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43 comments on F1 2009: When they last won a race

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   Robert McKay said on 19th March 2009, 17:37

   Wow, that has to play on Nick’s mind. I wonder if he has even won a race on his PS3?

   Ha ha like it :-D

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   Hounslow said on 19th March 2009, 17:41

   Nakajima . . . reverse grid F3 race. Does sort of make you wonder how he got into F1, doesn’t it?
   But ‘Quick’ Nick; ten years!

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     diseased rat said on 19th March 2009, 21:34

     Nakajima . . . reverse grid F3 race. Does sort of make you wonder how he got into F1, doesn’t it?

     I’m pretty sure it’s because Williams get free engines from Toyota for taking him.

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   Lustigson said on 19th March 2009, 18:21

   @ Loki
   > 10 years without a race win, that’s harsh – can you even remember
   > what its like to win.
   If you think 10 years is a long time between wins, what about Roberto Moreno – 12 years between his last win in F3000 in 1988 and the next in Champ Car in 2000.
   Jos Verstappen – 15 years between his last win in F3 in 1993, and his latest successes in the 2008 Le Mans Series. But perhaps there are more examples.

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     Sasquatsch said on 20th March 2009, 11:56

     Jos Verstappen won the A1GP of South Africa in 2006. So it’s less than 13 years.

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   Fer no.65 said on 19th March 2009, 20:07

   Alex Wurz won nothing since that 1997 Le Mans win with the Porsche.

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   ajokay said on 19th March 2009, 20:48

   And of course, when Jacques Villeneuve was kicked out of F1 two thirds of the way through 2006, it had been 9 years since his last win at the Nurburgring in 1997.

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     ajokay said on 19th March 2009, 20:55

     …and checking out his Wikipedia page, has only won the 2008 1000km of Spa Le Mans Series race since that final F1 win in 1997 – 11 year gap.

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     Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 20th March 2009, 8:40

     Did Wurz not win anything in the Peugeot last year then?

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     ajokay said on 20th March 2009, 10:07

     Alex Wurz’s Wikipedia (where I always end up going for this type of thing) page says he came 5th in the 2008 24 Hours of Le Mans, and placed DNF in the 2008 1000km of Spa, both with the Peugeot team. He took part in no other races, as far as I can see.

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   Leslie said on 19th March 2009, 21:44

   I’ve long held the view that for most of the drivers who have raced in Formula 1 over the years it was the end of the road as far as winning races was concerned. Gone are the days when the answer to the question would have been ‘on the same day as the last GP in the saloon/sporstcar race or the previous weekend in the Nurburgring 1000 klms’. Perhaps we’ll see that again now that drivers are underemployed due to the testing ban………..but I doubt it because they have to spend so much time doling out teamspeak and sponsor guff to the media; what a yawn.

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   Tim said on 19th March 2009, 22:12

   I remember Nick Heidfeld’s last race win – he had a pretty dominant season of F3000 to win the title before heading into F1 with Prost.

   More impressive, however, was Nick’s previous season (his first in F3000) when he pushed Juan Pablo Montoya incredibly hard for the title. Montoya should have walked it, but didn’t – including a particularly sloppy performance at Monaco. Heidfeld took things to the very last round and would have been even closer but for a fuel infringement in qualifying at the last race.

   Soheil Ayari, now there’s a name to conjure with…

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   Jay Menon said on 20th March 2009, 1:24

   Nick’s probably been one of the unluckiest drivers on the grid. He was gutted when he didn’t get the McLaren drive after Mika, as he was held it good regard by the team after his test stint there.

   Having said that, Nick’s not World Champion material, with all due respect. He just lacks that extra spark somehow, he’s possibly too much of a nice guy. He looks like a great team player, and he’s never given much credit for it I guess.

   Mark Webber on the other hand, he’s never even consistently finished on the podium, he’s probably had 1 good season.

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     Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 20th March 2009, 8:39

     Heidfeld’s got two records of note at the moment:

     Most second places without a win (seven).

     Most consecutive finishes (28).

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   glamourBob said on 20th March 2009, 2:11

   While we’re on the subject, I’m not sure why Coulthard gets invited to the Race of Champions. He’s never been a champion of anything. Bless him.

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    theRoswellite said on 20th March 2009, 5:30

    This reminds me of the really old days when there were “non-championship” GP races, with often someone winning who didn’t usually do so. Question.

    Does anyone know if there is any agreements preventing this type of race from going on today? I’m sure there would be all hell to pay if FOTA tried to stage something….outside….the domain of our two “Sisty-Uglers”…B&M.

    They were great fun, and just about the racing. Of course that was back when an entire season might be 10 races or less.

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      Keith Collantine (@keithcollantine) said on 20th March 2009, 8:37

      No, don’t think so.

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    theRoswellite said on 20th March 2009, 5:33

    (…are any agreements..)

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    Ben said on 20th March 2009, 11:14

    The non championship races always involved locals rocking up with their F1/F2 machinery and racing, to which the Championship F1 drivers would also enter.

    What prevents it happening today is purely economics, not many people would be able to afford an F1 car for their own racing pursuits, and the cars (and rules) develop too quickly for people to be able to buy 1-2 year old cars and still be competitive.

    The old drivers (Brabham, Moss, McLaren etc) used to bring several cars to non championship races just to sell to local drivers. Thats just not possible nowadays.

    The number of circuits actually able to host F1 races are pretty slim too, gone are the days where you could lay out osme haybales on an airfield and host an F1 race. Not many countries would have multiple circuits capable of hosting F1 races to be able to make the finances of someone running an F1 outisde of the world championship viable.

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