What will be in FOTA?s ??future of F1? plan? (Update: announcement in full)

Posted on | Author Keith Collantine

The Formula One Teams Association
The Formula One Teams Association

The F1 teams’ association is holding a press conference in Geneva today to reveal its plans for the future of F1.

We?ve had a few glimpses of what they?ve got planned ?ǣ some good, some bad. Here?s what we know and what we expect from today?s announcement.

Update: See below for the announcement in full.

What will be announced

Several details about the announcement have leaked out already:

Changes to F1 points

F1?s points system has been widely criticised for giving too little incentive for drivers to push to win races. In 2003 the number of points scored for finishing second was increased from six to eight, while the winner?s points remained fixed at ten: halving the gap between the two positions.

There is a popular consensus among F1 fans that the sport should increase the number of points for a win to 12. But I think there?s a good chance FOTA will take it even further and mimic championships like Moto GP and Indy Car where points are extended far down the finishing order to reward most or all finishers.

I doubt they?ll offer support for Bernie Ecclestone?s unpopular medal system, unless it’s to win concessions in more important areas, such as teams? income.

Mandatory pit stops

In October I called this one of the four bad ideas F1 must avoid. Disappointingly, FOTA looks likely to push for it. This is a mistake.

F1 already has de facto mandatory pit stops because drivers are required to use two different compounds during Grands Prix (except in wet races).

Forcing drivers to make pit stops is artificial and unnecessary and only gives them an incentive to not risk real overtaking on the track. FOTA should take note of how mandatory pit stops spoil racing in DTM and A1 Grand Prix and steer clear of this pointless concept.

Read more: Four mistakes F1 must avoid

Revised qualifying format

The over-complicated qualifying scheme proposed by FOTA last year was a mess. We have had years of meddling with the qualifying system that has finally produced a system most people are happy with, apart from the irritation of ??race fuel qualifying? which will be gone in 2010.

A poll on this site showed that most fans either want the present system to remain, or a return to the far simpler pre-2003 system of each driver getting 12 laps in an open one-hour session to do a time. I see no need for yet another variation on qualifying beyond these two popular options.

Read more: Why is FOTA worrying about qualifying when F1 faces far greater problems?

Increased availability of team data for fans

This can only be a good thing. The more transparent F1 is, the better. They have already made steps towards this by ensuring that all teams (including McLaren and Ferrari) allow their pit-to-car communications to be broadcast on television in 2009.

What we can expect

FOTA will clash head-on with Bernie Ecclestone over revenues
FOTA will clash head-on with Bernie Ecclestone over revenues

These points seem likely to be a significant part of the announcement.

Distribution of revenue

Many of the team bosses have already said F1 teams should get more money from Bernie Ecclestone. At the Geneva Motor Show yesterday Renault threatened to leave F1 if the distribution of income is not revised.

Eccletone vehemently opposes an increase in revenue for the teams. It seems the teams’ best tactic is to push for far more than the 50% revenue share they receive at the moment, in an effort to strike a compromise with Ecclestone that’s closer to what they believe they are entitled to. Luca di Montezemolo has mentioned a figure of 80% in the past, and many sports return far more than that to their competitors.

Given how much fo the sport’s revenues flow to Ecclestone I agree the teams deserve a better share (and the circuits deserve a break too). But this could be the most explosive part of their proposal. It’s not difficult to imagine Ecclestone flatly refusing any increase.

Then we have a situation where several teams may leave, others are persuaded to stay, and some may even try to set up a rival championship as happened with Indy Car racing in the 1990s with disastrous consequences.

They also have to square the demands of some teams for reduced budgets (Flavio Briatore wants a 60% reduction by 2012) with the need to keep F1 as a technological pinnacle (a point regularly made by Ron Dennis).

The twin issue of raising revenues and cutting costs will put FOTA’s unity under severe pressure.

Read more: FOTA wants more money for F1 teams – it should get some for circuits too

Environmental technology

Many of the teams are unhappy with the costly introduction of KERS this year and want to switch to a standard system in 2010. This will put them into direct conflict with Max Mosley.

Many of the car manufacturers may wish to see other environmental technologies being adopted, such as bioethanol fuel. The words of Richard Branson, who turned down a chance to buy the Honda F1 team saying Formula 1’s environmental credentials were insufficient, will be ringing in their ears.

Fans and media

FOTA’s press announcement declared it would make the sport, “compellingly attractive for spectators, TV viewers and internet consumers alike for years to come.”

There are many ways this might be achieved: ensuring international viewers have access to internet broadcasts, high definition F1 coverage, allowing local and non-traditional media into Grands Prix weekends, giving fans greater access to drivers and teams at events, increasing the number of races on the calendar and restoring the French, Canadian and American races…

F1’s marketing efforts are woeful to the point of non-existent. FOTA can and must make giant strides in this area.

Greater representation for the teams

According to Dieter Rencken on Autosport (subscription required):

FOTA will insist upon representation on the board of Delta Topco, the company directly responsible for Formula One Management’s operations via the sort of byzantine structures typical of Ecclestone and CVC Partners, the latter being the vulture fund which controls approximately 60% of the lease on F1’s commercial rights. Demands for a greater say on the World Motor Sport Council ?ǣ well up from the present single voice vested in Ferrari ?ǣ cannot be excluded, either.

In short, the teams want more power. If Mosley chooses to oppose that, the teams will surely try to exert what influence they can in the forthcoming FIA presidential election.

What else?

According to the F1 teams’ association:

These FOTA proposals are aimed at increasing the stability, sustainability, substance and spectacle of the sport, and have been informed by the findings of a FOTA-commissioned survey of Formula One audiences across 17 countries. These findings will also be unveiled tomorrow.

I haven’t seen one of these surveys, and I’d be interested to hear from anyone who has, although there have been many such surveys floating around recently.

Whatever surprises FOTA have in store for us today, we’ll keep a close eye on them here.

What are you hoping for and expecting to see in the announcement? And how will Ecclestone and Mosley react to it? Leave a comment below.

Read more: Are FOTA a force for good in Formula 1?

Update: FOTA’s announcement in full

Here’s is the full text of the announcement from the teams:

Formula One Teams Association (FOTA) reveals initial plans and framework for the future of Formula One at landmark press conference

GENEVA, 5 MARCH 2009: The Formula One Teams Association (FOTA) today outlined its roadmap for Formula One at a press conference at which senior management figures from all 10 current Formula One teams shared the stage together.

Setting out its proposed agenda for the evolution of the sport, FOTA unveiled a dynamic package of unanimously agreed proposals which, pending the approval of the FIA, will take effect in 2009 and/or 2010.

These proposals are aimed at increasing the stability, sustainability, substance and show of Formula One, and have all been developed as a result of rigorous interrogation of a FOTA global audience survey carried out in 17 countries earlier this year. The study canvassed views of existing fans but also, for the first time, drew on insights from a cross-section of general and infrequent followers of the sport, in line with FOTA’s stated ambition to broaden as well as to deepen the appeal of Formula One.

The proposals can be classified under three headings – technical, sporting and commercial – in line with the three working groups inaugurated when FOTA was formed in September 2008. These proposals will ensure the retention of Formula One’s unique and essential sporting ‘DNA’, improve the show for all audiences, reduce costs, and increase the value proposition to the major stakeholders.

Luca di Montezemolo, Chairman of FOTA, said: “This is an unprecedented moment in Formula One history. Above all else, for the first time the teams are unified and steadfast – with a clear, collective vision. Thanks to this unity, all the teams have already managed to make a significant reduction to their costs for 2009. And, while we will continue to compete vigorously on track, we all share one common goal: to work together to improve Formula One by ensuring its stability, sustainability, substance and show for the benefit of our most important stakeholder, namely the consumer. It is with this mindset that we now intend to work hard, with our partners at the FIA and FOM, our shared goal being to optimise the future of Formula One.”

KEY PROPOSALS

Technical

2009:

– More than 100% increase in mileage per engine (eight engines per driver per season)

– Reduction in wind tunnel and CFD (computational fluid dynamics) usage

– Engine available at ??8 million per team per season

2010:

– Engine available at ??5 million per team per season

– Gearbox available at ??1.5 million per team per season

– Standardised KERS (put out to tender, with a target price of ??1-2 million per team per season)

– Target a further 50% reduction of the 2009 aerodynamic development spend

– Specified number of chassis, bodywork and aerodynamic development iterations (homologations) during the season

– Prohibition of a wide range of exotic, metallic and composite materials

– Standardised telemetry and radio systems

Sporting

2009:

– Testing reduction (50%)

– New points-scoring system (12-9-7-5-4-3-2-1), to give greater differentiation/reward to grand prix winners

– Race starting fuel loads, tyre specifications and refuelling data to be made public

2010:

– Commitment to recommend new qualifying format

– Radical new points-scoring opportunities (eg, one constructors’ championship point to be awarded for the fastest race pit stop)

– Further testing reductions (four four-day single-car pre-season tests plus one single-car pre-season shakedown)

– Reduction of grand prix duration (250km or a maximum of one hour 40 minutes) pending the approval of the commercial rights holder

Commercial

2009:

– Increased data provision for media

– Explore means by which the presentation of Formula One action can be more informatively and dynamically presented, common to other sports such as tennis and cricket, to dramatically improve engagement with the public

– Nominated senior team spokesman available for TV during grand prix

– Commitment to enhance consumer experience via team and FOTA websites

– Mandatory driver autograph sessions during grand prix weekends

2010:

– Commitment to enhance consumer experience via TV coverage

KEY DEMOGRAPHICS OF GLOBAL AUDIENCE SURVEY

– 17 countries surveyed

– First ever poll of Formula One devotees alongside non-Formula One devotees (ie, marginal and/or low interest fans)

– Responses were weighted according to the size of viewing market in each country (to avoid small markets skewing the results)

– Results were segmented by interest level in Formula One, demographic profiles (age and gender), country and region

– Total audience is comprised of:

– Regular fans (25% by volume, predominantly male, cross section of ages)

– Moderate fans (44% by volume, female and male, cross section of ages)

– Infrequent fans (31% by volume, unlikely to watch grands prix, predominantly female, cross section of ages)

KEY FINDINGS OF GLOBAL AUDIENCE SURVEY

1. F1 isn’t broken, so beware ‘over-fixing’ it

The current race format is not viewed as fundamentally broken (across all levels of Formula One interest) and therefore doesn’t require radical alteration. There is a strong desire for Formula One to remain meritocratic, while consumer interest is driven most by appreciation of driver skill, overtaking and technology.

Implication: there is no evidence to suggest that grand prix formats need ‘tricking up’ via, for example, handicapping, sprint races, reversed grids or one-on-one pursuit races. Formula One audiences appreciate the traditional gladiatorial, high-tech nature of the sport and would not respond favourably to a perceived ‘dumbing down’ of the current format.

2. F1 needs to be more consumer-friendly

An individual’s view or understanding of Formula One is framed almost entirely by their local broadcaster. Unlike most global sports, the vast majority of ‘consumption’ of Formula One is via race-day TV coverage, supplemented in part by traditional, non-specialist newspaper coverage. Formula One fans are also mature consumers of new media channels (eg, on-line, mobile) and other touch points (eg, gaming, merchandise).

The global nature of Formula One, although an attractive characteristic in itself, impedes the uniformity of race schedules, and often results in consumption of a race being limited to locally broadcast TV highlights programmes. Only devotees (25% of the total potential viewing audience) are likely to watch a race live if it occurs outside peak viewing times.

Implication: significant opportunities exist to build audience via other channels such as internet and mobile.

3. Major changes to qualifying format are not urgent

When asked to consider alternative qualifying formats, all fan types expressed a modest preference for a meritocratically determined starting grid. There was some degree of interest in allowing luck to play a part in shaping the starting order, but the general sentiment was that the fastest driver should always start from pole.

Implication: there may be justification for minor modifications to the current qualifying format, following further trials; however, a major change to the format will not result in a significant increase in audience.

4. Revisions to the points-scoring system

As with qualifying, all audiences want a meritocratic points-scoring system. This means that they want winning grands prix to count for more than it does currently. There is an indication that all audiences would like to see a greater points reward for winning grands prix.

Implication: a minor adjustment to the existing points system is justified

5. Evolution of pit stops and refuelling

All audiences view pit stops as integral to their enjoyment of grand prix coverage; however, they rank the most important and compelling aspect of pit stops as tyre changing rather than refuelling. Race strategies were not highly ranked as a determinant of interest in Formula One.

Implication: audiences are unlikely to diminish if refuelling is discontinued. Tyre changing is an important driver of audience interest (in pit stops) and should not be further automated.

56 comments on “What will be in FOTA?s ??future of F1? plan? (Update: announcement in full)”

  1. Can someone explain to me the chain of command, or the different sides there are in F1. In NASCAR, you have the racing organization the teams, two parties that own the tracks (one the France family that own NASCAR)and IMS owned by Tony George. F1 seems complex as anything. The FIA? FOTA? Mosely? Eccelstone? F1 itself? How does it all fit together?

    1. FIA, responsible for organizing, ruling and scrutineering of all motor sports in the world. F1 is just another topic, albeit it’s (said to be) the pinnacle of all.

      FOM (which means Bernie), have exclusive mechandising rights in F1. TV show, track selection, revenue sharing are all of FOM’s responsibility. A Concord Agreement signed by and between teams and FOM in order to organize a viable and “profitable” F1 calender for both parties (Mind you, fans are the third party).

      FOTA is an organization consisting of current teams in F1. It has recently established in order to co-operate with FIA in terms of creating a sustainable F1 amid the current economic crisis. United teams under FOTA umbrella are advising, discussing and thus shaping F1 based on the survival of F1 teams and increasing the spectacle of F1 show. FOTA is as strong as the weekness of bonds between teams. Nothing more. When titans begin to clash, it will disappear.

      F1 = Formula 1 means only the rule. The rules (the formula) which should be followed while making and racing cars.

      Fans, we pay for those guys to decide what is good for us.

  2. Mosley wants power, Bernie wants money, and FOTA (the teams) want their fair share of both. All have their own views of what F1 should be, I hope the teams win out on all topics.

  3. a points system similar to american racing is only logical, imo.

    do we want to see an entire race on 1 set of tires? not mandated, as a few years ago, but normal. the 2 compound mandate is silly, as well – as long as there are 2 compounds, let the teams choose freely.

    qualifying should be the nice, simple 12 or so laps in 1 hour, maybe an hour and a half. after, pour in your race fuel and straight into parc firme.

    if motorsports wants to make progress in the development of environmental issues, the best way to do this is limiting the fuel supply, like group c did many years ago. forcing the efficiency issue will drive development of KERS and soon TERS, tech that will have an impact on real cars. currently in f1, KERS is a power booster, where lm cars can use it as either a booster or a fuel economizer. as a safety bonus, this could slow the cars every year – for free.

    it’s clear that the teams need a larger cut of the pie, as well as more control over the sport.

    from many years ago, i think it was frank williams, i could be wrong:
    “we don’t know what bernie pays us until the check (cheque) arrives.”

  4. “There is a popular consensus among F1 fans that the sport should increase the number of points for a win to 12. But I think there’s a good chance FOTA will take it even further and mimic championships like Moto GP and Indy Car where points are extended far down the finishing order to reward most or all finishers.”

    No. No, no, no, no. Just no.

    Remember how much people can scrap for the last points paying positions. We don’t have as many cars on the grid, so I beg of them not to start rewarding half the grid for just making it to the finishing line by default.

    Whereas scoring points is the main thing, getting points handed out is just a cop-out in a sport that has long rewarded top positions, fought hard for. It may work well for other categories, that doesn’t mean F1 should take heed. I’ve said it before, there’s only so much bastardisation F1 can take before it stops becoming F1.

  5. “allowing local and non-traditional media into Grands Prix weekends…..”

    Keith, you’ve just said a mouthful with that sentence!!! Allowing local media to cover a Grand Prix is one of the key methods to grow local interest and increase attendance, esp. when it comes to new events in new markets. There were many other factors invovled, but I know one of the key sticking points between Bernie and Tony George in 2007 WERE the restrictions placed on local media who wanted to cover the GP. Surely FOM can come up with a way for local media to get good stories without harming all their trademarks and contracts…

    I would also hope that among the many other important issues, FOTA dose push for a return of the three Grands Prix mentioned above. As for qualifying, I don’t think they should mess with the current system, unless it was to return to the one-hour block of time idea.

  6. The main drawback with the 12 laps in one hour is that nothing happens in the first 30 minutes

    1. True, but that meant that most drivers did their 12 laps in the latter half of the session. All the more excitement.

      The only drawback then, was that local TV directors couldn’t always capture the top drivers’ laps, but with TV production now in one hand, IIRC, that shouldn’t be too much of a problem.

  7. Manatcna, that is the excuse they used in the first place to change the quali format. Umm, how hard would it be to rule that 3 laps (out lap, hot lap, in lap)have to be run every 15 minutes? Adds up to 12 laps. Lots of action for an hour. Four chances at pole. Low fuel. Too simple for the pointy heads at the FIA?

  8. Good luck to FOTA and their push for more power. I like the points being extended all the way down the finishers, that way no team can get zero by the end of the year (and so be counted in when the money is shared out?).
    And yes to more publicity and promotion by Bernie and FOM – at the moment its all left to the teams to do, and now they don’t have the spare cash, whereas FOM does!

  9. No to the mandatory pit stops, especially if they ban refuelling.

    1. I don’t get that either. Why ban refuelling but then instate mandatory pit-stops? They would be pitting for tyres anyway, wouldn’t they.

      Just like back in ’93. The cars tear into the pitlane, aim at the pit crew (who are all standing there in shorts, t-shirts and sun glasses) have a 4 second tyre-change, and back out again for the rest of the race. Thats what it should be like.

      I still can’t see why all the teams don’t just stick up 2 fingers to FOM and the FIA, and go off to form their own championship with their own rules and access to all the power and money. If it’s what they want so, so badly, why don’t they just do it?

  10. I am completely against mandatory pit stops as it destroys the flow and tactics of the race amongst other things.

    I want FOTA to push Bernie into offering a more free all-round exclusive and unrivalled web content and features on F1.com for fans to watch and follow the race like several other series including A1GP, IndyCar, Nascar (e.g. dashboard, live streaming, etc) etc.

    FOTA must strongly encourage the teams to increase their accessibility so as to give fans better insight into the complexity and running’s of a F1 team.

    The green agenda needs to be serious and coordinated to be meaningful and sustainable and not superficial and insulting like the greenwash tyre stripe fiasco. I think biofuels sounds nice but more importantly this has already been proven to be a nonsense as it causes more environmental damage and destruction to just grow the crops to produce the fuel.

    FOTA need to develop a website to keep fans more fully informed and give fans an opportunity to contribute their ideas and suggestions.

  11. I am in favour of changing the points system to give a bigger incentive to win races, as long as we don’t get medals.

    I fear that gimmicks such as mandatory pit stops may be introduced, but I think they should stick to the traditional race format.

    The changes to qualifying should be to scrap race fuel so we know who is the outright fastest, or go back to the old 1 hour system which worked fine for years. If they decided to limit the total laps in that hour they should say X laps should be completed be completed in each 15-20min period or they lose them, however personally I don’t see the problem with having 1 hour no lap number restriction qualifying to find the fastest driver. On most weekends drivers would limit their laps anyway to save tyres and the engine but some times they will have to be out on the track for quite a while to get a time in if they had setup problems or like at the Italian GP last year when it rained so most drivers stayed out all the time due to the conditions.

    The changes they should make to “improve the show”, as they would probably call it, should be to make more information available to fans and try to utilise modern technology like digital TV and the internet better. I have never attended a Grand Prix but from what I have read it seems Nascar beats F1 hands down in catering for race goers, so that should be looked at also.

    The distribution of revenue should be changed to not benefit the teams more, and also to benefit the circuits more.

    As for environmental technology I like the ideas I have read in some other articles on this site of limiting the energy available to teams so they can choose the most efficient fuel and power systems themselves, as this would use F1’s ability for technical innovation and development the best.

    Other changes I would like to see would be to bring back the US and Canadian GPs, while making sure classic GPs such as Spa are also safe guarded. With the introduction of the in season testing ban I would have thought it should be possible to increase the number of races in season.
    I would also like to see drivers competing in other series aswell.

    1. ” I have never attended a Grand Prix but from what I have read it seems Nascar beats F1 hands down in catering for race goers, so that should be looked at also.”

      I attended the British GP at Silverstone in 2007 thanks to my Dad winning some tickets etc through Abbey (title sponsor). We had great grandstand seats opposite the pit garages (Red Bull I think – but can’t remember for sure). Thing is, I could just about follow who’d come 1st, 2nd and 3rd, but had no idea further down the field until we left our seats and were walking back to the car. There was no big screen that we could see and the noise of the engines drowned out the commentary over the PA so that was of no use either…

      Yes you could hire one of Bernie’s portable TV’s for the day but they were stupidly expensive. FOTA should state that every grandstand seat at a GP should have view of at least 1 big screen on which to follow the action…

      (FOTA should also do some work on their website – guys I’m available at a reasonable rates..!!)

  12. FOTA’s roadmap is available on the McLaren website:

    http://www.mclaren.com/latestnews/mclaren-news.php?article=245

    1. Thanks for posting that Paul 8-)

  13. Monty Brown
    5th March 2009, 11:48

    Paul’s just beat me to it, gr8 idea for the new points system at least it isn’t medals. I was suprised that points wern’t awareded down to 10th position.

    I wonder if the new points system will be transfered to other FIA events like WRC. Although saying that the current system is fairer to other guys trying to catch Loeb, he’d win it regardless.

    Nice idea for the future for constructors to get bonus points for things like fastest pit-stop. I still think we should have a point for pole and fastest lap. Perhaps that’ll happen.

  14. Fastest.Bloody.Pitstop?

    Stupid stupid stupid.

  15. We have a perfect proverb well suited for this situation. We say “A mountain gave birth to a mouse.”

  16. Point for fastest pit stop! No!!!!
    How can they state this and have:
    F1 does not need “tricking up”.
    and,
    “Formula One audiences appreciate the traditional gladiatorial, high-tech nature of the sport and would not respond favourably to a perceived ‘dumbing down’ of the current format.”

    1. Well, at least the pit stop thing is just for the constructors championship.

    2. They could give a point for the best looking team girl or the ugliest team owner

  17. Jonesracing82
    5th March 2009, 13:05

    they are trying to overdo it with the “spice up the show” buisness, and have been fior many years, just find a simple format we all understand and is cost effective and stick to it.
    imo =
    quali = keep as is but get rid of q3 fuel or 12 lap/1 hour format, either change will cost nothing!
    races = get rid of refueling (already doing this), as was said b4, have 2 compounds and let the teams use both or one of them as they see fit! once again, this change costs nothing as they still have the same # sets of tyres.
    pts change i agree with.
    basically thiuer “findings” from the “survey” are correct as i see them so hopefully the FOTA and FIA can get together and take a sensible pill each and work something out along the lines of these findings

  18. Sgt.Basecamper
    5th March 2009, 13:08

    I can’t even watch F1 on TV here in Sweden, so they could start by actually making the sport available to the worldwide audience…

  19. Initial thoughts on reading the statement are that I broadly agree with the proposals except for a couple of points that stand out.
    Reducing the Grand Prix length is a big no no in my book, there is nothing wrong with the current duration.
    Points for quickest pit stop is ‘tricking up’ I have reguarly heard people call for points for pole or fastest lap but never points for pit stops, why did they decide to suggest that stupid idea and not the others, which while I may not agree with they have a much better arguement for.

    1. totally agree with that!

    2. I agree with that too – dont have a problem with the length of races and im not sure where the point for fastest pit stop idea even came from – pole and fastest lap i could understand but fastest pit stop????

    3. I can actually see a valid reason to go for “point for fastest pit-stop”. It’s nothing to do with the design of the car. A team could be lagging at the back of the grid with no hopes of winning a race and only lucking into the odd point here and there, but they could work really hard to ensure that their pit-stops were the slickest and fastest on the grid and gain some points that way.

      Not saying I’m a fan of it, but I can see the reasoning that could support it.

  20. What will be in FOTA’s ‘future of F1’ plan?

    most likely to be just 1 word. Starting with “S”… and continues with “hit”

    i don’t see why FOTA could announce those great ideas you write about… Those things we all want… It will be a massive dissapointment!

  21. The idea for the new points system looks good – i never was, and am still not, in favour of the medals idea. i think consistency should be rewarded, as well as wins, the points idea seems to cover that quite nicely.

    These radical other points scoring opportunities on the other hand….points for fastest pit stop???? It means you could have a back of the grid team banging out stupidly fast pit stops every race, and not finishing anywhere near the points yet gaining 17/18 points each year more than they would have done ordinarily, putting them above a team who has worked really hard to get in the points but had only managed say 16 points over the whole year. No way is a fast pit stop equal to eighth place in a Grand Prix.

    I would be all for the reinstating of France, Canada and USA as well – some races should be guaranteed a spot on the calendar, although I know it would be very difficult to decide the criteria for earning that right. France is most definitely one of these – its not very good that the ‘pinnacle of motorsport’ doesnt even include a race from the birthplace of the sport. Britain (ideally Silverstone, although I have nothing against Donington) and Italy for being there from the start. Germany for its motorsport heritage also? Spa and Monaco also for their classic status. Plus there should be a race on all continents, given that it is a WORLD championship. Sadly next year unless things change dramatically there will be no France, possibly no Germany or Britain, and no race in North America. That is a significant chunk missing. History doesnt seem to count for much in F1 at all anymore, and I find that very sad. The disappearing classic circuits bothers me more than qualifying formats, points systems and the majority of the other changes being proposed. All those things are important, but what good are they if the races tracks are all flat clones with no character, empty grandstands, and boring to watch. Of the new tracks which have come about in recent years, the only one I would miss would be Turkey. Of those which have been around for ages, i would miss almost all of them – Hungary included! I apologise for the rant, but losing key tracks really gets me irritated – the 2009 calendar is particularly bad for it!

    They dont appear to have discussed any circuit issues though – tis a shame, its one of the things that F1 fans seem very passionate about, and generally of a similar opinion about. I’m guessing it was a topic avoided in the survey.

    1. Yes, I agree with Clare that the circuits issue is perhaps the most important of all

  22. My initial thoughts in brief – there’s a mix of good and (very) bad in here:

    Cheap engines & gearboxes, standard KERS – all good moves.

    Points: 12-9-7-5-4-3-2-1 still doesn’t put a big enough gap between winning and finishing second, but it’s an improvement.

    “Radical new points-scoring opportunities (eg, one constructors’ championship point to be awarded for the fastest race pit stop)” (for 2010) – terrible idea, utterly unnecessary, full of potential problems for the future. Just awful.

    “Reduction of grand prix duration (250km or a maximum of one hour 40 minutes) pending the approval of the commercial rights holder” – Another bad idea, see the reaction to Massa’s suggestion yesterday for why. Given that one of the key findings of the audience survey was “F1 isn’t broken, so beware ‘over-fixing’ it”, why are they proposing nonsense like this and the points for pit stops plan?

    “Commitment to enhance consumer experience via team and FOTA websites… Mandatory driver autograph sessions during grand prix weekends” – Excellent, more of this please.

    “Race strategies were not highly ranked as a determinant of interest in Formula One.” Hear, hear.

    1. I agree with everything you say except the standard KERS.

      In my opinion there should be as least as possible standard components on a F1 car. I don’t mind a customer KERS, but constructors should be able to use their own KERS. I would like to see for example the flywheel system which Williams is going to use competing with the battery KERS other teams are using. Will it be an advantage or not?

      About the points system, I would like to see the 12-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 or even the 10-6-4-3-2-1 system which is my favourite.

  23. Re: Points System

    I don’t really see the benefit in moving to 12-points-for-a-win. I think 10 makes calculating the championship fight easier.

    Why not simply return to 10,6,4,3,2,1? Why bother with 12,8,6,5,4,3,2,1?

    Incidentally, here’s an angle that appears to have escaped almost everyone, everywhere who has discussed this issue. Consider this quote “F1’s points system has been widely criticised for giving too little incentive for drivers to push to win races.” Certainly true, but the change in 2003 was introduced in response to Schumacher’s dominance where the 4-point gap allowed him to stitch up the championship with loads of races left in the season.

    I’m not saying this change is bad, but I can smell yet further changes to the proposed 12,8,6 rule in a few years if Lewis (or Kimi or whoever) renders the final third of the season redundant on a regular basis :(

    1. I can see your point about that, whatever points system they choose (I personally think the new one they have just proposed is a good one -it is like a middle ground, gives an extra point advantage for win, without a huge gap that was the reason they changed them in the first place) needs to be stuck with. You cant keep changing a points system just because of a certain outcome. Schumacher wins it early, so they made the points closer, Hamilton wins it with less wins than Massa so they want to make the gap big again. You either want to reward wins, or reward consistency (i think the new idea kind of combines both – well as best you can), they cant keep changing which they want to reward – it will begin to manipulate championships – look like it is being changed because of one driver’s results (ie Schumacher last time, Hamilton this)not to improve the sport

    2. Probably the teams all had to agree and the smaller teams want points too. If only the top 6 get points it becomes less likely for small teams to get a point. So they would vote against it.

  24. Interesting. My take is that by backing their findings with a thorough market survey, FOTA are lining up their arguments for greater leverage over the FOM and FIA in finance negotiations. They probably don’t want to break away, but by being methodical about their arguments they are taking the right first steps towards ending the Bernie era.

    In an unrelated area, engineers at MIT have discovered a solution to a big known problem in fluid dynamics that has implications for F1 engineering:

    http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2008/fluid-flow-0924.html

  25. Way off-topic, but with 12-9-7 one F. Massa would be 2008 WDC over L.C. Hamilton.

  26. well i think that in the main the proposals from FOTA are ok, but………

    My biggest problem is the shortening of race lengths.

    It’s like playing a video game on arcade instead of the better simulation full race scenario.

    I think it is totally dumbing down formula one.

    I have said in other posts that the races should last at least 2 hrs and i haven’t seen the reasoning behind FOTA’s idea of shorter races. Maybe it is for financial reasons. But that doesn’t wash. I’m betting most fans don’t want to see shorter races.

    I mean some races would end up only 1 hour long (pathetic)….

    Maybe if they were to have 2 races per sunday afternoon then it might work.

    Please please please, somebody talk sense to FOTA and stop this nonsense.

  27. If they shorten the races then they should start calling them (not quite so) grand (as they used to be) prix…

  28. This is what happens when all the teams work together? Ouch. And I thought Max and Bernie were losing it.

    Was this the ING survey or something else?

    Some of these proposals seem “out of the blue”, like shorter races. Is this to “package” 2-hour time slots? I’m a bit of a traditionalist in thinking that GPs should be significantly longer that supporting formula. If there’s no passing or excitement, then 1 hour is too much. If there’s lots of action, then make the races 250 miles, whatever.

    Why make the points more complicated? I like “The_Pope’s” idea — 10, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1. Give a point for pole if you want.

    Most of their ideas seem like crappy window-dressing, and vague at that.

  29. Awarding the fastest pit-stop sounds quite desperate, doesn’t it?
    I imagine Force India attempting 20 pit-stops in a race just to nail the award. :) (if there was no limit to the number of pit-stops)

    Anyway, how are the pit-stops measured as of now?
    I’ve always thought they were hand measured, which means the results are not only not very credible, but can also easily be subject to manipulation.
    They’d have to introduce some electronical system then.

    It’d be possible that one team specializes in doing pit-stops and scores all points during the season.

  30. I find the points system really stupid, i liked the system we had last year, and i think they should give the point to the fastest lap notthe fastest pitstop as this sounds a bit unfair, i mean it could decide a championship couldnt it?

  31. Where has the requirement to shorten the races come from? First Massa mentions it, and now its a FOTA requirement for better audiences? Do they think we (the 25% devoted fans) are getting bored with long races? Are the cars not going to have big enough fuel tanks next year? Please tell us more Luca!
    The points system does need a rethink, and I agree with Claire above, consistancy should be rewarded as much as winning (either that or scrap the Constructors Championship completely, as that is where consistency pays off).
    I read the points for ‘fastest pitstop’ given as an example, I am sure they do mean points for pole and fastest lap, but aren’t going to mention it just yet – and aren’t these also ways to increase the points difference between possible first and second placed drivers at the end of a race?
    I am not happy about compulsory pits stops either. Tyres should only be changed if they wear out or the weather conditions change. There will be no need for refueling soon, so why force a driver to stop?
    Why haven’t FOTA taken the opportunity to ask Bridgestone to make better tyres? Perhaps if the tyres could be guaranteed to last the distance, so would the racing!

  32. Striay: ” i mean it could decide a championship couldnt it?”

    – No, it couldn’t. Read again:
    “one constructors’ championship point to be awarded for the fastest race pit stop”

  33. Damon-“Awarding the fastest pit-stop sounds quite desperate, doesn’t it?
    I imagine Force India attempting 20 pit-stops in a race just to nail the award. :) (if there was no limit to the number of pit-stops)”

    What would stop someone at the end of the race from just quick pitting for the constructors point?

    For instance, Ferrari and McLaren are locked in a constructors championship battle. One of the Ferrari’s has car trouble and knows he will not be able to continue so he pits for just front tires goes around the track once. Then pulls into the garage and is awarded at least 1 point he they would have not gotten otherwise.

    Surley they would create a rule to only allow pits stops by cars that completed the full distance at a certain % of the winning drivers time (confusing!).

  34. Actually an interesting idea would be to rather than shorten races, have one round in the year where there is an endurance race – say a 4 hour race.

    A bit like the Daytona and Indy in the USA or Bathurst in Australia.

    Award double or 150% points for that race and start a whole new tradition/legend (assuming they pick the right venue for it).

  35. Cutting the length of time of a race probably cuts the costs. Less time on the track means less chance of damage, for instance. Less wear-and-tear on people and equipment. I think this is all about cost-cutting.

  36. @ Nik
    Awesome idea.
    They’ve always put a big emphasis on the Monaco GP being so different than other GP’s, that it puts drivers to the test more than other tracks.
    Therefore such a different event like a e.g. 4 hour race at, say, Le Mans (!) or an oval-track race that we talked about recently, would be fantastic in that respect as well. Apart from being quite spectacular, obviously.

    F1 needs more variability and unique events.
    We spoke about that in all the Herman Tilke discussions of recent weeks. But with just 18 or 20 cars in the field… :/

  37. Damon and Dan M have picked up on a good issue with the point for pit idea. If there aren’t a heap of complicated conditions then teams might sacrifice their 2nd driver in order to go for the extra constructors point with heaps of pit stops in the last few laps. It would be ridiculous!

    As for shortening the race length. Who has suggested that and why? If it comes from this survey then I can’t imagine any of the 25% hardcore fans wanting shorter races. Which means it must have come from the ‘floaters’. As if shortening by 20 minutes is going to attract viewers who might otherwise be watching big brother. We only get 1 race every 2 or 3 weeks. Scrap this idea please!

  38. “As if shortening by 20 minutes is going to attract viewers ”

    Yeah, I think shortening races would do the opposite. Short races mean less exposure, and therefore less interest and fewer viewers.
    Furthermore – a short event is not a ‘big event’, it loses prestige.
    A football game lasts 2 hours on tv.
    A basketball game – up to 2 hours.
    A boxing event – about 3 hours.

    On fasts tracks, like Monza, there would be only 1 hour of racing. Sounds very unexctining.

  39. I LIKE THE NEW POINTS SYSTEM, NOT SO KEEN ON THE OTHER IDEAS REALLY…….DONT MAKE THE RACES SHORTER! PLEEEEAAASE!

  40. Unexciting*

  41. Maybe the teams are afraid that the end of refuelling is going to give them problems in the race? They can’t develop their engines anymore (to make them more economical) so maybe they feel they would need to fit a fuel tank that is too big. Reducing the race might solve some engineering problems for them.

  42. I’ve read of the proposal in detail and some of the other interviews the FOTA members have given and I’ve assembled my thoughts in a new article here:

    The F1 teams’ plans: what’s good, what’s bad and what’s missing

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