring <a
href="/2008/08/05/100-f1-race-winners-part-1-1950-1953/" rel="nofollow">Lee Wallard</a>, of course &#8211; one of my favourite F1 stats <img
src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sasquatsch</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238347</link> <dc:creator>Sasquatsch</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:25:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238347</guid> <description>In my opinion not the absolute number of wins count, but the number of wins relative to the number of events a driver competed in counts.An absolute comparison is not fair to those who competed in less events because there were not so many Grand Prix in a year as there are now.That gives us a whole new list:1. Fangio 47.0% (24 victories in 51 races)
2. Ascari 38.2 (13 - 34)
3. Schumacher 36.4% (91 - 250)
4. Clark 34.2% (25 - 73)
5. Stewart 27.0% (29 - 100)
6. Prost 25.4% (51 - 201)
7. Senna 25.3% (41 - 162)Alonso scores only 17% (21 - 123)This list tells us that Fangio was the most dominant driver of all time, followed by Ascari (in the same era !!), Schumacher and Jim Clark.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion not the absolute number of wins count, but the number of wins relative to the number of events a driver competed in counts.</p><p>An absolute comparison is not fair to those who competed in less events because there were not so many Grand Prix in a year as there are now.</p><p>That gives us a whole new list:</p><p>1. Fangio 47.0% (24 victories in 51 races)<br
/> 2. Ascari 38.2 (13 &#8211; 34)<br
/> 3. Schumacher 36.4% (91 &#8211; 250)<br
/> 4. Clark 34.2% (25 &#8211; 73)<br
/> 5. Stewart 27.0% (29 &#8211; 100)<br
/> 6. Prost 25.4% (51 &#8211; 201)<br
/> 7. Senna 25.3% (41 &#8211; 162)</p><p>Alonso scores only 17% (21 &#8211; 123)</p><p>This list tells us that Fangio was the most dominant driver of all time, followed by Ascari (in the same era !!), Schumacher and Jim Clark.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: theRoswellite</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238259</link> <dc:creator>theRoswellite</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:34:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238259</guid> <description>........sorry my cat walked on the computer......Oh, and for me Mr. Schumacher spoiled his chances to be mentioned in this company by lacking a certain moral rectitude.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;..sorry my cat walked on the computer&#8230;&#8230;</p><p>Oh, and for me Mr. Schumacher spoiled his chances to be mentioned in this company by lacking a certain moral rectitude.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: theRoswellite</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238258</link> <dc:creator>theRoswellite</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:28:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238258</guid> <description>Thanks Keith, nice article, especially in this last month before we get into the season.Since I&#039;ve been paying attention to F1, 1959..., no period was so &quot;dominated&quot; by one driver as was Clark&#039;s years (&#039;62-&#039;68). I don&#039;t think any other driver even felt they could match his talent during that time.  He was beaten in races and championships, but no one was confused about who the best driver was, and in a way I&#039;ve not experienced except during Senna&#039;s most dominant period.Certainly Prost possessed a kind of dialectic precision which could seem a bit unearthly,</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Keith, nice article, especially in this last month before we get into the season.</p><p>Since I&#8217;ve been paying attention to F1, 1959&#8230;, no period was so &#8220;dominated&#8221; by one driver as was Clark&#8217;s years (&#8217;62-&#8217;68). I don&#8217;t think any other driver even felt they could match his talent during that time.  He was beaten in races and championships, but no one was confused about who the best driver was, and in a way I&#8217;ve not experienced except during Senna&#8217;s most dominant period.</p><p>Certainly Prost possessed a kind of dialectic precision which could seem a bit unearthly,</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Daniel</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238175</link> <dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:44:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238175</guid> <description>Hamilton is the one with the best chances, since he hadn&#039;t &quot;waste&quot; a season in a bad car yet, and won&#039;t, unless McLaren falls off pace. On the other hand, Hamilton has had stiff opposition (Alonso, Massa, Raikkonen) until now, and the same scenario is set for the next few years. From 2008 on, he was lucky to have an underperforming team-mate...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hamilton is the one with the best chances, since he hadn&#8217;t &#8220;waste&#8221; a season in a bad car yet, and won&#8217;t, unless McLaren falls off pace. On the other hand, Hamilton has had stiff opposition (Alonso, Massa, Raikkonen) until now, and the same scenario is set for the next few years. From 2008 on, he was lucky to have an underperforming team-mate&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Whewbacca the Cookie</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238170</link> <dc:creator>Whewbacca the Cookie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:19:39 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238170</guid> <description>I doubt that any one driver will be as dominant as Schumi in the near future (perhaps ever even).  Schumi was a great driver but also lucky to have the best car and not the strongest of set of rivals on track.  Had Senna lived past &#039;94 things might have been different today.  Same hypothesis goes for Prost and Hakkinen being a few years younger by the time Schumi started racing...  But these are all moot points now :)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt that any one driver will be as dominant as Schumi in the near future (perhaps ever even).  Schumi was a great driver but also lucky to have the best car and not the strongest of set of rivals on track.  Had Senna lived past &#8216;94 things might have been different today.  Same hypothesis goes for Prost and Hakkinen being a few years younger by the time Schumi started racing&#8230;  But these are all moot points now <img
src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Journeyer</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238165</link> <dc:creator>Journeyer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:06:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238165</guid> <description>Perhaps Keith can do a Newey vs. Schumacher graph?  You do bring up a good point that Newey and Schumacher were battling for the title during most years (1994-2003).  Only when Alonso came did he break Newey&#039;s challenge to Schumi.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Keith can do a Newey vs. Schumacher graph?  You do bring up a good point that Newey and Schumacher were battling for the title during most years (1994-2003).  Only when Alonso came did he break Newey&#8217;s challenge to Schumi.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Woffin</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238156</link> <dc:creator>Woffin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:14:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238156</guid> <description>Something tells me I dont think you&#039;ll need to do one of these graphs again for a while :P</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something tells me I dont think you&#8217;ll need to do one of these graphs again for a while <img
src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: K</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238114</link> <dc:creator>K</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:55:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238114</guid> <description>I dispute claims of a power vacuum. Schumacher&#039;s biggest rival was not a driver but a designer: Adrian Newy.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dispute claims of a power vacuum. Schumacher&#8217;s biggest rival was not a driver but a designer: Adrian Newy.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith Collantine</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238083</link> <dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:10:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238083</guid> <description>Thanks for the tip Anirudh!Post here: &lt;a href=&quot;/2009/02/28/force-india-vjm02-revealed-early-pictures-2009-f1-cars/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Force India VJM02 revealed early - pictures (2009 F1 cars)&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tip Anirudh!</p><p>Post here: <a
href="/2009/02/28/force-india-vjm02-revealed-early-pictures-2009-f1-cars/" rel="nofollow">Force India VJM02 revealed early &#8211; pictures (2009 F1 cars)</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: anirudh</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238081</link> <dc:creator>anirudh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:51:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238081</guid> <description>wow, there are self proclaimed winners, they got the trophy for the proof :-D</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, there are self proclaimed winners, they got the trophy for the proof <img
src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: anirudh</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238077</link> <dc:creator>anirudh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:44:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238077</guid> <description>Heyyyyy the VJM02 pic are outhttp://club.forceindiaf1.com/forceindiaf1/gallery/view_gallery.one?pid=60524709its same as the one on the calender</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heyyyyy the VJM02 pic are out</p><p><a
href="http://club.forceindiaf1.com/forceindiaf1/gallery/view_gallery.one?pid=60524709" rel="nofollow">http://club.forceindiaf1.com/forceindiaf1/gallery/view_gallery.one?pid=60524709</a></p><p>its same as the one on the calender</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: anirudh</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/02/28/f1%e2%80%99s-greatest-winners-f1-in-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-238074</link> <dc:creator>anirudh</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 08:38:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18384#comment-238074</guid> <description>the new force india livery is Orange and Brown !!!!check out their new site theme(burgundy is replaced by orange) !!!!!!!!!!!!http://www.forceindiaf1.com/default.aspxSorry for going off topoc :-)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the new force india livery is Orange and Brown !!!!</p><p>check out their new site theme(burgundy is replaced by orange) !!!!!!!!!!!!</p><p><a
href="http://www.forceindiaf1.com/default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.forceindiaf1.com/default.aspx</a></p><p>Sorry for going off topoc <img
src='http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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