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> <channel><title>Comments on: FOTA&#8217;s F1 fans survey results in full</title> <atom:link href="http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/</link> <description>F1 Fanatic - The Formula 1 Blog with F1 news, pictures, video, comment and analysis</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:29:14 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <item><title>By: wasiF1</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-327318</link> <dc:creator>wasiF1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:54:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-327318</guid> <description>Yeah,who said that?I didn&#039;t find that on the survey?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah,who said that?I didn&#8217;t find that on the survey?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: wasiF1</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-327317</link> <dc:creator>wasiF1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:53:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-327317</guid> <description>Only 8,500 F1 fans??It that all the people who think about the sports?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only 8,500 F1 fans??It that all the people who think about the sports?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Matt</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-240807</link> <dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:32:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-240807</guid> <description>Reverse grids are not only stupid but carnage waiting to happen when the slower guys at the front hit the brakes earlier than the faster guys coming from behind. Happened a few times in V8 Supercars here in Australia.Once the chaos of the race start is over, I&#039;d love for there to be a complete lap from onboard cameras without any commentary, just the sound of the car, seeing the driver working it around.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reverse grids are not only stupid but carnage waiting to happen when the slower guys at the front hit the brakes earlier than the faster guys coming from behind. Happened a few times in V8 Supercars here in Australia.</p><p>Once the chaos of the race start is over, I&#8217;d love for there to be a complete lap from onboard cameras without any commentary, just the sound of the car, seeing the driver working it around.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Gman</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239688</link> <dc:creator>Gman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:44:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239688</guid> <description>Exactly me feelings. With only 17 countries, how on Earth do they expect to get anywhere close to a good sample of opinions from a sport that is described as the &quot;World Championship&quot;? A 5-year old could make an electronic survey and distribute it to probably..or, lets say..150 or mroe countires, so no excuse for FOTA not to expand their survey demographics.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly me feelings. With only 17 countries, how on Earth do they expect to get anywhere close to a good sample of opinions from a sport that is described as the &#8220;World Championship&#8221;? A 5-year old could make an electronic survey and distribute it to probably..or, lets say..150 or mroe countires, so no excuse for FOTA not to expand their survey demographics.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: DGR-F1</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239544</link> <dc:creator>DGR-F1</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 09:04:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239544</guid> <description>Reverse grids are really only any good if you are doing two or three short races in one day - as the British Touring cars do. And even then they have had to make it a completely random reverse, from between 6th and 8th on the grid, otherwise the cleverer drivers can always position themselves to be on pole. And of course Touring Cars are using success ballast as well, so there isn&#039;t always an advantage to getting pole....
I wonder why FOTA didn&#039;t pick up on the fans wanting to see the traditional venues? Are they worried it would upset Bernie&#039;s scheming?
Also, I do agree more should be done to make the cars LOOK fast during the race, using kerbside cameras, better angles, more noise, less commentating, and a lot less &#039;Ted Kravitz&#039; style obvious questions.....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reverse grids are really only any good if you are doing two or three short races in one day &#8211; as the British Touring cars do. And even then they have had to make it a completely random reverse, from between 6th and 8th on the grid, otherwise the cleverer drivers can always position themselves to be on pole. And of course Touring Cars are using success ballast as well, so there isn&#8217;t always an advantage to getting pole&#8230;.<br
/> I wonder why FOTA didn&#8217;t pick up on the fans wanting to see the traditional venues? Are they worried it would upset Bernie&#8217;s scheming?<br
/> Also, I do agree more should be done to make the cars LOOK fast during the race, using kerbside cameras, better angles, more noise, less commentating, and a lot less &#8216;Ted Kravitz&#8217; style obvious questions&#8230;..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Lustigson</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239422</link> <dc:creator>Lustigson</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:49:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239422</guid> <description>&gt; Actually their question if more people would watch
&gt;  “much shorter” races gets a rather positive result.
&gt; A 0.3 on a -1 to 1 scale.
I believe that is due to the fact that many of us would still watch the races, regardless of whether they were shorter or not.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Actually their question if more people would watch<br
/> &gt;  “much shorter” races gets a rather positive result.<br
/> &gt; A 0.3 on a -1 to 1 scale.<br
/> I believe that is due to the fact that many of us would still watch the races, regardless of whether they were shorter or not.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andrew</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239416</link> <dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:04:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239416</guid> <description>I definitely want to see more more on-board cameras on the cars and interactive television coverage, and I wouldn&#039;t mind if the commentators shut up once in a while, and I definitely want to see more overtaking. But I do NOT want to see reverse grids. That&#039;s just stupid.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I definitely want to see more more on-board cameras on the cars and interactive television coverage, and I wouldn&#8217;t mind if the commentators shut up once in a while, and I definitely want to see more overtaking. But I do NOT want to see reverse grids. That&#8217;s just stupid.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: patrickl</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239375</link> <dc:creator>patrickl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:01:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239375</guid> <description>Who says that F1 wants to try reversed grids?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says that F1 wants to try reversed grids?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Pink Peril</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239351</link> <dc:creator>Pink Peril</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 03:48:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239351</guid> <description>Reverse grids were trialled in V8 supercars, and dropped very quickly and quietly.If someone else has tried something &amp; it failed miserably, then why doesn&#039;t F1 learn from those mistakes rather than trying to emulate them?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reverse grids were trialled in V8 supercars, and dropped very quickly and quietly.</p><p>If someone else has tried something &amp; it failed miserably, then why doesn&#8217;t F1 learn from those mistakes rather than trying to emulate them?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: zerogee</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239347</link> <dc:creator>zerogee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:20:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239347</guid> <description>It&#039;s a pretty meaningless survey. Where did they find these people? What&#039;s the spread? Did they even really delve into any of the technology stuff when talking about the coverage.I think it reinforces my view about the teams and FOM - they both think the same way because they haven&#039;t the faintest idea about who&#039;s watching.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a pretty meaningless survey. Where did they find these people? What&#8217;s the spread? Did they even really delve into any of the technology stuff when talking about the coverage.</p><p>I think it reinforces my view about the teams and FOM &#8211; they both think the same way because they haven&#8217;t the faintest idea about who&#8217;s watching.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jess</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239333</link> <dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:14:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239333</guid> <description>Sounds like the fans want the racing and coverage and interaction that NASCAR dose in there format. I agree on most of this.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the fans want the racing and coverage and interaction that NASCAR dose in there format. I agree on most of this.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Kovy</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239320</link> <dc:creator>Kovy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 22:18:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239320</guid> <description>Normally I can understand the reasoning behind a stupid idea, but I can&#039;t figure why anyone thought that shortening races could possibly be a good idea.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Normally I can understand the reasoning behind a stupid idea, but I can&#8217;t figure why anyone thought that shortening races could possibly be a good idea.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Polak</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239314</link> <dc:creator>Polak</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:47:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239314</guid> <description>Jose- I agree. Sometimes the cars look slow on TV. You can really see the speed from helicopter cameras when you watch a car hit from apex to apex.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jose- I agree. Sometimes the cars look slow on TV. You can really see the speed from helicopter cameras when you watch a car hit from apex to apex.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: patrickl</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239286</link> <dc:creator>patrickl</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 19:50:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239286</guid> <description>Sure the answers should all be close to 3, but my point is, how can two opposed answers both get a score that&#039;s positive?If someone gives a 4 or 5 for &quot;medals&quot; wouldn&#039;t they be giving a 2 or 1 for the &quot;point system&quot; and vice versa. Then if there are more votes for one system it&#039;s score should be above 3 and for the opposing answer it should be below 3.You simply shouldn&#039;t have two diametrically opposed answers both with a positive score. Either the people filling in the forms are idiots, or the scoring system used in the survey is inherently flawed (or both).</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure the answers should all be close to 3, but my point is, how can two opposed answers both get a score that&#8217;s positive?</p><p>If someone gives a 4 or 5 for &#8220;medals&#8221; wouldn&#8217;t they be giving a 2 or 1 for the &#8220;point system&#8221; and vice versa. Then if there are more votes for one system it&#8217;s score should be above 3 and for the opposing answer it should be below 3.</p><p>You simply shouldn&#8217;t have two diametrically opposed answers both with a positive score. Either the people filling in the forms are idiots, or the scoring system used in the survey is inherently flawed (or both).</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith Collantine</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239270</link> <dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:47:27 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239270</guid> <description>I think that was a separate survey conducted by F1 Racing with ING, and not part of the FOTA study. There have been a lot of surveys floating around recently!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that was a separate survey conducted by F1 Racing with ING, and not part of the FOTA study. There have been a lot of surveys floating around recently!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Keith Collantine</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239269</link> <dc:creator>Keith Collantine</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 18:46:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239269</guid> <description>Good point about the &#039;fan&#039; thing.Inevitably a balance has to be struck between courting the casual fans (because there&#039;s gold in them thar&#039; hills) and satisfying the existing, dedicated fan base.To an extent the two go hand-in-hand. For example, I think both casual and hardcore fans would be happy to see more stable rules.And happily, I think the survey shows there isn&#039;t an appetite for gimmicks like reverse grids even among the casual fans.What I am concerned about is how far they are going to go with the overtaking thing. Max Mosley has spoken in the past about creating a situation where a car following another is advantaged by being in its slipstream. Do we really want a NASCAR-like situation where the cars are constantly passing each other? I don&#039;t thin hardcore fans would, but that might appeal more to the mainstream. I&#039;d be interested to hear what people make of that idea.Another thing FOTA has come out with is changing tracks to make them more overtaking-friendly. I&#039;m concerned that doing this will just spoil the tracks and make them even more homogeneous.Change the cars so that drivers can follow each other closely, and let them do the rest. But let&#039;s not end up with 18 Bahrain Internationals on the calendar. F1 needs diversity.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point about the &#8216;fan&#8217; thing.</p><p>Inevitably a balance has to be struck between courting the casual fans (because there&#8217;s gold in them thar&#8217; hills) and satisfying the existing, dedicated fan base.</p><p>To an extent the two go hand-in-hand. For example, I think both casual and hardcore fans would be happy to see more stable rules.</p><p>And happily, I think the survey shows there isn&#8217;t an appetite for gimmicks like reverse grids even among the casual fans.</p><p>What I am concerned about is how far they are going to go with the overtaking thing. Max Mosley has spoken in the past about creating a situation where a car following another is advantaged by being in its slipstream. Do we really want a NASCAR-like situation where the cars are constantly passing each other? I don&#8217;t thin hardcore fans would, but that might appeal more to the mainstream. I&#8217;d be interested to hear what people make of that idea.</p><p>Another thing FOTA has come out with is changing tracks to make them more overtaking-friendly. I&#8217;m concerned that doing this will just spoil the tracks and make them even more homogeneous.</p><p>Change the cars so that drivers can follow each other closely, and let them do the rest. But let&#8217;s not end up with 18 Bahrain Internationals on the calendar. F1 needs diversity.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jose Arellano</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239261</link> <dc:creator>Jose Arellano</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:49:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239261</guid> <description>For the shorter races i think i agree, beacuase i have a feeling that the drivers would driver with a lot of more eager in a shorter race, than in a large one... and in countrys where you have a limited tv time coverage, you could see more apart from the race, previous and post race stuff.. and i think i would be good for newcomers so they can understand the sport better.....For qualy i think we all agree that a perfect blinding fast lap with almost no fuel is what differences a very fast driver from the others. and thats what we want to see!Theres another thing nobody has said for tv coverage. but when i watch races in speed latin america i get veeery desperate to see how low the volume of the engines is! and how the commentators are just talking in such a dull manner, that makes is veeeery boring (not for me coz im watching live timing) but for any newcomer i would be very boring,, because you only see the cars but you dont hear them and that doesnt make sense the speed... if you dont hear them they look slow... anyway, i think ANYTHING that would improve the SENSE OF SPEED the cars have, to the tv. would make a much much better spectale... (closer cameras or i dont know, what do you guys think?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the shorter races i think i agree, beacuase i have a feeling that the drivers would driver with a lot of more eager in a shorter race, than in a large one&#8230; and in countrys where you have a limited tv time coverage, you could see more apart from the race, previous and post race stuff.. and i think i would be good for newcomers so they can understand the sport better&#8230;..</p><p>For qualy i think we all agree that a perfect blinding fast lap with almost no fuel is what differences a very fast driver from the others. and thats what we want to see!</p><p>Theres another thing nobody has said for tv coverage. but when i watch races in speed latin america i get veeery desperate to see how low the volume of the engines is! and how the commentators are just talking in such a dull manner, that makes is veeeery boring (not for me coz im watching live timing) but for any newcomer i would be very boring,, because you only see the cars but you dont hear them and that doesnt make sense the speed&#8230; if you dont hear them they look slow&#8230; anyway, i think ANYTHING that would improve the SENSE OF SPEED the cars have, to the tv. would make a much much better spectale&#8230; (closer cameras or i dont know, what do you guys think?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chaz</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239255</link> <dc:creator>Chaz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:32:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239255</guid> <description>Finally, the seemingly &#039;secret&#039; survey results are released!  Thanks for publishing. I&#039;m going to enjoy reading it through closely...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, the seemingly &#8217;secret&#8217; survey results are released!  Thanks for publishing. I&#8217;m going to enjoy reading it through closely&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Striay</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239248</link> <dc:creator>Striay</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:50:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239248</guid> <description>there was a special in the f1 racing magazine on januarys edition i think about this! However thanx for the info Keith you always give us fantastic info on anything happening in the world of f1!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there was a special in the f1 racing magazine on januarys edition i think about this! However thanx for the info Keith you always give us fantastic info on anything happening in the world of f1!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Andrew White</title><link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/06/fotas-f1-fans-survey-results-in-full/comment-page-1/#comment-239244</link> <dc:creator>Andrew White</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 16:44:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/?p=18731#comment-239244</guid> <description>What struck me when looking at the detailed results was that all the questions seemed to be &#039;How much do you agree with these comments?&#039;These kinds of question lead to bias, especially when surveying people with only limited knowledge and interest in the sport.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What struck me when looking at the detailed results was that all the questions seemed to be &#8216;How much do you agree with these comments?&#8217;</p><p>These kinds of question lead to bias, especially when surveying people with only limited knowledge and interest in the sport.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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