If Brawn GP really are that fast??

The two Brawn GP cars were fastest in the final pre-2009 test session

The two Brawn GP cars were fastest in the final pre-2009 test session

??Honda made a huge blunder by selling the team over the winter. After the disastrous years of 2007 and 2008 their decision to throw all their efforts into the 2009 campaign would have been vindicated.

??Their livery won?t stay plain white for long. Plenty of people have suggested that their stunning pace in testing was achieved because they were running light in a bid to attract sponsors. But would they really waste so much of what little testing opportunity they had to post artificial lap times?

Recession or no, there?s an F1 car that looks like being a race winner hammering around with no sponsors on it. Form an orderly queue??

??Button versus Barrichello will be a fascinating battle. Button was largely the quicker of the two in 2006 and 2007, but Barrichello had the upper hand last year.

They also had some very close fought duels, such as at Fuji, but because they were going on at the back of the pack they didn?t get much attention.

??It?s terrible news for McLaren. For as long as they?ve had Mercedes engines they?ve never had to share them with another team.

Now, in the first year Mercedes are supplying other teams (Force India as well as Brawn GP), McLaren are lagging behind a team which spent two months of the off-season looking like it might not exist. Not good for the defending world champion’s team.

Do you think Brawn GP?s testing pace is genuine? Have your say in the comments.

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83 comments on If Brawn GP really are that fast??

  1. roser said on 13th March 2009, 10:49

    Alonso said that GPBrown speed is real. I use to trust his opinions.

  2. todd said on 13th March 2009, 10:57

    it’ll be interesting to see what happens in jerez, and then its only a few more days after that till the real test in melb.

  3. claus said on 13th March 2009, 11:14


    Honda just isnt able to build f1-engines :)

  4. Robert McKay said on 13th March 2009, 11:19

    Ironically, if Brawn GP really are as fast as some people are saying they might be, I think the Australian GP might not be quite as good as I’d hoped. Up until now, it was, if you believed the hype, very close between Ferrari, BMW and Toyota. If Brawn are going to come and dump on those teams from a great height the opening round may resemble the 1998 race more than anything else, when Mclaren came and womped the rest of the field.

    However, I still have my doubts that they really are out in front of the field. Hopefully Brawn will be on roughly the same level as those other 3 teams and we can have 8 potential victors at the opening round.

    If Brawn really are that good Honda will have their name back on them as soon as possible, some way, somehow. They are, after all, still financing the team to the most part.

    • Gman said on 13th March 2009, 20:08

      Indeed that may be the case Robert. But don’t you think it would be great if Brawn GP shows up and whips the rest of the field after enduring so much turmoil and uncertainty this off-season? Can’t pitch a better underdog story than that :)

  5. Hats of for Brawn. If what we have seen is reality and adding on top of that the RB superior strategic power,
    Brawn GP will just have to bring the cars over the finishline to secure a GP win or even several of the same.

  6. I think it is pretty difficult to judge race standing from testing results. I don’t think McLaren are going to be in the back of the pack because of slower testing times, and I don’t think Brawn will be at the front because of faster times. There are just too many variables in play.

    (By the way, Keith – that could be an interesting end-of-season post if you can find the necessary statistics.)

  7. SamS said on 13th March 2009, 11:39

    this has just been posted on BBC website, not good news as a Mclaren fan

  8. sainaa said on 13th March 2009, 11:50

    Hopefully testing result shows the real pace of the car. I want Button and Brawn GP to win both championships.

    Does anybody know where I can download hi-res Brawn GP 001 pictures?

  9. ajokay said on 13th March 2009, 11:54

    Video interview here with Button and Brawn on their new car and testing pace. button being very coy about the whole situation, which is unusual, as he’s normally very straight talking (remember his Benetton days?):


  10. Just thinking aloud, here, but perhaps Brawn could be the first ‘new’ team to win their first race since 1976… effectively doing what BAR allegedly set out to do with Reynard in 1999.

  11. Brown gp need a lot of money. That fantastic training is not real. Sponsor, come to Brown gp!!!!

  12. GooddayBruce said on 13th March 2009, 12:38

    I never believe the teams cannot read into each others pace. They must be paying attention to what everyone else is doing. If Brawn do any long runs then the pace must be there. You cannot do a race simulation on low fuel.

    The trouble with the BrawnGP pace is that this is as good as it will get. Sure they have been looking for a buyer for the last 2 months but the car will have been completed before then anyway. I dont imagine that they will have had much opportunity to perform any development work over the last two months though. I imagine that they will turn up at Oz with the same package as they tested this week. The other teams may have caught up by then.

    For sure, it is a mightily good effort from those guys. I wish them the best of luck.

  13. Ronman said on 13th March 2009, 12:52

    I’m quite certain that if Honda had their engines in that car they would have done much better than before, but not as good as with a Merc engine. the Ferrari mill was the one setting the pace last year, and Brawn being Ex-Ferrari, i still don’t understand why he didn’t opt for the Italian engine, since it did very well in the Torro Rosso.

    anyway i think the major contributor’s the the Brawn GP’s remarkable performance are

    1-the car has been in development longer than any other.
    2-very experienced driver line-up.
    3-a solid team from which Brawn can extract very respectable work.
    4-the urge to prove that despite the ownership debacle, they did their work and what they were intending to.
    5-reliable and proven engine.

    all in all, Brawn, F1 Dude of the Off Season, is behind everything. they guy just seems to know how to extract the best out of any given situation.

    i said it before, i will ay it again, even when Brawn bought ownership before he even named it, i put Brawn as my favorite for they year. not that they will be champs straight off, but i have a feeling they will be up there with the best. whoever the best may be.

  14. Colin said on 13th March 2009, 14:53

    If Brawn are really this quick……
    Then possibly the car and its philosophy have been in development since 2007 and may be almost fully developed, they may get the jump on the other teams at Melbourne but the others will soon catch up, once they see brawns car in full race configuration then any revolutionary ideas will be copied. I think the main question is can they keep up a winning way if thats what they get down under.

  15. What I don’t understand is why people are so convinced that BrawnGP with their dedicated and tallented staff (who developed the RA106 – he car which allowed JB to outscore everyone else in the final 3rd of 2006) and their state of the art facilities won’t be able to develop the car as the season goes on…??

    This is not a Minardi, Super Aguri or Force India type outfit here, BrawnGP is a manufacturer team in all but name…

  16. What I don’t understand is why people are so convinced that BrawnGP with their dedicated and tallented staff (who developed the RA106 – he car which allowed JB to outscore everyone else in the final 3rd of 2006) and their state of the art facilities won’t be able to develop the car as the season goes on…??

    This is not a Minardi, Super Aguri or Force India type outfit here, BrawnGP is a manufacturer team in all but name…
    Should write excellent post. Can’t wait to reading your next one!

  17. Fabio Pellim said on 13th March 2009, 18:03

    Great post followed by excellent comments! Kudos from Brasil to F1 Fanatic and everyone who shared their thought here. I really believe in a strong white label team in 2009 season, isn’t KERS a handicap for those who are using it right know? I think that it would a great post to discuss about F1F.

  18. Matt Fallon said on 13th March 2009, 18:32

    Interesting piece of news.

    Apparently even Massa thinks that Brawn Gp’s pace is ‘unreachable’


    Who would’ve predicted that would happen 2 weeks ago??? :)

  19. Chaz said on 13th March 2009, 18:33

    In my opinion another question should be asked. How long will Brawn GP continue to be supported if they have successes that put the ‘A’ team to shame…

    • Eduardo Colombi said on 14th March 2009, 0:16

      Real or not, i bet their car will be full of advertisers… What means that the results of their test gave them some credibility.

      i’m cheering for them, and as rubens is my compatriot i hope he can get back to the top, but this time not just supporting his teammate.

      It is great to see Ferrari and McLaren worryed not just with eachother but with the one week old team.

      Outstanding work Ross Brawn, congrats.

  20. John R said on 13th March 2009, 19:02

    @ MF, Pink Peril, Loki and Colin: You guys are right on the money. Button does have talent but for one reason or another things just haven’t happened for him. Things have happened for Hamilton which is great because Hamilton IS a very talented driver and it’s great to see him doing well. Hopefully Button’s work will come into fruition also!!

    @ S Hughes:……..sad

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