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	<title>Comments on: F1 fan beats FOM over right to upload video from Grand Prix weekends</title>
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		<title>By: bosyber</title>
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		<dc:creator>bosyber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 09:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a very useful clarification and good to keep in mind for issues like this: law depends on the local conditions and rules too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a very useful clarification and good to keep in mind for issues like this: law depends on the local conditions and rules too.</p>
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		<title>By: bosyber</title>
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		<dc:creator>bosyber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 09:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which of course isn&#039;t true at all for anything but perhaps a movie. I can&#039;t afford to go to many F1 races, but if I could, no way I would go &quot;oh, can&#039;t go, have to watch it for free on BBC (heh) or wait for fan shots from youtube - if I go I&#039;ll know what happens and it will be spoiled.

Almost any footage of F1, or whatever motorsports, will get people that care to want to go and experience it for real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which of course isn&#8217;t true at all for anything but perhaps a movie. I can&#8217;t afford to go to many F1 races, but if I could, no way I would go &#8220;oh, can&#8217;t go, have to watch it for free on BBC (heh) or wait for fan shots from youtube &#8211; if I go I&#8217;ll know what happens and it will be spoiled.</p>
<p>Almost any footage of F1, or whatever motorsports, will get people that care to want to go and experience it for real.</p>
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		<title>By: SparkyJ23</title>
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		<dc:creator>SparkyJ23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Aug 2011 08:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is the performer getting screwed by more people seeing his performance? Is it the every view is someone who would have gone to the show idea ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is the performer getting screwed by more people seeing his performance? Is it the every view is someone who would have gone to the show idea ?</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dodd (The true Simon)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Dodd (The true Simon)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can definitely challenge that! MicroProse or whoever makes the game these days may own the copyright to the commentary, unless you used the itv commentary in which case they would own that but not FOM. It could well be that they made a mistake and thought the game footage was real footage but I doubt that very much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can definitely challenge that! MicroProse or whoever makes the game these days may own the copyright to the commentary, unless you used the itv commentary in which case they would own that but not FOM. It could well be that they made a mistake and thought the game footage was real footage but I doubt that very much!</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dodd (The true Simon)</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/04/27/f1-fan-beats-fom-over-right-to-upload-video-from-grand-prix-weekends/comment-page-1/#comment-331762</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dodd (The true Simon)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is already fine print on all tickets to F1 events that state something along those lines. I don&#039;t have a ticket to hand but I remember reading it on many tickets for the past 5 or 6 years.  It&#039;s something along the lines of no video or still photography is permitted anywhere inside the circuit. There is also something about FOM owns all media content of the event.

I&#039;ll try and dig out a ticket and post it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is already fine print on all tickets to F1 events that state something along those lines. I don&#8217;t have a ticket to hand but I remember reading it on many tickets for the past 5 or 6 years.  It&#8217;s something along the lines of no video or still photography is permitted anywhere inside the circuit. There is also something about FOM owns all media content of the event.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try and dig out a ticket and post it.</p>
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		<title>By: anirudh</title>
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		<dc:creator>anirudh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whooohoo..... The saviour has come... we are saved!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whooohoo&#8230;.. The saviour has come&#8230; we are saved!!!</p>
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		<title>By: benno</title>
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		<dc:creator>benno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article here from Wired.  Among other things explains the reasons why &#039;youtube&#039; et all take down things without even a sanity check, given a takedown notice.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/ten-years-later/#previouspost</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article here from Wired.  Among other things explains the reasons why &#8216;youtube&#8217; et all take down things without even a sanity check, given a takedown notice.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/ten-years-later/#previouspost" rel="nofollow">http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2008/10/ten-years-later/#previouspost</a></p>
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		<title>By: theRoswellite</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/04/27/f1-fan-beats-fom-over-right-to-upload-video-from-grand-prix-weekends/comment-page-2/#comment-253467</link>
		<dc:creator>theRoswellite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Copyright rules obviously protect numerous parties associated with the creation of any &quot;work&quot;, but anyone at FOM that thinks clips posted on UTube do anything but provide &quot;free&quot; general F1 promotion, needs to question their own objectivity.  In this case their position seems to be alienating F1 fans.  Is that their promotional goal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Copyright rules obviously protect numerous parties associated with the creation of any &#8220;work&#8221;, but anyone at FOM that thinks clips posted on UTube do anything but provide &#8220;free&#8221; general F1 promotion, needs to question their own objectivity.  In this case their position seems to be alienating F1 fans.  Is that their promotional goal?</p>
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		<title>By: DieBernieDIE</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/04/27/f1-fan-beats-fom-over-right-to-upload-video-from-grand-prix-weekends/comment-page-2/#comment-253329</link>
		<dc:creator>DieBernieDIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 02:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ecclestone is a useless twat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ecclestone is a useless twat.</p>
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		<title>By: Bowks</title>
		<link>http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/04/27/f1-fan-beats-fom-over-right-to-upload-video-from-grand-prix-weekends/comment-page-2/#comment-253306</link>
		<dc:creator>Bowks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see why we should be paying extra for what is free-to-air Formula 1. TV companies around the world pay their fees to Bernie and then broadcast it to our homes.
Record it. Swap it. Got any space on this site for a swap service?
Are FOM going to take all the fans to court for swapping their videos to get more money? Don&#039;t think so. They don&#039;t need more money. There is surely enough money to keep 20 teams racing per season if needed and that is what it is all about. The live action is the money spinner and it should never go to pay-per-view as the business model doesn&#039;t allow it. Imagine if you paid a multi million dollar sponsorship deal to a team to then find out that not the entire world is watching? 
Now, if there were a page I could go to and contact fellow fans to get a copy of a race that I missed.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see why we should be paying extra for what is free-to-air Formula 1. TV companies around the world pay their fees to Bernie and then broadcast it to our homes.<br />
Record it. Swap it. Got any space on this site for a swap service?<br />
Are FOM going to take all the fans to court for swapping their videos to get more money? Don&#8217;t think so. They don&#8217;t need more money. There is surely enough money to keep 20 teams racing per season if needed and that is what it is all about. The live action is the money spinner and it should never go to pay-per-view as the business model doesn&#8217;t allow it. Imagine if you paid a multi million dollar sponsorship deal to a team to then find out that not the entire world is watching?<br />
Now, if there were a page I could go to and contact fellow fans to get a copy of a race that I missed&#8230;..</p>
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