Comments on: Why F1 will be better without refuelling

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:34:25 +0000

Not sure about this refueling rule, I mean is that a serious fire hazard if all cars are heavily fuelled up?
What do the cars have which would prevent any chances of a fire explosion from a (let’s say..) first corner collison?

By: dwp

dwp — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:48:35 +0000

what now really needs to happen is a massive simplification of aero, so that the cars look (in some way) similar to the cars in the early 90’s….., the cars are still hyper sensitive and getting rid of the double-diffuser (yes no?), and the wheel covers (yes), is a good idea…

the front wing must be further simplified as well as the aero around the sidepods….

The double diffuser isn’t much more the problem than the diffuser. Either way there is a huge wake of turbulent air behind the car making overtaking hard because of loss of aero.

Regulating the diffuser will, I think, be really hard. Maybe a better approach is to make the plank thicker and thus force a change in ride height. That will diminish the effect of the diffuser and may force a different aero approach.

I don’t think the front wing is a big player in the turbulence behind a car. It would take pages of regs to control it unless it’s a spec wing.

the other issue is, the crap circuits, Tilke seems to have no idea how to build a corner with two lines into and out of it…. or to give the outside line at a fast sweep 1-2 degrees of camber to help guys stay on the outside….

but these boring street circuits have killed more than any rule IMO

Boy do I agree with this. The big problem is that countries and cities pay big bucks to bring a race to them and the money talks. For street circuts keep Monaco, too much tradition, and bin the rest. For the Tilke crap get another designer and rip out one Tilke design and see how the new boy does.

By: Steve

Steve — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:02:00 +0000

having watched F1 for many years (over 23), this is my view…

it is impossible to get a car setup perfectly for the start of the race and the end of the race, when the fuel levels will be maximimum and then, almost 0…. so, teams will need to adjust and find a balance somewhere…
the ban on refuelling is a good thing…

what now really needs to happen is a massive simplification of aero, so that the cars look (in some way) similar to the cars in the early 90′s….., the cars are still hyper sensitive and getting rid of the double-diffuser (yes no?), and the wheel covers (yes), is a good idea…

the front wing must be further simplified as well as the aero around the sidepods….

the other issue is, the crap circuits, Tilke seems to have no idea how to build a corner with two lines into and out of it…. or to give the outside line at a fast sweep 1-2 degrees of camber to help guys stay on the outside….

but these boring street circuits have killed more than any rule IMO

take care

Steve

contactable on

steven28@webmail.co.za

By: dwp

dwp — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 20:05:06 +0000

I strongly disagree with getting rid of refueling. F1 is the ultimate Team sport….

To me it is not a team sport but a test of who is the best driver. That includes not just the ability to go fast but the ability to extract the maximum from the car. There are many instances where driver skill prevailed over what would be considered superior cars.

The origin of F1 was not a team sport where pit crews made the difference. If anything the only team aspect was where team drivers were ordered to block and inhibit other drivers advance through the field.

So I say it’s not the “ultimate team sport” but the ultimate test of driver and machine. I look forward to 2010 and seeing more racing and less “strategy”

By: jim

jim — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:33:19 +0000

I strongly disagree with getting rid of refueling. F1 is the ultimate Team sport. To win, the driver must be quick, the car must be perfect, the race strategy must be right etc. Getting rid of refuling limits the strategic options and team skills, and consequently gets us just one step nearer racing the cars in a straight line to see which is quickest.

By: mertyazan

mertyazan — Thu, 07 May 2009 12:08:50 +0000

There will be pitstops for tyre change and there will be again passings during pitstops.There will be again pit stop strategies.If you don’t want any passing during pitstops ever car must pit at same lap by rules.Where are f1 going.doing so much rule change.Why they don’t create another race series and leave f1

By: kurtosis

kurtosis — Thu, 07 May 2009 04:42:19 +0000

Again, as I wrote in the article, it was up to three seconds per lap quicker than all the other cars. Races were never going to be very interesting as long as that was the case.

*Sigh*. I meant how do you know that was the sole reason for which the FIA introduced refueling?

I’m sure there were a combination of reasons, tradeoffs done, etc. You make it out to be so simple. I’m sure it was much more nuanced than that.

Apologies if I’m being a pain .

By: con

con — Wed, 06 May 2009 19:41:24 +0000

In 2010,ferrari cant make any pitlane miatakes

By: Maurice Henry

Maurice Henry — Wed, 06 May 2009 10:54:48 +0000

And now we just have the artificial pitstops for tyres. As they’ve taken this decision it’s a shame they didn’t have the balls to leave it up to the teams to decide on whether to pit or to run non stop. In some ways the FIA’s decision has given us, by default, a minimum 2-pitstop window series. I think the other point to make is that the teams are running such sofisticated simulations now that many will have a good handle on how to proceed with pitstop strategy well before they even get to the first race next year. With modelling software as sophisticated as McLaren’s tyre model I think they may have a rocketship for next year like they did in 2007, when within a couple of months of switching back to Bridgestones from Michelins they had a car on the pace.

By: steve

steve — Tue, 05 May 2009 20:33:34 +0000

I am old enough to remember how refuelling has ruined the racing. Trust Keith, he knows what a difference this will make. The whole forced pit stop thing is artificial and dull now….just an uneccessary danger.