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	<title>Comments on: Red Bull will protest Brawn GP diffuser</title>
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		<title>By: Insider</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/24/red-bull-will-protest-brawn-gp-diffuser/comment-page-4/#comment-248689</link>
		<dc:creator>Insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brawn and co will go down!

They will be removed from this year F1

I comes from the inside,
scream, laugh or cry.

15 Evening you will read and lisen the same as here

Have a nice F1 year</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brawn and co will go down!</p>
<p>They will be removed from this year F1</p>
<p>I comes from the inside,<br />
scream, laugh or cry.</p>
<p>15 Evening you will read and lisen the same as here</p>
<p>Have a nice F1 year</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/24/red-bull-will-protest-brawn-gp-diffuser/comment-page-4/#comment-243740</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They certainly have&#039;t been sitting on their hands for weeks, but it takes quite a long time to freight bits over to Melbourne, so I should imagine any changes that are ready today, won&#039;t be on a car for a fortnight or so - certainly not if they would require such an extensive redesign of complementary features such as rear wings as has been suggested earlier in this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They certainly have&#8217;t been sitting on their hands for weeks, but it takes quite a long time to freight bits over to Melbourne, so I should imagine any changes that are ready today, won&#8217;t be on a car for a fortnight or so &#8211; certainly not if they would require such an extensive redesign of complementary features such as rear wings as has been suggested earlier in this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Loki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently they&#039;re now given the all-clear....though no doubt they&#039;ll appeal...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7965056.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently they&#8217;re now given the all-clear&#8230;.though no doubt they&#8217;ll appeal&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7965056.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7965056.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bikouros</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/24/red-bull-will-protest-brawn-gp-diffuser/comment-page-4/#comment-243580</link>
		<dc:creator>Bikouros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 03:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure they will rule in whatever way benefits Ferrari the most. They prefer is Ferrari win every champion ship till the end of time. 

Go Timo Glock!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure they will rule in whatever way benefits Ferrari the most. They prefer is Ferrari win every champion ship till the end of time. </p>
<p>Go Timo Glock!</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeK</title>
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		<dc:creator>GeorgeK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all hilarious to me. Sam Michael and Ross Brawn were both on the technical committee and both know what the intent was and what was stated. Charlie Whiting examined the BrawnGP element design and pronounced it within the regulations. Toyota also seized on the opportunity, and the other teams did not.

If this goes to an appeal is there any doubt in anyone&#039;s mind that the FIA (steered by Spanky) will find in favor of Brawn, Williams and Toyota? Why you ask? Just to twist the noses of Ferrari, McLaren, and BMW for calling for Max&#039;s resignation, and in Ferrari&#039;s case for Luca&#039;s leadership of FOTA and wanting more of Bernie&#039;s money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all hilarious to me. Sam Michael and Ross Brawn were both on the technical committee and both know what the intent was and what was stated. Charlie Whiting examined the BrawnGP element design and pronounced it within the regulations. Toyota also seized on the opportunity, and the other teams did not.</p>
<p>If this goes to an appeal is there any doubt in anyone&#8217;s mind that the FIA (steered by Spanky) will find in favor of Brawn, Williams and Toyota? Why you ask? Just to twist the noses of Ferrari, McLaren, and BMW for calling for Max&#8217;s resignation, and in Ferrari&#8217;s case for Luca&#8217;s leadership of FOTA and wanting more of Bernie&#8217;s money.</p>
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		<title>By: Polak</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/03/24/red-bull-will-protest-brawn-gp-diffuser/comment-page-4/#comment-243566</link>
		<dc:creator>Polak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This part of the regulation is very misleading because it is based entirely on interpretation 

&quot;Furthermore, infinite precision can be assumed on certain dimensions provided it is clear that such an assumption is not being made in order to circumvent or subvert the intention of the relevant regulation&quot;

Like Newey said, &quot;There is no spirit of the regulations&quot; otherwise all the engineers can just read a FIA &quot;blueprint&quot; and be done with it. Or better yet, let Ferrari make all the cars and teams just set them up and race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This part of the regulation is very misleading because it is based entirely on interpretation </p>
<p>&#8220;Furthermore, infinite precision can be assumed on certain dimensions provided it is clear that such an assumption is not being made in order to circumvent or subvert the intention of the relevant regulation&#8221;</p>
<p>Like Newey said, &#8220;There is no spirit of the regulations&#8221; otherwise all the engineers can just read a FIA &#8220;blueprint&#8221; and be done with it. Or better yet, let Ferrari make all the cars and teams just set them up and race.</p>
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		<title>By: Leslie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who says one of the seven won&#039;t turn up with a copy or different interpretation of the rules at scrutineering.  

I bet they haven&#039;t been sitting around on their hands for weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says one of the seven won&#8217;t turn up with a copy or different interpretation of the rules at scrutineering.  </p>
<p>I bet they haven&#8217;t been sitting around on their hands for weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: rob ijbema</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob ijbema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith says: 
You only say that because simple cars are easier to paint 


hehe you know where i come from keith,maybe i should paint bob sleighs

anyway first 09 car is painted/posted.
thought i do the most ugly one first,then things can only get better...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith says:<br />
You only say that because simple cars are easier to paint </p>
<p>hehe you know where i come from keith,maybe i should paint bob sleighs</p>
<p>anyway first 09 car is painted/posted.<br />
thought i do the most ugly one first,then things can only get better&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clare msj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clare msj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a thought - would there be quite so much protest about it if it had been say Ferrari or Mclaren that had the Brawn style diffuser and was topping the testing as expected, rather than the Brawn - who has shocked everyone by making a humungous step forward - and therefore &#039;must&#039; have something illegal about it? 

Possibly, possibly not - it does seem like people/teams were looking for reason why the Brawn is so fast. The main focus is on Brawn, rather than the Williams and Toyota - even though they are all under scrutiny about it - but the Williams and Toyota havent been huge steps ahead in testing. If the three teams have been down the back end of testing times would there have been quite so much protest...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a thought &#8211; would there be quite so much protest about it if it had been say Ferrari or Mclaren that had the Brawn style diffuser and was topping the testing as expected, rather than the Brawn &#8211; who has shocked everyone by making a humungous step forward &#8211; and therefore &#8216;must&#8217; have something illegal about it? </p>
<p>Possibly, possibly not &#8211; it does seem like people/teams were looking for reason why the Brawn is so fast. The main focus is on Brawn, rather than the Williams and Toyota &#8211; even though they are all under scrutiny about it &#8211; but the Williams and Toyota havent been huge steps ahead in testing. If the three teams have been down the back end of testing times would there have been quite so much protest&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clare msj</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clare msj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My technical knowledge is very limited - I dont know whether or not the thing is illegal just by looking - I&#039;m lucky if i even know what to be looking at - but to me the fact the three teams chose to go the same way suggests that it is possibly not illegal, just a different interpretation of the rules - although that is based on assumption. 

Also, i read another team or two is trying to copy the design - so does that not contradict the &#039;seven teams are against it&#039; comment from Red Bull - if they were so sure it was illegal - other teams would not be copying no?

If it gives the teams with it an advantage then great - its what it is all about, building the better car then your rivals  - the fact that three of them have found something that gives them that much of an advatage should be commendable should it prove legal.

I sincerely hope all three cars are legal - it would be nice to see them all doing well this year. 

Whichever way though i wish they would sort it out - you dont want a race where six people are taken out afterwards - should they all finish and in the points, you could have the guys placed down to fourteenth then scoring points. You could, theoretically, have someone from say fifth or sixth eventually taking the win  - as if F1 needs anything else to make it look like a joke at the minute!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My technical knowledge is very limited &#8211; I dont know whether or not the thing is illegal just by looking &#8211; I&#8217;m lucky if i even know what to be looking at &#8211; but to me the fact the three teams chose to go the same way suggests that it is possibly not illegal, just a different interpretation of the rules &#8211; although that is based on assumption. </p>
<p>Also, i read another team or two is trying to copy the design &#8211; so does that not contradict the &#8216;seven teams are against it&#8217; comment from Red Bull &#8211; if they were so sure it was illegal &#8211; other teams would not be copying no?</p>
<p>If it gives the teams with it an advantage then great &#8211; its what it is all about, building the better car then your rivals  &#8211; the fact that three of them have found something that gives them that much of an advatage should be commendable should it prove legal.</p>
<p>I sincerely hope all three cars are legal &#8211; it would be nice to see them all doing well this year. </p>
<p>Whichever way though i wish they would sort it out &#8211; you dont want a race where six people are taken out afterwards &#8211; should they all finish and in the points, you could have the guys placed down to fourteenth then scoring points. You could, theoretically, have someone from say fifth or sixth eventually taking the win  &#8211; as if F1 needs anything else to make it look like a joke at the minute!</p>
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